MLB: 2011 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
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Couple Hot Stove Updates
1. Reds Trade for Mar Latos.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Latos will be a big help to the Reds. The prospects will likely pay off for the Padres.
To me it seems like an odd deal for the Reds because most people say that they are not going to retain Votto and Alonso would have been able to take over at 1st base. I think this helps make them the best team (or second best) in the NL Central.
2. Rollins resigns with Philly.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Not a bad deal for Philly. I think he will be good this season and next and will decline in year 3. The key is to keep him healthy. For the Phillies they got him pretty cheap considering what he wanted.
3. Cuddyer signs with the Rockies.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
I like Cuddyer. Can play 5 different positions. He will hit for some good power in Colorado .
4. Jason Kubel signs with the D-backs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
No real opinion. To me he is a good player that will hit for power and average.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Latos will be a big help to the Reds. The prospects will likely pay off for the Padres.
To me it seems like an odd deal for the Reds because most people say that they are not going to retain Votto and Alonso would have been able to take over at 1st base. I think this helps make them the best team (or second best) in the NL Central.
2. Rollins resigns with Philly.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Not a bad deal for Philly. I think he will be good this season and next and will decline in year 3. The key is to keep him healthy. For the Phillies they got him pretty cheap considering what he wanted.
3. Cuddyer signs with the Rockies.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
I like Cuddyer. Can play 5 different positions. He will hit for some good power in Colorado .
4. Jason Kubel signs with the D-backs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
No real opinion. To me he is a good player that will hit for power and average.
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1. Reds Trade for Mar Latos.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Latos will be a big help to the Reds. The prospects will likely pay off for the Padres.
To me it seems like an odd deal for the Reds because most people say that they are not going to retain Votto and Alonso would have been able to take over at 1st base. I think this helps make them the best team (or second best) in the NL Central.
2. Rollins resigns with Philly.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Not a bad deal for Philly. I think he will be good this season and next and will decline in year 3. The key is to keep him healthy. For the Phillies they got him pretty cheap considering what he wanted.
3. Cuddyer signs with the Rockies.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
I like Cuddyer. Can play 5 different positions. He will hit for some good power in Colorado .
4. Jason Kubel signs with the D-backs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
No real opinion. To me he is a good player that will hit for power and average.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Latos will be a big help to the Reds. The prospects will likely pay off for the Padres.
To me it seems like an odd deal for the Reds because most people say that they are not going to retain Votto and Alonso would have been able to take over at 1st base. I think this helps make them the best team (or second best) in the NL Central.
2. Rollins resigns with Philly.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Not a bad deal for Philly. I think he will be good this season and next and will decline in year 3. The key is to keep him healthy. For the Phillies they got him pretty cheap considering what he wanted.
3. Cuddyer signs with the Rockies.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
I like Cuddyer. Can play 5 different positions. He will hit for some good power in Colorado .
4. Jason Kubel signs with the D-backs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
No real opinion. To me he is a good player that will hit for power and average.
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2)Good to see Rollins stay with the Phillies. I would like to see him end his career as a Philly. Not many players stay on one team forever. Good for him and the Phillies. <--did i just say that?!
3)No real opinion here. Good player though.
4)x2 no real opinion here.
here's my dime on Yu Darvish + the other Asian imports:
Watching Darvish in the 2009 WBC pitching against Korea I was impressed but to be honest he's not a "pitcher" he's a thrower. He can get rattled i've seen it a few times as I do seldomly catch NPB games on Korean TV (here in NYC). Darvish is nasty yes, but he's more concerned with the swinging K instead of tactical pitching. Nevertheless he's young and with a solid year(or two) in the minors he'll be sick with Texas.
Norichika Aoki - The Brewers won the bid for another Niger Morgan type player. Aoki is a better hitter for sure but he isn't over the top. They're gonna miss Ryan Braun's productivity for 50 games lol
![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Tsuyoshi Wada - this lefthander is tricky. Great pitcher that i've seen in too many international tournaments not to endorse. Good signing for the Orioles. He's thrown into the fire in the AL east lol!
oh, and for the few other Mets fans here, here's something to laugh or smirk at:
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamRubinESPN/...24865478991873
Last edited by SirBLaughs; 12-22-2011 at 08:13 AM.
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oh, and for the few other Mets fans here, here's something to laugh or smirk at:
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamRubinESPN/status/149324865478991873
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamRubinESPN/status/149324865478991873
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#165
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^Good signing for St.Louis. Beltran will produce for you guys and be a steady RF/CF.
I can't believe Barry Bonds once said that Oliver Perez was the best Lefthander he has faced
Oliver Perez is a mental case. With all of the money he got from the Mets, he should pay for a therapist. Hey, it helped out Greg Maddux!
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Oliver Perez is a mental case. With all of the money he got from the Mets, he should pay for a therapist. Hey, it helped out Greg Maddux!
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Anyone else wants to be Ozzie's bartender this coming season? He's going to have to deal with Hanley, Zambrano and Reyes. I hope for his sake that they do win or else he is going to have to enter into a rehab program.
#171
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Also....WTF....no one signed Prince yet? I can't believe it is taking so long for him to get a decent offer. I would think someone would have at least offered 5 years/$130 Million by now.
#172
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How did Ozzie handle egos in Chicago?
And Logan Morrison is hilarious on Twitter. He keeps joking how he's taking Rosetta Stone for spanish lessons since he can't understand Ozzie Guillen and all the Latins we're getting. Ozzie's Twitter is a fucking huge disaster.
And Logan Morrison is hilarious on Twitter. He keeps joking how he's taking Rosetta Stone for spanish lessons since he can't understand Ozzie Guillen and all the Latins we're getting. Ozzie's Twitter is a fucking huge disaster.
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#173
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Apparently Ozzie and Zambrano have been big buddies for a while now, so maybe the whole change of scenery thing will help him.
And yeah, if the team turns out to be a disaster I think we'll be seeing a lot of meltdowns
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#174
As for the Reds trades, I was a little shocked when I first heard about them, but after looking closer I liked them. Very happy to see Volquez go, but not so happy to see Wood go, but I understand. I trust what Jocketty is doing and can't wait for baseball season!
Oh, and Jim Bowden (former Reds GM) called the Latos trade "the next Herschel Walker trade" while all the other writers were saying it was a good deal for both
He's such a little bitch...can't believe ESPN employs him
Oh, and Jim Bowden (former Reds GM) called the Latos trade "the next Herschel Walker trade" while all the other writers were saying it was a good deal for both
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Also, hoping Seth Smith will find a new team that will actually have use for him, he's a decent hitter and there's currently not any room for him in Denver. That, and I'd love to pick up one of his jerseys on sale
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#176
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^^^^
I don't think he deserves Albert money. The problem is I don't think Albert deserved Albert money. No one does. That contract is based partly on Albert's performance and his ability to sell tickets. You think that he is going to be able to put up his numbers in 6 years?
As for Prince being over-rated....I don't really agree with that either. Not counting his first partial season, he averages 38 homers a season. His RBI's are low but he is on a team with a much lower OBP and he has little protection.
What do you think his numbers would be in Colorado?
I don't think he deserves Albert money. The problem is I don't think Albert deserved Albert money. No one does. That contract is based partly on Albert's performance and his ability to sell tickets. You think that he is going to be able to put up his numbers in 6 years?
As for Prince being over-rated....I don't really agree with that either. Not counting his first partial season, he averages 38 homers a season. His RBI's are low but he is on a team with a much lower OBP and he has little protection.
What do you think his numbers would be in Colorado?
#178
Larkin elected to HOF
No surprise, but I had to post since I grew up watching him my entire life ![Woot](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/woot.gif)
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...hall-of-fame/1
EDIT: Also congrats to Ron Santo who will be inducted with him.
Also from the article:
Next few years will be insane
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...hall-of-fame/1
EDIT: Also congrats to Ron Santo who will be inducted with him.
Also from the article:
Next year Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa are on the ballot for the first time, all who have been convicted or linked to steroid/HGH use. The ballot also will include second baseman Craig Biggio, catcher Mike Piazza and pitcher Curt Schilling. The ballot will only get stronger in future years with Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas, Jeff Kent and Mike Mussina eligible in 2014; Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, John Smoltz and Gary Sheffield in 2015; and Ken Griffey Jr. and Trevor Hoffman in 2016.
Next few years will be insane
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Next year Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa are on the ballot for the first time, all who have been convicted or linked to steroid/HGH use. The ballot also will include second baseman Craig Biggio, catcher Mike Piazza and pitcher Curt Schilling. The ballot will only get stronger in future years with Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas, Jeff Kent and Mike Mussina eligible in 2014; Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, John Smoltz and Gary Sheffield in 2015; and Ken Griffey Jr. and Trevor Hoffman in 2016.
#181
Reds sign Ryan Madson for 1 year, 8.5 million. This better put Chapman in the rotation.
Madson shoulda took the 11 million per year deal from the Phils
Cordero and others probably won't get as much as they were planning now.
Madson shoulda took the 11 million per year deal from the Phils
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Not exactly a secret but the Marlins are known as a huge player for Cespedes whenever his citizenship to the DR is granted. The president was on his weekly radio appearance with Dan Le Batard last night and all but confirmed that he's confident we're getting him.
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Also, looks like Colorado is making the right moves to be a team with high expectations in the relatively weak NL West who will ultimately falter. I hope we do well though! Looks like they got new Road uniforms as well!
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#185
I guess Detroit looked at the two big money power teams in the AL East and AL West and realized they could possibly be the lone power team in the Central.
The gap between rich and poor continues to grow.
The gap between rich and poor continues to grow.
#186
And you can't help but think the Nationals really really wanted to sign him, but couldn't come up with enough cash because of the Jayson Werthless contract. So unbelievably dumb
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#187
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Yah I saw that, they removed the pinstripes. I'm glad the Rockies organization has kept their uniforms standard since their inception. Can't say that for the Padres though lol...
#188
Speaking of uniforms, the Astros are talking about a uniform makeover and possible team name change when they move to the AL (where they'll be a permanent resident of the basement for years)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201..._a20&eref=sihp
I can see them using the rainbow theme and it looking like a bastardized version of the new Marlins uniforms
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201..._a20&eref=sihp
The Astros have had several uniform styles in their history, including the shooting star jerseys and the now infamous rainbow ones. They've had their current uniforms, which include road grays and primarily home reds since 2000. They also have alternate home white and white with black pinstriped jerseys.
Crane said some past uniforms could be incorporated into a new design.
Crane said some past uniforms could be incorporated into a new design.
I can see them using the rainbow theme and it looking like a bastardized version of the new Marlins uniforms
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#189
I believe I read once that he thought Cecil was either trying to or did take some of the money he got from his rookie contract and signing bonus, but there may be more to the story.
#190
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I understand the move for this year but what happens in 2013? Trade Cabrera or Martinez? Cabrera wasn't great at 3B and is bigger albeit more fit than his last years in FL. Boras earned his money this time around. I thought Prince wasn't getting the shaft contractwise.
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Personally I think it is a really good deal if they can get Cabrera to play a serviceable 3rd base.
#192
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He was working out with Hanley. Both are converting to 3B. ![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=348318&spln=1
Hopefully just posturing
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=348318&spln=1
Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com writes that there's still a feeling that Yoenis Cespedes "really doesn't want to go to the Marlins."
Interesting. The Marlins certainly haven't been shy about their interest and believe Miami's strong Cuban community could be the best fit. It's not known why Cespedes would prefer to play elsewhere, but we have a feeling he would change his tune if the Marlins make the biggest offer. The 26-year-old outfielder recently established residency in the Dominican Republic and teams are awaiting on the OK from MLB to start the bidding. Cespedes has previously said that the Marlins, Cubs, White Sox, Orioles, Tigers, and Indians were the six teams showing the most interest in signing him. Jan. 25 - 1:50 pm et
Interesting. The Marlins certainly haven't been shy about their interest and believe Miami's strong Cuban community could be the best fit. It's not known why Cespedes would prefer to play elsewhere, but we have a feeling he would change his tune if the Marlins make the biggest offer. The 26-year-old outfielder recently established residency in the Dominican Republic and teams are awaiting on the OK from MLB to start the bidding. Cespedes has previously said that the Marlins, Cubs, White Sox, Orioles, Tigers, and Indians were the six teams showing the most interest in signing him. Jan. 25 - 1:50 pm et
#193
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^The Marlins is the best fit for him. I believe he'll sign with the fish eventually...
guys, i know it's a shameful way of promoting it but here's my new website: http://www.asiamlb.com
tracking all Asian players in MLB!
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tracking all Asian players in MLB!
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#195
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Hmmm, the Pirates seem to be willing to talk Burnett ![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...14192/34781682
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Oh PLEASE dump him!!!!!!
I just got tickets to the Yankees/Miami Marlins exhibition games April 1-2 at the new marlins stadium. May as well go see the monster that was scammed into existence by the crooked Miami gov.
Meaningless game & sad really they have to play it just to get people to come to a game....
I just got tickets to the Yankees/Miami Marlins exhibition games April 1-2 at the new marlins stadium. May as well go see the monster that was scammed into existence by the crooked Miami gov.
Meaningless game & sad really they have to play it just to get people to come to a game....
#197
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^I hate Loria. What ever happened to the scandal with the funding for the new stadium? wasn't there an SEC investigation or something?
The Reds and Marlins are the only two teams not to have a Japanese player. But you guys did carry Bong for a season. ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Jung-Keun
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^I hate Loria. What ever happened to the scandal with the funding for the new stadium? wasn't there an SEC investigation or something?
The Reds and Marlins are the only two teams not to have a Japanese player. But you guys did carry Bong for a season.![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![Blaze](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/blaze.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Jung-Keun
The Reds and Marlins are the only two teams not to have a Japanese player. But you guys did carry Bong for a season.
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![Blaze](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/blaze.gif)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong_Jung-Keun