MLB: 2011 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
12-07-2011, 03:15 PM
#85
Team Owner
Yeah Pujols over Fielder is a star thing and I don't believe his age either. But the Marlins don't do no-trade clauses so they'll eat a lot of it in a trade if anything later on. But geez a 44 year old power hitter and no HGH or roids. Not everyone has Julio Franco freak DNA.
12-07-2011, 04:16 PM
#86
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Damn...end of an era in Chicago...Buerhle goes to the Marlins.
http://tracking.si.com/2011/12/07/re...2_a4&eref=sihp
I'm going to miss the guy in a ChiSox uniform. One of the most under-rated pitchers in the game.
http://tracking.si.com/2011/12/07/re...2_a4&eref=sihp
I'm going to miss the guy in a ChiSox uniform. One of the most under-rated pitchers in the game.
12-07-2011, 07:23 PM
#88
I think Pujols stays and Fielder goes to the Cubs.
Chicago's new manager and pitching coach are former Brewers so he'll follow. There are rumors that Robin Yount might join the Cubs staff too. And they will dump Soriano even if that means eating most of his salary.
Pirates signed Erik Bedard. 1 year, $4.5M.
Chicago's new manager and pitching coach are former Brewers so he'll follow. There are rumors that Robin Yount might join the Cubs staff too. And they will dump Soriano even if that means eating most of his salary.
Pirates signed Erik Bedard. 1 year, $4.5M.
12-07-2011, 07:59 PM
#90
Banned
In the field, big guys break down quicker. The Marlins don't have a DH, so I'd be really wary of signing Fielder to a 10 year deal like he wants. Can he lose weight? Sure. Has he to this point?
12-07-2011, 08:17 PM
#91
Team Owner
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^^^
We can go back and forth on this for a while bro. I agree with what you're saying but I still feel that being a pitcher is not easy. You figure he probably throws about 3500-4000 pitches a season.
To answer your questions....I would not give anyone a 10 year deal. I would give Prince 4-5 years max. Same with Pujols. I think Miami is going to see some big short term upsides from these moves but in 3-4 years they are going to have issues keeping players. They are not a big market and I don't see them ever becoming one.
We can go back and forth on this for a while bro. I agree with what you're saying but I still feel that being a pitcher is not easy. You figure he probably throws about 3500-4000 pitches a season.
To answer your questions....I would not give anyone a 10 year deal. I would give Prince 4-5 years max. Same with Pujols. I think Miami is going to see some big short term upsides from these moves but in 3-4 years they are going to have issues keeping players. They are not a big market and I don't see them ever becoming one.
12-08-2011, 01:00 AM
#92
S E L L
^^^
We can go back and forth on this for a while bro. I agree with what you're saying but I still feel that being a pitcher is not easy. You figure he probably throws about 3500-4000 pitches a season.
To answer your questions....I would not give anyone a 10 year deal. I would give Prince 4-5 years max. Same with Pujols. I think Miami is going to see some big short term upsides from these moves but in 3-4 years they are going to have issues keeping players. They are not a big market and I don't see them ever becoming one.
We can go back and forth on this for a while bro. I agree with what you're saying but I still feel that being a pitcher is not easy. You figure he probably throws about 3500-4000 pitches a season.
To answer your questions....I would not give anyone a 10 year deal. I would give Prince 4-5 years max. Same with Pujols. I think Miami is going to see some big short term upsides from these moves but in 3-4 years they are going to have issues keeping players. They are not a big market and I don't see them ever becoming one.
Plus there new uniforms are hideous. 
12-08-2011, 09:47 AM
#101
DALLAS -- The Angels have agreed to a contract with Albert Pujols, the best free agent available this offseason and arguably the greatest player of this era, sources told MLB.com on Thursday.
The deal, according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network and Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com, is for 10 years, includes a full no-trade clause and could reach $260 million. That would rival the record-setting 10-year, $275 million contract Alex Rodriguez signed with the Yankees in December 2007.
The Angels have not commented on or confirmed the signing. They had surprisingly surfaced in reports on Wednesday linking them to Pujols -- a former Cardinal -- for the second time in 24 hours, with a baseball source confirming to MLB.com that their intentions were indeed serious.
Pujols' historic Game 3
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10/22/11: Albert Pujols goes yard three times against Rangers' pitching, tying a World Series record for home runs in one game
Tags: milestone, home run, St. Louis Cardinals, Albert Pujols, highlight reel, More From This Game, Postseason, World Series
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Pujols, a nine-time All-Star and three-time National League Most Valuable Player, weighed a 10-year offer from the Marlins earlier this week and had a counter offer to consider from the Cardinals, with whom he had spent all of his 11 Major League seasons. St. Louis' offer was for nine years and a little less than $200 million, according to a report by ESPN.com.
He turned down an offer from the Cardinals prior to Spring Training, which he had set as a deadline for negotiations, saying he would not discuss a new contract during camp or the regular season.
The first baseman, who will be 32 next month, has a career .328 average with 445 home runs. His career on-base-plus-slugging percentage is 1.037, which leads all active players, and he has led the Major Leagues in slugging and OPS three times and in runs scored five times.
Alden Gonzalez and Matthew Leach are reporters for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
The deal, according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network and Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com, is for 10 years, includes a full no-trade clause and could reach $260 million. That would rival the record-setting 10-year, $275 million contract Alex Rodriguez signed with the Yankees in December 2007.
The Angels have not commented on or confirmed the signing. They had surprisingly surfaced in reports on Wednesday linking them to Pujols -- a former Cardinal -- for the second time in 24 hours, with a baseball source confirming to MLB.com that their intentions were indeed serious.
Pujols' historic Game 3
00:02:28
10/22/11: Albert Pujols goes yard three times against Rangers' pitching, tying a World Series record for home runs in one game
Tags: milestone, home run, St. Louis Cardinals, Albert Pujols, highlight reel, More From This Game, Postseason, World Series
Related Video
Pujols' four hits
Pujols' outstanding game
Pujols' go-ahead single
Pujols, a nine-time All-Star and three-time National League Most Valuable Player, weighed a 10-year offer from the Marlins earlier this week and had a counter offer to consider from the Cardinals, with whom he had spent all of his 11 Major League seasons. St. Louis' offer was for nine years and a little less than $200 million, according to a report by ESPN.com.
He turned down an offer from the Cardinals prior to Spring Training, which he had set as a deadline for negotiations, saying he would not discuss a new contract during camp or the regular season.
The first baseman, who will be 32 next month, has a career .328 average with 445 home runs. His career on-base-plus-slugging percentage is 1.037, which leads all active players, and he has led the Major Leagues in slugging and OPS three times and in runs scored five times.
Alden Gonzalez and Matthew Leach are reporters for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
12-08-2011, 11:36 AM
#104
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Wow @ contract... 
12-08-2011, 12:29 PM
#105
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Wow
12-08-2011, 12:33 PM
#106
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
There is no denying Pujols' abilities...right now. But, in 6 years?
12-08-2011, 12:56 PM
#110
Suzuka Master
Yep, I figured he was almost a lock. Dodgers are going to have a new, wealthy owner next year who may try and one up the Marlins. Now is the time for the Halos to make their move and snatch a bigger piece of the SoCal fan base. They usually field a competitive team in the AL West and Pujols can prolong his career as a DH.
12-08-2011, 01:22 PM
#111
^^absolutely. OC and LA will always be divided, but its the people in Riverside, San Bernardino, and the outlying counties (other than San Diego) that can be grabbed by adding a star player or 2.
Hopefully the Dodgers get Magic Johnson and his group as the owners. He's put together a great group. Apparently, the Guggenheims are part of it, and they have 125 Billion in assets, so money wouldn't be much of an issue.
Hopefully the Dodgers get Magic Johnson and his group as the owners. He's put together a great group. Apparently, the Guggenheims are part of it, and they have 125 Billion in assets, so money wouldn't be much of an issue.
12-08-2011, 01:46 PM
#112
The sizzle in the Steak
@ Angels....they better win now....10 year contract!?!?!? 
12-08-2011, 02:05 PM
#113
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Pujols cost more than what the guy paid in 2004 to buy the franchise.
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
#117
My Garage
12-08-2011, 03:39 PM
#119
My Garage