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Did a search on Google and this is apparently "bowrofl"...you guys are spelling it wrong.
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The NHL could not have scripted a wackier Game 7 though.
Some of the goals were off of the weirdest bounces...like, Sharp's goal to make it 3-2 on Quick? WTF.
And then, the weird rebounds that hit Kings players in the right spots that led to 3 of their goals. Luck? Meh...not complaining. Good teams make their own luck. I am impressed with their fight...lesser teams would've gone into full fetal mode with Chicago up 2-0 and the crowd roaring like that. This is why I think LA will win the Cup.
Carter's 2-1 goal was borderline off-side and an argument could be made it was a high-stick too. But, again...whatever. Chicago managed to regain the lead but could never hold it..they need to address that. 3 times they had it.
Anyhow, where the WTFBBQ is Waldorf...? He still passed out from last night's game?
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Some of the goals were off of the weirdest bounces...like, Sharp's goal to make it 3-2 on Quick? WTF.
And then, the weird rebounds that hit Kings players in the right spots that led to 3 of their goals. Luck? Meh...not complaining. Good teams make their own luck. I am impressed with their fight...lesser teams would've gone into full fetal mode with Chicago up 2-0 and the crowd roaring like that. This is why I think LA will win the Cup.
Carter's 2-1 goal was borderline off-side and an argument could be made it was a high-stick too. But, again...whatever. Chicago managed to regain the lead but could never hold it..they need to address that. 3 times they had it.
Anyhow, where the WTFBBQ is Waldorf...? He still passed out from last night's game?
<---- Can't wait for the shenanigans between him and cabby for the Final.
And ya, that 3rd goal on Quickie Most teams would have given up after that one.
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Was away for a few days.....did I miss anything?
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Roster of Stanley Cup favourite is marked by winning deals with the Edmonton Oilers
Just an article from our local paper but I guess we'll just keep on rebuilding our team
Roster of Stanley Cup favourite is marked by winning deals with the Edmonton Oilers
Los Angeles Kings general manager Dean Lombardi must thank his lucky stars for the Edmonton Oilers.
Lomdardi didn’t get the key pieces — Drew Doughty, Anze Kopitar and Jonathan Quick — of his juggernaut Los Angeles Kings from the Edmonton Oilers, but he did get some important role players.
For example, when it was time to kill off a crucial five-on-three penalty against the Chicago Blackhawks on Sunday night, former Oilers d-man Matt Greene was on the ice, hammering away at Chicago ace Jonathan Toews in front of the net, while simultaneously blocking off a passing lane to sniper Patrick Sharp.
The 6-foot, 3-inch, 234-pound Greene, 31, is a bit player with the Kings now, but he’s still capable of coming through at a key moment in the biggest of games. He’s fierce, tough, defensively responsible and effective, so long as he’s not asked to do too much. Indeed, ever since Oilers hockey boss Kevin Lowe traded away Greene, Edmonton has been searching to find a player just like him for their third-pairing, trying out the likes of Jason Strudwick, Jim Vandermeer, Mark Fistric, Colten Teubert and Mark Fraser. None of them was close to being as effective as Greene was.
As for Stoll, at 6-feet, 1-inches and 210-pounds, he’s been a big, tough, hard-checking, faceoff-winning centre for the Kings, and a player who throws in some offence now and then. Again, since getting rid of Stoll, the Oilers have been chasing after this same kind of player but forever coming up short, bringing in the likes of Gilbert Brule, Eric Belanger and, most recently, Boyd Gordon.
In June 2008 when Lowe traded Greene, then 25, and Jarret Stoll, then 26, for 32-year-old, high-priced d-man Lubo Visnovsky, the Oilers GM traded away two young vets of the 2006 Stanley Cup run, players who would have provided leadership, size, toughness and some skill. They were real NHLers heading into the prime years of their careers. It’s easy to imagine that Greene could have been captain of the Oilers, Stoll an assistant captain.
As for Visnovsky, he played his usual brand of high event hockey here, plenty of nice moves and no shortage of high impact defensive mistakes. Many fans were dazzled by his attacking skills — and the Viz is a fine offensive hockey player — but the Oilers overpaid for him.
One other trade can be put into an even greater category of botched deal, Lombardi’s clever unloading of Patrick O’Sullivan on the Oilers, a deal that saw Edmonton send Erik Cole to Carolina and Carolina Justin Williams to L.A. Williams has been a key cog in the Kings attack ever since then, while Cole has been an effective NHLer for a few teams. O’Sullivan? It’s hard to imagine there’s been a weaker forward who got Top 6 minutes in the NHL in recent years than O’Sullivan with the Oilers in 2009-10. The Oilers also got a second round pick in this deal, which GM Steve Tambellini traded to Buffalo for Ales Kotalik.
How could any scout recommend the Oilers make such deal as trading for the ineffectual O’Sullivan? A total fiasco of a trade.
Finally there’s the Dustin Penner deal from February 2011. Penner was a huge and effective two-way winger on the Oilers, but he always left his coaches and many fans hungry for more. He has a lumbering quality on the ice which can make it look like he’s not giving his all. In the 2012 playoffs, however, Penner played a key Top 6 role on a Kings team that won the Stanley Cup.
In return for Penner, the Oilers got Colten Teubert, who lacked the skating and hockey sense to make it as an NHLer, and a first-round pick, which turned into Oscar Klefbom, a promising defensive prospect, and a third-round pick, struggling KHLer Daniil Zharkov. This deal was more of a trade-off, but due to Penner’s role in the 2012 Cup win, it was certainly a win for L.A.
The lesson in all this? Good scouting, good decisions, good results. Lombardi was keen to build a big, tough and skilled team and he did so partly at the expense of the Oilers.
Los Angeles Kings general manager Dean Lombardi must thank his lucky stars for the Edmonton Oilers.
Lomdardi didn’t get the key pieces — Drew Doughty, Anze Kopitar and Jonathan Quick — of his juggernaut Los Angeles Kings from the Edmonton Oilers, but he did get some important role players.
For example, when it was time to kill off a crucial five-on-three penalty against the Chicago Blackhawks on Sunday night, former Oilers d-man Matt Greene was on the ice, hammering away at Chicago ace Jonathan Toews in front of the net, while simultaneously blocking off a passing lane to sniper Patrick Sharp.
The 6-foot, 3-inch, 234-pound Greene, 31, is a bit player with the Kings now, but he’s still capable of coming through at a key moment in the biggest of games. He’s fierce, tough, defensively responsible and effective, so long as he’s not asked to do too much. Indeed, ever since Oilers hockey boss Kevin Lowe traded away Greene, Edmonton has been searching to find a player just like him for their third-pairing, trying out the likes of Jason Strudwick, Jim Vandermeer, Mark Fistric, Colten Teubert and Mark Fraser. None of them was close to being as effective as Greene was.
As for Stoll, at 6-feet, 1-inches and 210-pounds, he’s been a big, tough, hard-checking, faceoff-winning centre for the Kings, and a player who throws in some offence now and then. Again, since getting rid of Stoll, the Oilers have been chasing after this same kind of player but forever coming up short, bringing in the likes of Gilbert Brule, Eric Belanger and, most recently, Boyd Gordon.
In June 2008 when Lowe traded Greene, then 25, and Jarret Stoll, then 26, for 32-year-old, high-priced d-man Lubo Visnovsky, the Oilers GM traded away two young vets of the 2006 Stanley Cup run, players who would have provided leadership, size, toughness and some skill. They were real NHLers heading into the prime years of their careers. It’s easy to imagine that Greene could have been captain of the Oilers, Stoll an assistant captain.
As for Visnovsky, he played his usual brand of high event hockey here, plenty of nice moves and no shortage of high impact defensive mistakes. Many fans were dazzled by his attacking skills — and the Viz is a fine offensive hockey player — but the Oilers overpaid for him.
One other trade can be put into an even greater category of botched deal, Lombardi’s clever unloading of Patrick O’Sullivan on the Oilers, a deal that saw Edmonton send Erik Cole to Carolina and Carolina Justin Williams to L.A. Williams has been a key cog in the Kings attack ever since then, while Cole has been an effective NHLer for a few teams. O’Sullivan? It’s hard to imagine there’s been a weaker forward who got Top 6 minutes in the NHL in recent years than O’Sullivan with the Oilers in 2009-10. The Oilers also got a second round pick in this deal, which GM Steve Tambellini traded to Buffalo for Ales Kotalik.
How could any scout recommend the Oilers make such deal as trading for the ineffectual O’Sullivan? A total fiasco of a trade.
Finally there’s the Dustin Penner deal from February 2011. Penner was a huge and effective two-way winger on the Oilers, but he always left his coaches and many fans hungry for more. He has a lumbering quality on the ice which can make it look like he’s not giving his all. In the 2012 playoffs, however, Penner played a key Top 6 role on a Kings team that won the Stanley Cup.
In return for Penner, the Oilers got Colten Teubert, who lacked the skating and hockey sense to make it as an NHLer, and a first-round pick, which turned into Oscar Klefbom, a promising defensive prospect, and a third-round pick, struggling KHLer Daniil Zharkov. This deal was more of a trade-off, but due to Penner’s role in the 2012 Cup win, it was certainly a win for L.A.
The lesson in all this? Good scouting, good decisions, good results. Lombardi was keen to build a big, tough and skilled team and he did so partly at the expense of the Oilers.
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Hawks V Kings was the best Stanley Cup final in quite some time!!!!!
Gotta love the way these two teams played each other.
Back and forth, momentum swings, blow outs, come from behind wins, 2&3 game win streaks, Epic overtimes........You can't ask for anything more from the 2 best teams in the league.
...best part, they won and lost with class! No cheapshots, no goonery, thuggery, nobody sent to the hospital on a stretcher.
Just good, hard nosed hockey, played at the highest level.
Handshake line was full of sportsmanship and class.
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And no threatening people in the handshake line either!
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Hawks V Kings was the best Stanley Cup final in quite some time!!!!!
Gotta love the way these two teams played each other.
Back and forth, momentum swings, blow outs, come from behind wins, 2&3 game win streaks, Epic overtimes........You can't ask for anything more from the 2 best teams in the league.
...best part, they won and lost with class! No cheapshots, no goonery, thuggery, nobody sent to the hospital on a stretcher.
Just good, hard nosed hockey, played at the highest level.
Handshake line was full of sportsmanship and class.
Good luck in the next round and here's hoping Kreider does not...yeah, I won't go there.
And the handshake line was definitely cool to watch...nice to see Crawford and Quick mend things up too (i.e. no hard feelings during the heat of the battle from Game 6).
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They were probably thanking each other for sucking so bad. Neither were made to look bad because of the equal ineptness.
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At least dude can go back to work now that the season is over. :wink:
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Marian Gaborik, 19 Playoff goals so far.
....just a few back of Gretzky's all time record.
....just a few back of Gretzky's all time record.
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Kings had a helluva road out of the West:
San Jose
Ducks
Blackhawks
...are there any better teams than those?!?!?
San Jose
Ducks
Blackhawks
...are there any better teams than those?!?!?
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Kings had a helluva road out of the West:
San Jose
Ducks
Blackhawks
...are there any better teams than those?!?!?
San Jose
Ducks
Blackhawks
...are there any better teams than those?!?!?
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So long as LA does not get complacent (I doubt it) and have a left-down because they are facing an "easier" team, this should be Cup #2 for your team.
I just don't see how the Rangers can take 4 games against the Kings. Sure, Lundqvist may steal a game? But, steal 4 games? Eh...not happening.
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Not left standing. Nope.
So long as LA does not get complacent (I doubt it) and have a left-down because they are facing an "easier" team, this should be Cup #2 for your team.
I just don't see how the Rangers can take 4 games against the Kings. Sure, Lundqvist may steal a game? But, steal 4 games? Eh...not happening.
So long as LA does not get complacent (I doubt it) and have a left-down because they are facing an "easier" team, this should be Cup #2 for your team.
I just don't see how the Rangers can take 4 games against the Kings. Sure, Lundqvist may steal a game? But, steal 4 games? Eh...not happening.
He was really something else in the WC Finals.
Hawks could use some help down the middle for sure.
....and I'll about your net minder for now. :wink:
Other than that, the Hawks (baring injury) should be back in the WC Finals next year.
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Brandon Saad has a very bright future for your Hawks.
He was really something else in the WC Finals.
Hawks could use some help down the middle for sure.
....and I'll about your net minder for now. :wink:
Other than that, the Hawks (baring injury) should be back in the WC Finals next year.
He was really something else in the WC Finals.
Hawks could use some help down the middle for sure.
....and I'll about your net minder for now. :wink:
Other than that, the Hawks (baring injury) should be back in the WC Finals next year.
And yup...Handzus worked last year as the 2nd-line C but this year, no gas left in the tank. Zip. His Corsi numbers and +/- were awful.
So, yeah...Chicago badly needs help down the middle behind Toews. I think with Shaw and Kruger at #3 and #4, they are set.
I won't go as far to predict a return to the WC finals right away because the West is getting scary good pretty fast. The Wild were pretty eye-opening in how tough they played Chicago and I think if the Avs can fix their blueline, will be pretty scary...esp. with the forwards they have.
And the Blues aren't going anywhere. I would think the Sharks will take a step backwards...the Ducks will be a year wiser and better. They have a relatively young line-up.
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They call Saad "Man-Child" for a reason I guess...definitely a great pick-up for a 2nd rounder. Again, good drafting helps.
And yup...Handzus worked last year as the 2nd-line C but this year, no gas left in the tank. Zip. His Corsi numbers and +/- were awful.
So, yeah...Chicago badly needs help down the middle behind Toews. I think with Shaw and Kruger at #3 and #4, they are set.
I won't go as far to predict a return to the WC finals right away because the West is getting scary good pretty fast. The Wild were pretty eye-opening in how tough they played Chicago and I think if the Avs can fix their blueline, will be pretty scary...esp. with the forwards they have.
And the Blues aren't going anywhere. I would think the Sharks will take a step backwards...the Ducks will be a year wiser and better. They have a relatively young line-up.
And yup...Handzus worked last year as the 2nd-line C but this year, no gas left in the tank. Zip. His Corsi numbers and +/- were awful.
So, yeah...Chicago badly needs help down the middle behind Toews. I think with Shaw and Kruger at #3 and #4, they are set.
I won't go as far to predict a return to the WC finals right away because the West is getting scary good pretty fast. The Wild were pretty eye-opening in how tough they played Chicago and I think if the Avs can fix their blueline, will be pretty scary...esp. with the forwards they have.
And the Blues aren't going anywhere. I would think the Sharks will take a step backwards...the Ducks will be a year wiser and better. They have a relatively young line-up.
Experience will take a team VERY far.
Wild don't have it, Blues...nope, Sharks........Ducks...not really either.
The above teams are good teams, but the playoffs are an entirely different game all together.
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Not left standing. Nope.
So long as LA does not get complacent (I doubt it) and have a left-down because they are facing an "easier" team, this should be Cup #2 for your team.
I just don't see how the Rangers can take 4 games against the Kings. Sure, Lundqvist may steal a game? But, steal 4 games? Eh...not happening.
So long as LA does not get complacent (I doubt it) and have a left-down because they are facing an "easier" team, this should be Cup #2 for your team.
I just don't see how the Rangers can take 4 games against the Kings. Sure, Lundqvist may steal a game? But, steal 4 games? Eh...not happening.
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Pretty much the same team returns abeit a bit faster and more skilled now with the likes of Gaborik and Toffoli.
Rangers have a nice blueline. But, they don't have a Drew Doughty. And goaltending...let's just say both goalies can steal a game. So, tie there. So, it comes down to the forwards. And your team looks to be 1-line short against the Kings.
Look, anything can happen in the playoffs, but from a match-up standpoint, and with LA having home-ice (not that home ice mattered for the Kings), your Rangers have it tough because AV does not get the last change and has a team that's not as deep.
Not hatin'. Just telling it as it is.