neither of which is a wagon (USA-wise)

 

True, I hated the Audi-7 when it came out, but have grown to quite like it now.
I'd still have an AMG E-wagen over an RS7 though [/mbfanboi]

 

According to Motortrend it is coming to the US!!!

2017 Jaguar XF Sportbrake Wagon Coming to U.S. - Motor Trend

 

Shocking, but a good looking wagon!

 

^ No way that'll come to the US. Jag has a hard time convincing people to buy their sedans let alone a wagon.

 

Shocking, but a good looking wagon!

 

They are just artist renderings from the not going to be produced Cadillac into a wagon but damn it looks good.

 

I like it-looks long and I like the sloping roofline

 

First time in 6 years of ownership that I turned off ESP fully and had some fun in the snow. The car was very controllable with some GT Radial summer tires.

SO fun.


IMG_2728 by JS + MS3, on Flickr


IMG_2823 by JS + MS3, on Flickr


IMG_2825 by JS + MS3, on Flickr

 

I bet you loved the vibrations coming through the chassis after you got out on the pavement again due to all that snow in the wheels.

 

haha yeah it felt very weird for like 15 mins driving down the hill. Everything was gone and dried up by the time I got down to the base though. LA weather problem haha

 

How did that Spoon looking race car look in person?

 

What is worse in snow? AWD with summer tires or RWD with all season tires?

 

Excellent. He tracks it very often. I will be working on a few more interior pieces and will be doing a nice photoshoot for him. Can't wait.



I wonder that all the time too haha I don't know!

 

Awesome! Can't wait to see the shoot.

 

When did you get new wheels for the Avant? They look great.

 

IMO, the biggest misnomer or belief is that "all season" tires are truly all season. I've seen tests showing winter tires performing better in the rain than all season tires. I'd think in your scenario, RWD with all season's would be worse while either in deep snow, both would be terrifying. Yesterday we got 3-4' of snow in the space of 7 hours. I've got Yokohoma Snow tires on my AWD 530xi T which is a rock star in the snow. I cannot even imagine trying to drive around yesterday in anything but a car so equipped.

 

^ I can attest to economy all seasons not being any good in winter conditions.
We were in Idaho over the weekend, one of the guys was in a rental Forester & it just plowed straight ahead a few times on snowy/icy roads. Even driving straight on decent roads, it was squirrely.

 

The only all seasons tires I have ever used that I thought were pretty darn good in up to 3-4inches of snow were Continental DWS and Michilan Pilot Sport AS. They also are rated yearly as the two best all season tires out there so it is no wonder why. You get what you pay for and I agree winter tires are great and can make even RWD cars great in the snow.

 

i had the DWS on my Lexus and made it through a few inches of snow without any problems... i even made it up a very big hill where some SUVs got stuck because they stopped their momentum... DWS came on the Vagon but i have dedicated blizzaks now so when the DWS goes i'll switch to the DW series... i think Conti makes a great A/S tire so i'll stick with them...

 

AWD with summer tires will be worse every time. They just aren't designed to evacuate snow and also turn into hockey pucks in the cold. I drove my 330Xi with summer tires in the snow once and couldn't even get up my driveway, which isn't that steep, with ~1" of snow on it. I had to park on the street, clear the driveway, and then go up. The tires were promptly switched to Blizzaks as this was really early in the season and the snow was a surprise.

All season tires can at least be somewhat effective in snow but are nowhere near as good as legitimate snow tires.

 

If this has been posted before, bite me but I'd definitely rock one of these S90 wagons

 

Definitely an attractive wagon. Been a long time since I've driven any form of Volvo, so no idea on how they drive.

 

I'd much rather buy this wagon than having to resort to an X5, Grand Cherokee, whatever which I thought was going to be my direction.

 

Can't go wrong there. Dropping the BMW for a Volvo, or adding a 2nd wagon?

 

I see having to replace the 530xi T in the next 2 years so just planning ahead.

 

in 2 years, there could be a G31 Wagon... or 6 series GT

 

I'm no fan of the GT line of BMW's cars, not by a long shot. I don't want new anyways, I want CPO

 

CPO E63 Estate

 

Hmmm, NO-not an MBZ kinda guy

 

Cpo rs7...

 

not a wagon. Don't make me come over there and kick yer ass

 

Hey, you are the picky one with $$.

 

That said, a 6GC & an RS7 would be a garage....

 

The RS7 is a blast to drive even if it really isn't a wagon.

 

that would be a garage, however, it would also be a redundant garage since those 2 cars are in the same niche.

 

RS7 is a lot more practical than 6GC since it is a Hatch... not redundant at all

 

I was speaking in terms of the GC, A7 and MBZ, the CLS and the Panamera are all in the same niche.

 

Yah there is really nothing out there that is comparable to your 5 Wagon anymore.