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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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Price of the coming TLX Type S ?

Let's hear everyone's guess !!!! We got the torque now, watch out Germany lol
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 06:42 PM
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Over 9000!
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 09:04 PM
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 07:15 PM
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Simple, take the price of top trim TLX and add atleast $4-6k on top of that price.
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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I'm prepared to see sixty.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 12:06 AM
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But really, $55k.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 03:50 AM
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To me the real question is how much are you willing to pay for an "S"? Think numbers like $55,000 open it up to a number of other cars head to head. Its advantage has always been the price leader even when it had comparable performance.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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To me the real question is how much are you willing to pay for an "S"? Think numbers like $55,000 open it up to a number of other cars head to head. Its advantage has always been the price leader even when it had comparable performance.
TBH a Type S, if it has features similar to its direct competition, for the mid-upper $40's, will be a smash hit. The problem is, we know Acura....
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:16 AM
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Infiniti Q50 Red Sport with 400HP is $65K CAD. That means Acura Type S with similar or same HP will be around $60-65K. Simple. I think it will be around $63K.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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I just built an Infiniti Q50 RED SPORT. It comes to $65K CAD tax in. Infiniti is giving $5,500 discount. Honestly, it's shocking that Infiniti doesn't sell more of these. Again, my theory is right. HP doesn't make a car successful. At the end of the day, people are looking for a package deal. The number of pure enthusiasts are limited.

That's why Acura needs to copy the same formula as RDX. Build a good car with lots of standard features, push 365-385HP and price it well. There is no point to build a car with 400+HP and ridiculous price. People will opt in for 340, C43 and S4 if the price isn't well established. I prefer Acura give us a well packaged vehicle with 365-385HP costing around $60K CAD.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 09:33 AM
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To me the real question is how much are you willing to pay for an "S"? Think numbers like $55,000 open it up to a number of other cars head to head. Its advantage has always been the price leader even when it had comparable performance.
That's right. The current TLX tops out just under $50k, so I expect the new one to reach a little higher, maybe $52k when fully loaded. It has to undercut the S4 and M340i xDrive by a few grand when comparably equipped.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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I just built an Infiniti Q50 RED SPORT. It comes to $65K CAD tax in. Infiniti is giving $5,500 discount. Honestly, it's shocking that Infiniti doesn't sell more of these. Again, my theory is right. HP doesn't make a car successful. At the end of the day, people are looking for a package deal. The number of pure enthusiasts are limited.
The issue with RED's lack of sales in its niche is plainly listed in the 2020 road test by C&D. Remember its not rated horsepower that sells to the performance market its actual rubber meets the road performance.

C&D said this:

Overall RED is rated at 12th in the niche.

VERDICT The Q50 Red Sport 400 offers athletic driving dynamics, but rival models are quicker and have quieter cabins.

but we'd recommend that you check out competing models from
BMW and Mercedes-Benz if you're seeking a well-rounded, polished package.

In our tests, the Q50 Red Sport 400 raced from
zero to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds. Other models in this segment offer quicker acceleration. For example, a BMW M340i we tested made the sprint in 3.8 seconds and a Mercedes-AMG C43 4Matic covered that stretch in 4.1 seconds.





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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
I just built an Infiniti Q50 RED SPORT. It comes to $65K CAD tax in. Infiniti is giving $5,500 discount. Honestly, it's shocking that Infiniti doesn't sell more of these. Again, my theory is right. HP doesn't make a car successful. At the end of the day, people are looking for a package deal. The number of pure enthusiasts are limited.

That's why Acura needs to copy the same formula as RDX. Build a good car with lots of standard features, push 365-385HP and price it well. There is no point to build a car with 400+HP and ridiculous price. People will opt in for 340, C43 and S4 if the price isn't well established. I prefer Acura give us a well packaged vehicle with 365-385HP costing around $60K CAD.
I agree. High HP is always appreciated, but IMO the sacrifices you make for it (price,mileage etc) are not worth it. A AWD turbo six with HP in the low three hundred range and upgraded suspension and brakes would do the trick. Sixty grand is too much for a car.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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$55K street price max. Regardless of what the MSRP is.

Remember this is the time when the top of the line Corolla tops out at $26-27K
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lowgrowl
I agree. High HP is always appreciated, but IMO the sacrifices you make for it (price,mileage etc) are not worth it. A AWD turbo six with HP in the low three hundred range and upgraded suspension and brakes would do the trick. Sixty grand is too much for a car.
The Accord forums are over at https://www.driveaccord.net/
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory
The issue with RED's lack of sales in its niche is plainly listed in the 2020 road test by C&D. Remember its not rated horsepower that sells to the performance market its actual rubber meets the road performance.

C&D said this:

Overall RED is rated at 12th in the niche.

VERDICT The Q50 Red Sport 400 offers athletic driving dynamics, but rival models are quicker and have quieter cabins.

but we'd recommend that you check out competing models from
BMW and Mercedes-Benz if you're seeking a well-rounded, polished package.

In our tests, the Q50 Red Sport 400 raced from
zero to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds. Other models in this segment offer quicker acceleration. For example, a BMW M340i we tested made the sprint in 3.8 seconds and a Mercedes-AMG C43 4Matic covered that stretch in 4.1 seconds.
100% agreed!

That's why i am saying Acura needs to make a well balanced/packed car.
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Old Apr 13, 2020 | 06:07 PM
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The problem with Infiniti Red Sport is that it was released into their mid cycle refresh. By that time all the momentum that comes with a new car model was gone and sales where on the slide. Additionally, Infiniti got lazy and you can barely tell the Red Sport apart from the regular model. Factor in much higher price tag on top of that and you have a recepie for a failure. Acura, better take notes.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 12:19 AM
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I'd agree on $55k at most $58k. Too close to $60k and you're getting into S4 and C43 territory where Acura's value proposition starts to go away. Tried to build both on MB and Audi site configured simliar to even just current TLX and it was around $63k for both.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 12:25 AM
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I think Acura learned their lesson as only the v6 got the revised rear bumper and A-spec option during the MMC (initially at least). But the <300hp rating and 9ZF issues meant that buyers were still flocking to other brands.

Infiniti's other problem is that they lack the cult following and brand power that even Acura has with its Type-S line. Even with a more visually-differentiated Red Sport and the vaunted RWD platform, I suspect Honda/Acura loyalists and folks who prefer "challenger brands" will still pick the S. Maybe if they finally offered their top-end "Black Sport" line (as previewed by the 563-hp Q60 Project Black S) things might be different, but as it stands, the Red Sport name is already tarnished just like their short-lived IPL trim.
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Old Apr 14, 2020 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
The Accord forums are over at https://www.driveaccord.net/
Now that was a brilliant response
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 09:15 AM
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Acura must have a stellar interior for people to fork out 60k+ CAD. If this thing still has an analog cluster, it'll age too quickly. They need to be really careful with pricing. After the 9ZF fiasco, Acura's bang for the buck lustre is slowly fading. Especially if prices matches its rivals.
I'm personally excited for the refreshed Stinger details. If the Type-S can't match the Stinger's new 3.5L engine in terms of HP and performance, it's dead.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Even if the Type S matches Stinger its dead as well. If you can't outperform a f*n KIA with an all new motor which is about a decade too late don't bother with Type S.
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
Acura must have a stellar interior for people to fork out 60k+ CAD. If this thing still has an analog cluster, it'll age too quickly. They need to be really careful with pricing. After the 9ZF fiasco, Acura's bang for the buck lustre is slowly fading. Especially if prices matches its rivals.
I'm personally excited for the refreshed Stinger details. If the Type-S can't match the Stinger's new 3.5L engine in terms of HP and performance, it's dead.
$60K CAD will be tough. As I mentioned Infiniti can't sell the Q50 at that price range. I still believe Acura has better reputation than Infiniti (as we can see Acura sells at least 35-40% more than Infiniti cars). Also, Type S has a great reputation and well known among the car enthusiasts. Some people don't even know that Infiniti has a 400HP sedan.

Type S has to have ~365HP, better interior than the current RDX, better tires and a price tag of $58K. If it's $60K, then Acura better offers some solid goodies to match the Germans. Otherwise, it will be tough.

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Something to think about at over $60,000 USD. The 377BHP RLX @ $63,000 sold 72 cars last month & 1,019 all last year. This will be very interesting to follow over the next year.
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I won't be surprised if Acura segments the Type-S (Base, Tech, Advance/Elite) to meet certain price points.

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Type S can’t be above 55K in my view. I have my eye on an RDX Type S and the most I’d pay is 55K for that model (depending on what it is spec’d with).
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Old Apr 15, 2020 | 07:41 PM
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Let’s not confuse USD and CAD.

I am referring $58K to $60K CAD. How much is a C43 or S4 in USA?
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$52,400 USD for an S4 premium plus...

The TLX Type-S can't start at more than $48k USD.
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Guys with all the potential tech offered in the car I believe MRSP will be around 65k for a load type s similar to the s4 prestige
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Guys with all the potential tech offered in the car I believe MRSP will be around 65k for a load type s similar to the s4 prestige
What potential tech are you referring to?
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Guys with all the potential tech offered in the car I believe MRSP will be around 65k for a load type s similar to the s4 prestige
For sure this won't come in at $65k USD. No way it would be more expensive than a S4 or C43. If it is, they're lost out the gate. . .
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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger
$52,400 USD for an S4 premium plus...

The TLX Type-S can't start at more than $48k USD.
I aggree.

Back in the day, a TypeS came in around $9-12K more than a top end Accord...

Currently, a Touring Accord is around $39K...
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For sure this won't come in at $65k USD. No way it would be more expensive than a S4 or C43. If it is, they're lost out the gate. . .
people said the same thing about the NSX too
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people said the same thing about the NSX too
Not sure what people said about the NSX. Point is they can't sell them even with big discounts. Factory discount of $20,000 after you make your best price at the dealer ran through March 2020. 34 total USA cars sold in all of 2020 through March. Car is less expensive than a top end C7 StingRay
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Guys with all the potential tech offered in the car I believe MRSP will be around 65k for a load type s similar to the s4 prestige
At that price, it'll become the new RLX in terms of sales. That engine better have over 375HP and a 48 volt mild hydrid system.
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I'm revising my guesstimate upwards. The Kia Stinger tops out around $54k, and the Cadillac CT5 Premium Luxury V6 with the Platinum Package is around $58K. With these, I figure a fully loaded TLX Type-S could hit an MSRP of $55k, maybe a little more.
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
At that price, it'll become the new RLX in terms of sales. That engine better have over 375HP and a 48 volt mild hydrid system.
the SHAWD RLX had lots of horsies+electric motors and still didnt sell well.



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