This is how to get high MPG from your RDX
10-21-2016, 08:34 AM
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Nevertheless, I'm glad you made this post finally talking something technical. Any other talk is indeed bull crap.
For instance, how is the MTBF for a liquid like engine oil determined and how did you arrive at 50000 hours? Does that number apply to all kinds of oil like full-synth, blended, mineral equally?
I could also come up with my Excel and put my numbers to arrive at any arbitrary oil change intervals. But then you and the gang immediately question that.
Let's say I put fresh oil and don't drive 14775.45 miles for 5 years because I just commute 3 miles to work every day. Then according to your scientific analysis I should not change the oil for 5 years.
It is true though that you can change full synth oil between 5K and 15K miles but that depends on the driving condition, towing, climate (humidity in the air) to name a few factors.
I change my oil at 5K to protect the engine in the long run. You want to change it at 14,775.45 miles go ahead. So what's the issue here?
Based on my driving condition and climate where I live that suits me. You and others do whatever you think is correct but what is this fuss and childish posts about?
If it makes you happy that I'm wrong and you are right let's go for it.
10-21-2016, 08:45 AM
#122
Not own spreadsheet and formulas. Formulas and equations that are accepted by ASME, ASQ, and other INTERNATIONAL governing engineering bodies. I did not make up the equations. They're accepted all over the world. And the other numbers are engineering estimates for replacement costs of parts, not arbitrary. Arbitrary implies a guess with no logic behind it. The logic behind my numbers are real world estimates based on like and similar components.
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10-21-2016, 08:50 AM
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But this is in contrast to behaving like a troll in this tread along with bunch of other clowns in a gang-like fashion.
Nevertheless, I'm glad you made this post finally talking something technical. Any other talk is indeed bull crap.
So it is fair to say you have come up with your own spreadsheet and formulas and then inserting arbitrary numbers to arrive at 14,775.45 miles?
For instance, how is the MTBF for a liquid like engine oil determined and how did you arrive at 50000 hours? Does that number apply to all kinds of oil like full-synth, blended, mineral equally?
I could also come up with my Excel and put my numbers to arrive at any arbitrary oil change intervals. But then you and the gang immediately question that.
Let's say I put fresh oil and don't drive 14775.45 miles for 5 years because I just commute 3 miles to work every day. Then according to your scientific analysis I should not change the oil for 5 years.
It is true though that you can change full synth oil between 5K and 15K miles but that depends on the driving condition, towing, climate (humidity in the air) to name a few factors.
I change my oil at 5K to protect the engine in the long run. You want to change it at 14,775.45 miles go ahead. So what's the issue here?
Based on my driving condition and climate where I live that suits me. You and others do whatever you think is correct but what is this fuss and childish posts about?
If it makes you happy that I'm wrong and you are right let's go for it.
Nevertheless, I'm glad you made this post finally talking something technical. Any other talk is indeed bull crap.
So it is fair to say you have come up with your own spreadsheet and formulas and then inserting arbitrary numbers to arrive at 14,775.45 miles?
For instance, how is the MTBF for a liquid like engine oil determined and how did you arrive at 50000 hours? Does that number apply to all kinds of oil like full-synth, blended, mineral equally?
I could also come up with my Excel and put my numbers to arrive at any arbitrary oil change intervals. But then you and the gang immediately question that.
Let's say I put fresh oil and don't drive 14775.45 miles for 5 years because I just commute 3 miles to work every day. Then according to your scientific analysis I should not change the oil for 5 years.
It is true though that you can change full synth oil between 5K and 15K miles but that depends on the driving condition, towing, climate (humidity in the air) to name a few factors.
I change my oil at 5K to protect the engine in the long run. You want to change it at 14,775.45 miles go ahead. So what's the issue here?
Based on my driving condition and climate where I live that suits me. You and others do whatever you think is correct but what is this fuss and childish posts about?
If it makes you happy that I'm wrong and you are right let's go for it.
10-21-2016, 08:53 AM
#125
This issue here is that you're spouting off information to others as if you know everything about this. You guessed at your numbers because that's what marketing people did to you. They got you hook, line, and sinker. You would have made more friends on here had you just said something to the effect of, "These things are what worked for me, they may/may not work for you." But no, you didn't do that, you came on here with a certain cockiness behind your bullshit numbers. That leads to members, like me, calling your ass out.
10-21-2016, 09:08 AM
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You do math all day??? Holy shit my dream job...said no one ever. Euhhhh, i'm pretty sure i'd rather stay in school for ever than "do math all day" HAHAHA What does that even mean? As far as i'm concerned, you work operating a hot dog cart and the math you do is calculating the minimum amount of weiners you need to sell to pay for a new keyboard every 3 months because you just burn through them at record speed, while you sit on your ass all day "doing math" and trolling on a forum.
Math, haha you probably don't even know how to solve a simple function
Math, haha you probably don't even know how to solve a simple function
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10-21-2016, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
i do math all day. 
Didn't think so...
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10-21-2016, 09:14 AM
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Too long; didn't read.
But I saw lots of words, a big spreadsheet, lots of bullet points and numbers. Something tells me it's the equivalent of a mic drop bitch slap, combined.
But I saw lots of words, a big spreadsheet, lots of bullet points and numbers. Something tells me it's the equivalent of a mic drop bitch slap, combined.
10-21-2016, 09:17 AM
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But gatr, your task interval is 14,775.45 *hours* not miles.
10-21-2016, 09:19 AM
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But this is in contrast to behaving like a troll in this tread along with bunch of other clowns in a gang-like fashion.
Nevertheless, I'm glad you made this post finally talking something technical. Any other talk is indeed bull crap.
So it is fair to say you have come up with your own spreadsheet and formulas and then inserting arbitrary numbers to arrive at 14,775.45 miles?
For instance, how is the MTBF for a liquid like engine oil determined and how did you arrive at 50000 hours? Does that number apply to all kinds of oil like full-synth, blended, mineral equally?
I could also come up with my Excel and put my numbers to arrive at any arbitrary oil change intervals. But then you and the gang immediately question that.
Let's say I put fresh oil and don't drive 14775.45 miles for 5 years because I just commute 3 miles to work every day. Then according to your scientific analysis I should not change the oil for 5 years.
It is true though that you can change full synth oil between 5K and 15K miles but that depends on the driving condition, towing, climate (humidity in the air) to name a few factors.
I change my oil at 5K to protect the engine in the long run. You want to change it at 14,775.45 miles go ahead. So what's the issue here?
Based on my driving condition and climate where I live that suits me. You and others do whatever you think is correct but what is this fuss and childish posts about?
If it makes you happy that I'm wrong and you are right let's go for it.
Nevertheless, I'm glad you made this post finally talking something technical. Any other talk is indeed bull crap.
So it is fair to say you have come up with your own spreadsheet and formulas and then inserting arbitrary numbers to arrive at 14,775.45 miles?
For instance, how is the MTBF for a liquid like engine oil determined and how did you arrive at 50000 hours? Does that number apply to all kinds of oil like full-synth, blended, mineral equally?
I could also come up with my Excel and put my numbers to arrive at any arbitrary oil change intervals. But then you and the gang immediately question that.
Let's say I put fresh oil and don't drive 14775.45 miles for 5 years because I just commute 3 miles to work every day. Then according to your scientific analysis I should not change the oil for 5 years.
It is true though that you can change full synth oil between 5K and 15K miles but that depends on the driving condition, towing, climate (humidity in the air) to name a few factors.
I change my oil at 5K to protect the engine in the long run. You want to change it at 14,775.45 miles go ahead. So what's the issue here?
Based on my driving condition and climate where I live that suits me. You and others do whatever you think is correct but what is this fuss and childish posts about?
If it makes you happy that I'm wrong and you are right let's go for it.
10-21-2016, 09:21 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:27 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:32 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:34 AM
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Anyone wanna see my engineering ruler??
10-21-2016, 09:36 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:37 AM
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Not own spreadsheet and formulas. Formulas and equations that are accepted by ASME, ASQ, and other INTERNATIONAL governing engineering bodies. I did not make up the equations. They're accepted all over the world. And the other numbers are engineering estimates for replacement costs of parts, not arbitrary. Arbitrary implies a guess with no logic behind it. The logic behind my numbers are real world estimates based on like and similar components.
10-21-2016, 09:38 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:41 AM
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Your points are valid and backed by science, fact, and research. 'Nuff said.
10-21-2016, 09:43 AM
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10-21-2016, 09:46 AM
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Well, I was an accident reconstructionist (Northwestern Traffic Institute) for two decades, so your article actually makes quite a bit more sense to me than trying to read "Measurement of Laser-Induced Plasma Properties Using Laser Beam Diffraction".....and I actually did read both of those articles (one of my sons is an Optical Engineer...).
Your points are valid and backed by science, fact, and research. 'Nuff said.
Your points are valid and backed by science, fact, and research. 'Nuff said.
Will you be my friend? 
10-21-2016, 09:55 AM
#149
but now it's clear you were interested in just being right and having your ego stroked.
In that one long post, Gatr has given you more content to swallow than you know what to do with (and more than I've seen on AZ in months).
Be a man. Admit the feet.
10-21-2016, 10:03 AM
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10-21-2016, 10:10 AM
#151
Wait a fuckin second...how do you keep the filter hole from pouring the dirty oil out?
Why not just go for it...for another 25 bucks in oil, have it all changed.
Also, I'm mad that you're a dude. Chick Dr had all sorts of fantasies going through my head.
Why not just go for it...for another 25 bucks in oil, have it all changed.
Also, I'm mad that you're a dude. Chick Dr had all sorts of fantasies going through my head.
10-21-2016, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Also, I'm mad that you're a dude. Chick Dr had all sorts of fantasies going through my head.
Then fantasies changed
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10-21-2016, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
you started the thread with a quest for sharing knowledge supposedly...
but now it's clear you were interested in just being right and having your ego stroked.
In that one long post, Gatr has given you more content to swallow than you know what to do with (and more than I've seen on AZ in months).
Be a man. Admit the feet.
but now it's clear you were interested in just being right and having your ego stroked.
In that one long post, Gatr has given you more content to swallow than you know what to do with (and more than I've seen on AZ in months).
Be a man. Admit the feet.
10-21-2016, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Wait a fuckin second...how do you keep the filter hole from pouring the dirty oil out?
Why not just go for it...for another 25 bucks in oil, have it all changed.
Why not just go for it...for another 25 bucks in oil, have it all changed.
Filter is up top
10-21-2016, 11:37 AM
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Yeah, those guys do "play nice".
A lot.
A lot.
10-22-2016, 11:56 AM
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So that PDF posted by op is some random dudes opinion essay.
Another one
Much english, very run on.
There's even a gawyammed test at the end of the gawyammed pdf. 
/thread
I have seen several car owner manuals that are now stating that oils do not need to be changed
but every 7,500 miles or more. The same manual also states OR every 12 months, whichever
occurs first. My feeling is that you can probably go 5,000 miles on the average (in a sports car)
but you must change your oil in the spring time at a minimum, particularly up north. Oils form
waxes in icy cold weather. There is a permanent thickening of the oil.
but every 7,500 miles or more. The same manual also states OR every 12 months, whichever
occurs first. My feeling is that you can probably go 5,000 miles on the average (in a sports car)
but you must change your oil in the spring time at a minimum, particularly up north. Oils form
waxes in icy cold weather. There is a permanent thickening of the oil.
I firmly believe this based on all I know about oils.
Since the synthetic oil thickens less on shutdown your startup will be easier and so will the stress on your engine.
/thread
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10-22-2016, 01:03 PM
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But but but I read it on the internet ... What do you mean it's not true?!?!