rondog

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Ok, no time to fish around and piece this together myself, I just need the facts ma'am. Dropping in a new engine, found a few AT engines within 1-2 miles of me, and I need too to get the car running again asap.

Long story short, had a misfire on cylinder 5, changed the coils, the spark plug, the injector and the cylinder wouldn't fire up. Checked the compression and it was only 90 compared to 175 of the other cylinders.

Going to check the original engine when it's out, in the meantime this is what I need from you guys:

List of things to give my mechanic to go from dropping a AT type S engine into my MT CL-S.

My mechanic is good and I will be helping him here and there with the drudge work, but I want to make it as smooth and spelled out as possible. I found an AT type S engine with low miles for $600.

Thanks and wish me luck. BTW, I'm selling my blower for $2500, its got everything and was recently rebuilt by Magnuson, pulls hard and the blower itself is already out of the car.

richardparker

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I don't have a 6speed but,
I imagine you need the front cam gear and sensors.
Crankshaft sensor and possibly the crankshaft timming belt pully if the pick up tooth pattern is differnt.

civicdrivr

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Cam sensors as well as the crank gear. Sorry to hear about your motor btw. Also, dont use the automatic engine harness, you have to use the 6MT harness.

p.diddy

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why are you selling your S/C?

rondog

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So I can use the one in my original CL, right? Wish there was a comprehensive list I could just hand to my mechanic.



Selling the car NA and the blower separate to get more $. Looking at a 2010 MT TL AWD.

richardparker

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^Weird
It's been told to you twice.

( cam sensors), I would use the same gear with it.
(crank sensor), I would use the same gear with it.
Obviously the 6spd harness.

p.diddy

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another CL bites the dust. goodluck with the new TL if you get it.

anthracitecl

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Damn another one is gone...

bigdaddyKA8

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^x2.

rondog

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I'm convinced that anything over 3 lbs of boost is going to ruin the engine.

Good news is the car is getting a VERY nice engine, had about the same miles as my car, but was in a TL-S and my mechanic selected it out of a choice of 3 engines. He instantly told me this is the one we need to take, I bought it, loaded it into the back of my truck and took it to the shop. By the end of the day, the blower was out and the engine was being disconnected to be taken out.

So in the next few days, i'll be selling the car with the new engine and no blower. I already decided to change the timing belt and water pump while the new engine is out.

Parts are fresh, it has a tune up and the appearance of the car along with any other mods is the same.

Gonna drive it for a few days to make sure everything checks out and then i'll list it for sale.

Can't wait to get into the 2010 AWD TL-6.

gnuts

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Hopefully you can get a good deal on a RJ kit for the new TL.

CL-Future

It can definitely be pretty rough on the stock pistons/rings. Good luck with the TL. I wish Acura would make some more powerful cars. This technology kick they're on was cool at first but is pretty lame now imho.

rondog

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We have the front lips available now after going through hell with our old factory. Sides and rear are coming soon. Even then, I have a full prototype lip kit that can be installed if needed.

Gonna be putting the wheels, kit and grille on right away, then maaaaaybe springs, intake and ATLP mufflers. But thats about it. I plan on keeping it for a LONG time.

gnuts

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I'm sure you'll make the right touches to make it more pleasing to the eye. Plus it'll be more practical for you. We only have one kid, so the CL still works....for now.

anthracitecl

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X2. I saw quite of people have problems with running HBP. That's why i just ran w/low boost. I haven't had any issues at all. And that's enough power for me.
Good luck with your new car Rondog.

rondog

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Stick with the 3 lbs, i wish I never got the 6 lb upgrade.

civicdrivr

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The issue is tuning - or lack thereof.

Why are you getting a '10 TL and not the facelifted model?

Karanx7

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Wasn't there a full standalone if you had an Auto Engine and a 6spd tranny?

zeta

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< Running the HBP since Jan '05 in the FL heat, 85K on the S/C unit, 93 octane only, oil changes every 5K; 10w30, no issues thus far (knocks on wood)

Very rarely a day goes by without a boost or two.

richardparker

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Ems but,it sounds like he is no longer interested in modding the car.

rondog

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Our grille and bodykit only fit the 09-11 and these are less expensive.


No, the ESM is just for 3 lbs of boost, after that, tuning is a mystery.

I was perfect until 2 weeks ago, otherwise I would be smashing wood with a sledge hammer if I were you.

Right, after driving 2 CL's over a period of 12 years, I thunk I'm ready to move on, besides, 3 kids from 2-8 years old, I need more room.

zeta

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So, will your guy be able to determine if #5 cylinder was toasted before the stock plugs were installed instead of the IK22's or was the cylinder toasted after a new set of IK22's were installed?

StreetKA

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the problem is tuning in this case im sure this engine is able to handle 6lbs... i wont run 6lbs without a tune thats for sure

zeta are you heavy footed ? how do you drive your car ? are beating the living shit out of it or just taking easy on it... how many miles on the car and any preventive maintenance ?

civicdrivr

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These engines could handle ~9psi in stock form. Its all in the tuning though. Sadly, there arent many places out there that can actually tune the J properly.

zeta

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Street, I'm with you; however, that's the gambler in me. Like I stated in another thread, I'm not giving up on this 'fat pig' just yet. I want to take the S/C'er as far as I can, kind of like Cosmo with the tank of gas on Seinfeld. hehe.

On a scale of 1 to 5, solid 4.

My car bakes alot in stop and go traffic, with the A/C on. There are very calculated WOT runs from a roll. I try very hard not to run from a stop.

For sh*ts and giggles, try this sometime when you get your S/Cer reinstalled. I like to get the car up to 80mph on the highway, set the cruise, then cancel the command by tapping the brake. Then wait for a decently steeped highway overpass incline to come up. If it's safe, drop the speed to around 50-55 and then hit the resume button on the cruise alittle bit before the start of the climb and enjoy the ride. The electronic increase of the cruise control coupled with the additional load of the incline makes for a bit of exciting acceleration.

Since I have a couple of decades on most of you twenty somethings, I must admit that I don't 'beat the living shit out of it'. It's my daily driver that has treated these old bones very well since bought new in March '02. So, that is probably the very reason it has not shit itself just yet.

The car has 130K currently. Timing belt, axles, front bearings, ft. knuckles, lower BJ's, motor mounts, front/rear struts with new rubber, rebuilt PS pump/fluid, IK22's, RR bushings, EGR cleaning, inner/outer LCA bushings, tranny fluid, clutch at 60K, rear cylinder head (bent valves) at 23K. All except clutch and cylinder head performed by myself.

This is fact. I have talked to many wide eyed tuners that would have just loved to get my car on their dyno rack and experiment with it. To say the least, in just talking to them, dam near all of them did not impress me at all, so it never happened.

If he tuned (?), there is only one person on this forum that I would let touch my car and I think you know who that is; but, sadly the distance is prohibitive.

Rondog, sorry to see the trouble with the motor; however, it seems that there is an 'invisible hand' at work in your case and the four door TL appears to be the ticket for your growing family situation.

Good Luck.

civicdrivr

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I need a vacation. Ill drive it up to him, I wont even charge you

p.diddy

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forget distance. the NSX is going up there in time and im down here in Florida with you.

rondog

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IK22 were installed as well as a single fuel injector and brand new coil pack. Also changed the thermostat, cleaned the EGR valve, and the IVAC valve. Even cleaned all the carbon under the manifold, and tested the electrical connection to both the coil and the injector. Between all that we did an oil change and engine coolant flush, I mean we did everything and saved the worst situation for last. 175 lbs of compression in the surrounding cylinders, with only 90 lbs of pressure in cylinder 5.

Can I do anything with the old engine?

phee

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Take the heads off And re ring the old engine.

rondog

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any link to whats involved, can I do it with regular tools?

rondog

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Ok, this is important, and please answer only if you know for sure:

Can the engine wire harness from the 6 speed manual engine be transferred over to an auto CL-S engine?

StreetKA

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i believe you're using 6speed harness but you need to swap out the sensors too iirc camshaft and crank atleast

richardparker

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You are switching your 6spd sensors over to the auto engine right ?
If the auto engine is in your 6spd car Stick to your known working harness.

rondog

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Yeah, thats what I'm asking, my mechanic didn't want to do that and have an issue when we drop in the auto CL engine and the 6 speed harness combo. Thanks.

Know how hard it is to swap the harness? Looks like a lot has to come off the old engine and new one to get it all linked up.

civicdrivr

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It looks intimidating, but it isnt. Take off the harness from the 6MT motor, and install it one plug at a time, unplugging the auto harness, on the new motor.

rondog

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Oh man, I hate when this happens...


Was shopping around and I really don't feel like I see anything I like out thee for the money. The TLs I was looking at with slightly lower prices were both involved in accidents. And my car has the engine out already.

I think I'm going to take advantage of the engine being out and all and have the car repainted a graphite metallic with extra flake, then have the blower put back in at 3 lbs of boost and the ESM only.

I think this would be strong enough to last me a few more years and would be a lot less expensive, plus I get to address my paint issues with the swirls and scratches.

So the project begins, I am scheduling the tow truck to bring the car over to proformance Industries to get the paint done and in the mean time, reupholster the seats and hook the new engine up with a full tuneup.

StreetKA

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Woot i kinda knew u gonna keep her

zeta

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Good to hear. Just make sure your boy knows about those spacers/washers on the S/Cer mount bracket to get the blower pulley aligned with the Alt. pulley during the reinstall.

Good Luck.

civicdrivr

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I look forward to updates:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=833438&page=2

rondog

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Yeah, I'm taking the kit off and I'm gonna ride her around a little lower and kit less until I get something from our new stock painted later on down the line.

Also, I basically took the car apart and engine out with my mechanic, so I will be able to get a set of pivoting wrench extensions to use with my ratchet set, just to remove the blower, it was fairly easy if you have the right tools.

Gonna tune up the new engine, tear it down and clean it out from all the gunk and carbon while it is out.

This is gonna be the project i always wanted, i already have a wealth of knowledge on this car, down to the last bolt.