Hi everyone,

I installed my ATLP V2R j pipe earlier this month without too many issues. I love how easily the car accelerates now regardless of RPM. Clearance is great too.

However, I have a "situation" that I wonder if anyone else has. I reached out to Heeltoe but I wanted to reach out to the community as well.

When installing the j pipe, it seems that the hanger arm on the new j pipe does not want to fit or come close to the existing mounting bracket. Everything else is perfectly centered. However in order for me to use the hanger and bracket, I need to move the bracket over by one hole (involving me removing an existing bolt, drilling out the bracket bolt hole to accommodate the larger bolt, and only being able to use one bracket bolt to secure it).

I have attached pictures for review. Hopefully someone can provide some input!

Thanks in advance!









I stripped a stud, ended up drilling it out and installing a bolt and nut combo. Shouldn't affect the fitment.





J pipe to exhaust connection. Everything is straight.





Notice how the left side of the hanger is not connected. Also notice the hole by the green mark is where the left side bracket hole should be.





The green X is where the right side bracket should be mounted to.





Notice how the hanger doesn't even come all the way through the rubber hanger. I even tried different orientations of the hanger and this was the best I could do.





Better view of how I had to shift the hanger over.

 

Vids plz

 

What kind of vids are you looking for?

 

Sound

 

Sounds stock. Maybe a deeper tone without any additional volume. Best way I can describe it is that you can almost hear it flow much better.

I can record a video later, but I double you'll notice anything different.

 

I have the same issue. I could not install the hanger because it was far off.

You would think after creating a prototype such issues won't exist...

 

I wonder if they are all like this...

I have mine, which I am waiting to install. I would hate to face the same issue.

 

Hey guys,

Heeltoe reached out to me. I'm going to provide them some measurements and hopefully they can come up with a solution.

Stay tuned!

 

have you tried with and without the hanger? And if so, did you notice a difference? Trying to fully understand their purpose

I ask bc i have some vibration, but i also have the ATLP exhaust.

 

So it's a given that if you purchase this J-Pipe you will have this issue I suppose.

 

They said they were getting conflicting reports. So hopefully it was just a bad batch. I haven't had time to measure my pipe for them but hopefully will do so soon.

 

Installed mine today, and had the same issue as OP. Will they do anything for the people with the bad batch?

 

I purchased one right after their initial release, and had the same issues, but I have an accord (not that it should make a difference because all of the other jpipes fit). The regular atlp v2 jpipe comes with its own hanger that replaces the oem. I wonder if this would help?

 

I don't even recall my mount looking anything like that. I didn't have any issues with mine. not sure what batch they are in now but I was one of the first.

After this Orlando city game I'll check it out.

 

I bought mine back right after the first batch came out as well and had the same issue. The welds were also pretty thick around the flange in the back and it caused the bolts to sit up on the welds and not flat/flush with the flange. I contacted Marcus about it and he was going to talk to the manufacture about it. I'm surprised it hasn't been resolved yet.

 

My mount was switched out when I had my v2 like Simione mentioned. So I had no issues.

 

Hi all,

I submitted updated photos and measurements to Marcus. We will see what comes of it. The j pipe definitely seems solid so I'm not sure how beneficial the mount is, but I figure a little extra support doesn't hurt.


This photo shows how off the hanger is. If I were to use the stock mounting of the bracket, it seems that the hanger would need to be moved towards the passenger side by 1.5".

Hopefully I'll hear something from Marcus soon.

 

Haven't tried without the hanger. But I left mine off just now after measuring. Will find out soon. The pipe feels sturdy so I'm not sure if I'll encounter vibrations.

The hanger just provides additional support for the pipe and I assume less strain on the flex portion of the pipe.

 

I just bought this on the notion is was a direct bolt on, factory fit...wtf.

 

No vibrations without the hanger. Still no response from Marcus or Heeltoe regarding future actions and etc.

 

I don't think it's a bad batch, it's just the way it is. I think that hanger position is for the TL-S?

It holds up fine without the hanger

 

Hi all,

I just got a reply from Marcus with Heeltoe. They plan on building an auxiliary bracket for the rubber hanger. They did state it may take some time for manufacturing but I'm happy that they have come up with a solution to the issue.

 

who needs a hanger when the jpipe supports itself

 

I just figure that additional support and less potential strain on the flex section isn't a bad thing.

 

Will all the earlier buyers get one for free?

 

Just got a response from Marcus. They will be providing the brackets to users who need them.

Now to just wait until they're done producing some and can ship them out. My understanding from Marcus's email is that this will take weeks.

Glad to hear that they've responded with a solution.

 

Many thanks to you for bringing it to their attention!!

 

Happy to help. Will keep people updated when the new mount comes in.

 

Hi everyone, I just wanted to give an update.

I received my hanger from Heeltoe just recently. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work in any combination. Either it's facing the wrong way or interfering with the body/not sitting flush.

I just wanted to give everyone an update. In addition to reach out to see if anyone figured out a solution. I have been in communication with David Walker at Heeltoe who is currently reviewing the issue.





Bracket flush. Hanger facing the wrong way.





Hanger can be used. But bracket cannot sit flush due to curvature of the body/frame.





Hanger could be used if you stretch the rubber hanger...but again, bracket cannot sit flush due to curvature of the body/frame.

 

Hi guys,

So yesterday I was surprised by a very pleasant phone call from Marcus at Heeltoe. He wanted to reach out and let me know what the problem was and how they plan to address it. Long story short, the J pipe was designed on a type S that is different from my base model TL. As a result, the hanger is off. In addition, the type S uses a different type of rubber hanger than the traditional oval ones that we see on exhaust stuff all the time.

I was super appreciative of his call as it meant that they were taking our concerns seriously. In addition, it was nice to know that the company was continually trying to address the issue as opposed to just telling us to just shove it...you already paid us.

Although unfortunate that it seems there may be some design issues, it's not entirely their fault that they didn't know that the base TL is different. These things happen! The part didn't require any modification to work (and it works well) and there were no problems with fitment! It also is quite supported even without the hanger.

Not once did I think Heeltoe wasn't helpful in trying to resolve this issue. They've been helpful and communicative.

So long story short, Heeltoe is working with us to get us the proper rubber hanger. The metal bracket they sent is suppose to be like the first picture where the supports are perpendicular. I cant imagine the amount of time and labor to design a part to be "universal" and address 3 different implementations (e.g., Accord, TL Type-S, and TL-P.). These things happen, I thoroughly enjoy my pipe, and I look forward to see how Heeltoe continues to work with me to make things right.

 

Update???

 

Still awaiting an update as I'm sure other members are.

Mr. Heeltoe, you make a presence on this website as an official vendor, it would help the entire community to keep us ALL abreast of the resolution your purportedly working on.

What is your solution? Why has it not been communicated to owners? What is the time-frame of resolution?

This was first brought up in April, and here it is now December with no solution. What gives?

 

Hi there guys,

Sorry about the delay in updates.

So the new rubber hanger in conjunction with the new hanger mount works and fits perfectly! I think it's amazing how you could manufacture a solution just based on measurements and some photos.

Anyways, the hanger works perfectly. It did ever so slightly pull the piping up closer to the body. Which I believe is awesome that despite not having this extra hanger, the J-pipe barely sagged down. So as Marcus and some others have said, the hanger isn't completely necessary. However, it did provide some additional support and some extra piece of mind.

Here are some pictures!

 

Looks like a good solution for the issue.

I hope Marcus mails one out to everyone that purchased a pipe or in some way reaches out to them with instructions on how to receive the same as above.

 

Hi there,

So to be perfectly honest, they were totally on point with working to remedy the issue. I was the one who was delayed. I got the rubber bushing in September/October. Unfortunately during that time I was in the process of transitioning to a new job and lots of life stuff happened.

HeelToe was extremely responsive and even followed up with me with a few phone calls (from Marcus himself). David Walker also was checking in with me periodically regarding the status of the bushing and their research. I have no qualms doing continued business with them again. They made the situation right. I don't even fault them for the initial situation. I can't even fathom engineering a product to work on multiple vehicles without having multiple vehicles on hand. Yet, they manage to do so with only a slight bump in the road. Fitment was great, no leaks, barely any sagging from the lack of hanger.

Anyways, I'm happy! Thanks for staying tuned everyone!

 

Again, I commend the vendor with following through, and successfully as it appears. But, by them not officially letting everyone know in a post or thread that there was an issue confuddles me.

It doesn't give those whom are unfamiliar with any company the confidence they seek in any purchase or issues thereafter.

I mean as it is, we're relying on information that "they will be providing the brackets to users who need them."

Is he going to contact everyone, make an official thread, email purchasers, post info on his website? Or is it just for those that happen upon this thread?

 

Bump for Heeltoe to come and chime in for resolution for all others.

 

why don't you just call him?