Nicky Pass

Indy and F1 is soooooooo boring to watch...........especialy the road courses in the city

JHEIII850Turbo

When Nascar goes to road courses that's cool, but I can't seem to get interested in the oval shaped courses, a little too bland for my taste.

Red Rider

Nicky, what are you smokin The good ole boys only run 2 a year and those big heavy cars look out of place imho. There is no comparison to F1 or CART.

soopa

ya... hey guys... lets go fast and make alot of left turns.... woooohoooooooo!!

Nicky Pass

The only good thing about indy-style racing is the crashes

F1 Fan

You've just managed to show us all you are not a true fan with that comment. Cup cars are fun to watch (in limited amounts) if you like fender bangin' racing. F1 is #1!

Starter

F1 is an interesting technological exhibition, but racing? CART is better racing and the training series (F3000, FAtl, etc.) are the best.

NASCAR? That's racing taxicabs isn't it? 8-)

soopa

how is F1 not racing but CART is???

Starter

Limited passing; only a very few (like between 2 & 6) cars on the grid have any realistic chance of competing for the win; the driver's ability is not the most important part - the best driver can't win without a Ferrari, Williams or on the odd day a McLaren. True that you can't be a total wanker and win with one either. The teams with the most money are the ONLY ones who can run up front.

CART offers more on track passing; all but 2-3 cars (drivers) have a realistic chance of a win on any given day; the driver and his relationship with the team (ie: set up) has far more influence on the out come of the race than what car he's driving.

That means more sport and real racing.

F1 Fan

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Limited passing; only a very few (like between 2 & 6) cars on the grid have any realistic chance of competing for the win; the driver's ability is not the most important part - the best driver can't win without a Ferrari, Williams or on the odd day a McLaren. True that you can't be a total wanker and win with one either. The teams with the most money are the ONLY ones who can run up front.

Consistently run up front yes, but this has ALWAYS been the rule in F1's modern era. OTOH, harken back to when JV was in the superior Williams and Schumacher was in the Benetton. Schu gave JV a run for the title to the end (ditto the titanic battles he had w/ Hill in a Williams). I think if you put Schumacher, Todt, Brawn and the guts of the Ferrari team (mechanics, engineers, aerodynamicists) in any team, he would still win w/o the benefit of the best car on the grid. He is absolutely the best driver on the grid day in and day out. I believe the more true statement is that the driver/car/team are equally important.

CART offers more on track passing; all but 2-3 cars (drivers) have a realistic chance of a win on any given day; the driver and his relationship with the team (ie: set up) has far more influence on the out come of the race than what car he's driving.

I don't agree with this statement at all-just look at the CART race in Montreal, they didn't do much passing there at all, rather like the F1 race a couple months earlier. Besides, if you want passing, go to an IRL race. F1 is about technology and the pinnacle of motorsport combined w/ all the glamor, excitement, sounds and smells of the engines and brakes screaming/glowing at 18.5K!! NOTHING BEATS AN F1 RACE, NOTHING!!!

Nicky Pass

I'm just trying to liven this section of the board up...........DRAG RACING IS THE BEST FORM OF RACING.............period!!!!!!!!!

Red Rider

Now you're really stirring it up !! As much as i love speed, Pro drag racing has no interest for me. It's amazing the speed they attain, but 4 seconds and the "Race" is over. Sorry, i need to see cars racing each other for at least 2 hours.

Red Rider

F1 is awesome, it's just not competitive right now. It has to be losing interest when the championship is decided before halfway, and every race is predictable with very little passing.

Nicky Pass

Honestly.........NASCAR is more exciting to watch than F1. There have been some good fights this year.

F1 Fan

Okay, I'm with ya on that. So in the spirit of your suggestion, have I told you guys what a colossal ASSHOLE Kenny Bernstein was back in the 80's when I worked for him in his restaurant chain? (Chelsea Street Pub, remember the Chelsea King rail dragster?). I am going to make it to the US Natn'l's one of these days, one of my toothless friends down the street goes and invited me along. Maybe I can extend my stay and catch the GP too!

Nicky Pass

It just amazes me that a dragster engine can produce well over 6000 horsepower. If you been to a live NHRA event, you'd understand!!!!!!