MotoGP: News and Discussion Thread
#601
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Watched the Moto2 race yesterday. First Moto race I've watched in years, really good hard racing. Looking forward to watching more this season.
#602
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I'm going to watch the Moto2 replay later today. It's been awhile since I watched a Moto2 or Moto3 race due to lack of time. However, with no MotoGP this year, I might as well watch something.
#603
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IMO, it was a great race, as a newbie getting back into it. Definitely no run-aways like in some of the top-tier motorsports.
#604
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https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...ntina/4736307/
Soon after, however, the prospect of kicking off the MotoGP season on April 5 at the Circuit of the Americas likewise became increasingly non-viable, following a declaration of a "state of emergency" in Austin and the quarantine lockdown of Italy, where much of the MotoGP paddock is based.
On Wednesday, MotoGP promoter Dorna confirmed the COTA race weekend would be delayed until later in the year "due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak".
Whereas the Moto2 and Moto3 campaigns have already got underway in Qatar this past weekend, MotoGP is now due to wait until April 19 at Argentina's Termas de Rio Hondo for its first race.
The COTA race is now slated for November 15, the date that previously belonged to the Valencia finale - which has now been pushed back a week to November 22.
The traditional post-race test in Valencia had already been shelved for 2020, but the latest schedule change casts major doubt over the Jerez test as well, it having been scheduled for November 19-20.
The MotoGP 2020 calendar has undergone another revision prompted by the threat of the coronavirus, with Austin ceding season opener status to Argentina and the finale moving to a week later.
An amended calendar was initially presented to the public on March 5, with Austin's Grand Prix of the Americas becoming the first premier-class race on the schedule after coronavirus-related travel restrictions forced the cancellation of the MotoGP round in Qatar, while the Thailand race was pushed back to October.Soon after, however, the prospect of kicking off the MotoGP season on April 5 at the Circuit of the Americas likewise became increasingly non-viable, following a declaration of a "state of emergency" in Austin and the quarantine lockdown of Italy, where much of the MotoGP paddock is based.
On Wednesday, MotoGP promoter Dorna confirmed the COTA race weekend would be delayed until later in the year "due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak".
Whereas the Moto2 and Moto3 campaigns have already got underway in Qatar this past weekend, MotoGP is now due to wait until April 19 at Argentina's Termas de Rio Hondo for its first race.
The COTA race is now slated for November 15, the date that previously belonged to the Valencia finale - which has now been pushed back a week to November 22.
The traditional post-race test in Valencia had already been shelved for 2020, but the latest schedule change casts major doubt over the Jerez test as well, it having been scheduled for November 19-20.
#606
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https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...-2020/4799778/
Since then, six further races have been cut completely for 2020, with the Japanese GP joining the British, Australian, Dutch, German and Finnish GPs on the list of cancelled races.
MotoGP has put plans in place to begin its delayed season with back-to-back races at Jerez on July 19 and 26 pending Spanish government approval.
With series promoter Dorna Sports keen to run as many races as possible this year, it has decided the season will remain European-based until mid-November, with any flyaway races taking place after that if possible to do so.
Commenting on the loss of the Japanese GP for the first time since 1986, Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta said: “The MotoGP family is working very hard to be able to restart the racing season and hold as many events as possible, and in the safest way possible.
“For this reason, the FIM and Dorna, in consultation with IRTA (Teams’ association) and MSMA (Manufacturers’ association), have decided that, until mid-November, MotoGP will remain in Europe to do as many European MotoGP events as we are able to.
“Therefore, overseas events, if at all possible, should be scheduled after mid-November – which would be too late in the year for the Motul Grand Prix of Japan to be held.
“For this reason it has been decided, in consultation with [track owner] Mobilityland, that the Motul Grand Prix of Japan cannot be held in 2020. I very much thank Mobilityland for the support given to MotoGP.
“On behalf of Dorna, I would also like to thank all the fans for their understanding and patience as we wait for the situation to improve. We very much look forward to returning to Motegi next year.”
Malaysia, America, Argentina and Thailand are the remaining flyaway events not yet cut from the 2020 schedule that could yet make an appearance towards the end of the year.
However, doubts over the US Formula 1 GP in Texas make a visit to the Circuit of the Americas for MotoGP unlikely this year, which would also throw a standalone trip to Argentina into doubt.
MotoGP has announced that the 2020 Japanese Grand Prix at Motegi has been cancelled due to the coronavirus pandemic, with all overseas races on hold till mid-November.
The COVID-19 pandemic has forced MotoGP to go on hiatus since the beginning of March, when it ran the Moto2 and Moto3 races in Qatar after cancelling the MotoGP event.Since then, six further races have been cut completely for 2020, with the Japanese GP joining the British, Australian, Dutch, German and Finnish GPs on the list of cancelled races.
MotoGP has put plans in place to begin its delayed season with back-to-back races at Jerez on July 19 and 26 pending Spanish government approval.
With series promoter Dorna Sports keen to run as many races as possible this year, it has decided the season will remain European-based until mid-November, with any flyaway races taking place after that if possible to do so.
Commenting on the loss of the Japanese GP for the first time since 1986, Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta said: “The MotoGP family is working very hard to be able to restart the racing season and hold as many events as possible, and in the safest way possible.
“For this reason, the FIM and Dorna, in consultation with IRTA (Teams’ association) and MSMA (Manufacturers’ association), have decided that, until mid-November, MotoGP will remain in Europe to do as many European MotoGP events as we are able to.
“Therefore, overseas events, if at all possible, should be scheduled after mid-November – which would be too late in the year for the Motul Grand Prix of Japan to be held.
“For this reason it has been decided, in consultation with [track owner] Mobilityland, that the Motul Grand Prix of Japan cannot be held in 2020. I very much thank Mobilityland for the support given to MotoGP.
“On behalf of Dorna, I would also like to thank all the fans for their understanding and patience as we wait for the situation to improve. We very much look forward to returning to Motegi next year.”
Malaysia, America, Argentina and Thailand are the remaining flyaway events not yet cut from the 2020 schedule that could yet make an appearance towards the end of the year.
However, doubts over the US Formula 1 GP in Texas make a visit to the Circuit of the Americas for MotoGP unlikely this year, which would also throw a standalone trip to Argentina into doubt.
#607
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Not even a projected restart or draft calendar. MotoGP is really behind compared to the other series.
#608
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Anyone catch the crazy first race?
Even crazier, Marc Marquez is now thinking about racing this weekend, right after his arm surgery.
Even crazier, Marc Marquez is now thinking about racing this weekend, right after his arm surgery.
#609
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First MotoGP race I've watch in almost 15 years. MM's off looked painful, but that control through the gravel was impressive.
Looking forward to catching more.
Looking forward to catching more.
#610
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MMarquez is a human highlight film. It's a shame that he got hit by his bike in that last accident.
#611
If 93 would have finished the race it would have gone down as one of his best rides ever. Runs off in the gravel, drops down the order to like 18th place, and battles back to fight for 2nd. He's done that in Moto 2 and Moto 3, but this was Moto GP. Unreal.
#612
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Yeah. As he was cutting through the field riding every lap like it was a qualifying lap, I kept wondering if he was pushing too hard. And then he fell.
#613
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https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...rtararo-jerez/
Marc Marquez will sit out race 2 after taking part in Saturday practice.
Alberto Puig said the team would prioritize the long-term health of Marquez, an eight-time champion, over the risks of further injury.
“We have a long relation and a long period to be together with Marc, and what we want is the safety of the rider first,” Puig said. “We want him to be strong and fit to secure the next years coming and he can be ready to race at his maximum level.
“Marc will try to come back as soon as possible but from our point of view, from our mentality, we have a lot of respect for this guy, for all of our riders, but in particular, we want that Marc understands his healing is very important for us and for him. And that’s why we’re not going to be counting the days to see when he’s coming back.”
“We have a long relation and a long period to be together with Marc, and what we want is the safety of the rider first,” Puig said. “We want him to be strong and fit to secure the next years coming and he can be ready to race at his maximum level.
“Marc will try to come back as soon as possible but from our point of view, from our mentality, we have a lot of respect for this guy, for all of our riders, but in particular, we want that Marc understands his healing is very important for us and for him. And that’s why we’re not going to be counting the days to see when he’s coming back.”
#614
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Crazy race, lots of retirements/crashes.
Almost didn't think my DVR had recorded it, it showed up in the list as Moto2.
The temps were crazy, Vin said he couldn't breathe following Rossi. 130* track temps, plus the exhaust coming off Rossi's bike. Stifling I'm sure.
Almost didn't think my DVR had recorded it, it showed up in the list as Moto2.
The temps were crazy, Vin said he couldn't breathe following Rossi. 130* track temps, plus the exhaust coming off Rossi's bike. Stifling I'm sure.
#615
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My Comcast DVR also said Moto2, but it also said it was live, so I figured they just made a mistake with the title.
Yeah, crazy race with all the attrition. Certainly looks like Quatararo's championship to lose after 2 races.
Yeah, crazy race with all the attrition. Certainly looks like Quatararo's championship to lose after 2 races.
#616
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Marc Marquez has second surgery on broken arm, set to miss Czech GP
https://www.autosport.com/motogp/new...-miss-czech-gp
Marquez has a long career ahead of him, just rest and recover don't rush getting back into competition.
Marquez has a long career ahead of him, just rest and recover don't rush getting back into competition.
#617
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Well, that's bad news. He needs to heal and come back when he's ready.
I hope this year won't be a walkaway for Quatararo.
I hope this year won't be a walkaway for Quatararo.
#618
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The MotoGP race this week was like the F1 race. A shock win for KTM. Seems like the whole grid was flipped upside down. The satellite teams were beating the factory teams. The rookie was beating the veterans. Amazing race.
#619
I am not surprised by Binder winning a race already. He has always been a very good rider. As far as KTM, they give a fair amount of credit to Dani Pedrosa's test riding/feedback for development.
#620
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What's going on with Alex Marquez?
#621
Alex is out. He is moving to LCR Honda next season, replacing Crutchlow. Pol Espargaro is moving to Repsol Honda. Maybe Puig should have gone after Binder instead.
Alex is a good rider, but didn't really deserve a factory seat in his first season. He'll be better off on a satellite team with less pressure for podiums and time to develop.
Alex is a good rider, but didn't really deserve a factory seat in his first season. He'll be better off on a satellite team with less pressure for podiums and time to develop.
#622
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That may be true, but why is his pace so slow? Can't be all down to pressure, can it?
#623
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MotoGP newbie, but look at Gasly in F1. Promoted to Red Bull Sr & his performance dropped; not to the point of running at the back, but considerably slower than his teammate.
Drops to Red Bull Jr & his pace/driving improved.
Drops to Red Bull Jr & his pace/driving improved.
#624
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I just can't imagine someone on Repsol Honda machinery riding dead last.
#625
#626
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Race 1: 19 out of 20 riders
Race 2: 21 out of 21 riders
Race 3: 21 out of 21 riders
I think with MM out, it reinforces what we've seen over the last few years, that except for Marc, no one can get any speed out of the Honda. The Honda just must be impossible to master/or its so tuned to Marc's style that no one else can make it work.
#627
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#Newbie
MM & AM are teammates & separated by pretty much the whole grid? That's pretty crazy. Can't imagine a situation like that in F1 where teammates consistently quali so far apart (even though MM has been out of commission).
MM & AM are teammates & separated by pretty much the whole grid? That's pretty crazy. Can't imagine a situation like that in F1 where teammates consistently quali so far apart (even though MM has been out of commission).
#628
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Alex is out. He is moving to LCR Honda next season, replacing Crutchlow. Pol Espargaro is moving to Repsol Honda. Maybe Puig should have gone after Binder instead.
Alex is a good rider, but didn't really deserve a factory seat in his first season. He'll be better off on a satellite team with less pressure for podiums and time to develop.
Alex is a good rider, but didn't really deserve a factory seat in his first season. He'll be better off on a satellite team with less pressure for podiums and time to develop.
It's not uncommon for Moto2 champion to move to a factory MotoGP team
It is perplexing to say the least.
The RC213V chassis is not the best (although Marquez using it very effectively) and it's power although has delivery issues according to riders. I recall reading that the FIM mandated ECU causes issues but can't recall what those technical problems were for the HRC motor
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#630
Like Alex, Franco Morbidelli didn't win the Moto 2 title until his 5th season when he and Alex where teammates for Marc VDS. Franco moved up to a satellite team, which was appropriate for his record and experience.
#631
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Rossi & Mav are some lucky guys. Rossi was pretty much inches from disaster.
Followed by proof you shouldn't drive angry
And a shame for Suzuki.
#632
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Alex Marquez is not like his brother, Pedrosa or Lorenzo. Pedrosa won the intermediate title twice, including his first year. Lorenzo won it 2 out of 3 years. His brother almost won it 2 out of 2 years. It isn't uncommon, but typically reserved for better riders.
Like Alex, Franco Morbidelli didn't win the Moto 2 title until his 5th season when he and Alex where teammates for Marc VDS. Franco moved up to a satellite team, which was appropriate for his record and experience.
Like Alex, Franco Morbidelli didn't win the Moto 2 title until his 5th season when he and Alex where teammates for Marc VDS. Franco moved up to a satellite team, which was appropriate for his record and experience.
Some MotoGP2 champions move up to factory MotoGP rides, sometimes a MotoGP2 rider doesn't even winthe championship and moves to a factory team (Álex Rins).
https://autos.yahoo.com/rossi-terrif...171516298.html
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#633
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Saw a report that when he came into the pits, his bike was covered in oil.
Crazy that the bike stayed upright & at speed through the gravel.
Mav was just ahead of it, but you can see him duck & hug the tank as the debris flies his way.
#634
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^ the video makes it look even more terrifying
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#635
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Slo-mop onboard with Rossi
And another
And another
#636
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Looks like FMs tail missed VRs nose by millimetres.
#638
Neither you nor I have any clue as to how Alex would have performed in MotoGP, so to say it's reserved for "better riders" and Alex is not is ridiculous.
Some MotoGP2 champions move up to factory MotoGP rides, sometimes a MotoGP2 rider doesn't even win the championship and moves to a factory team (Álex Rins).
Some MotoGP2 champions move up to factory MotoGP rides, sometimes a MotoGP2 rider doesn't even win the championship and moves to a factory team (Álex Rins).
Alex Marquez scored no podiums in his first year of Moto 2 and only one second place in his second year. There were times when people questioned whether Alex belonged in Moto 2, especially on a premier team like Marc VDS. I am glad he was able to turn it around.
I think Alex should have moved up to the LCR Honda team. They could have promoted Nakagami or Crutchlow to the factory team with a 1 year contract. After that, Honda could have pursued Pol Espargaro or another rider if necessary. Crutchlow had been talking about retiring anyway. As of now, Nakagami looks more deserving of the factory seat.
#639
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https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...e-fix/4858935/
He took the restart following the horror shunt between his Petronas Yamaha teammate Franco Morbidelli and Johann Zarco from last, and recovered to eighth having just been pipped by Ducati's Danilo Petrucci on the run to the finish line.
However, he was hindered by the same braking issues at the restart despite his team changing "everything" on the bike, which left Quartararo to rue the loss of "easy points" because of the problem.
"[It was] really difficult because we had a technical problem during the first race and in the second," said Quartararo, whose championship lead has been cut to 11 points by race winner Andrea Dovizioso.
"In the first race we go straight on at corner four. I was there in fifth or sixth position, riding quite easy, but in the lap just before I started to feel the brake [going] soft.
"The lap just after, I braked in the same place as normal during all the weekend and my brake was actually like a clutch.
"I grabbed it by four fingers, trying to stop the bike, it was really dangerous.
"We decided to change everything and it was exactly the same in the second race.
"For 18 laps I was trying to do my best, trying to feel confident because sometimes when I was behind the riders I had no brakes, but when I was alone when I overtook Aleix [Espargaro].
"I had one second to Petrucci, I recovered [the gap] really fast.
"When I was alone it was ok, but still the confidence was not good.
"It's a shame because we can't [afford to] lose easy points like this because of a technical problem."
Quartararo admitted the podium was a stretch on Sunday, but still felt fourth "was our position" had it not been for his brake problems.
"Honestly, I can't say we were ready to fight for the podium because the three riders that finished on the podium were really fast," he added.
"It's never easy, but we had the pace to do the top five. I think fourth position was our position."
Quartararo says the only time he has had a brake issue with the Yamaha was during a daytime session in Qatar last year, and immediately after the Austria race began to look into solutions.
"We need to check, the team is working on it because it's not possible that during all last year and all this year, just in this race I have no brakes for the first time," he said.
"It was better to happen in free practice than in the race of course.
"But the team is looking for a solution - even me, I'm looking for a solution for the braking.
"I understand nothing about mechanical issues but I'm looking to help the team."
MotoGP championship leader Fabio Quartararo says his struggles in the Austrian Grand Prix were a result of a "dangerous" braking issue he'd never encountered before.
Quartararo started the original race from third on the grid, but dropped to last on lap six when he ran straight on at Turn 4, explaining his front brake "was like a clutch".He took the restart following the horror shunt between his Petronas Yamaha teammate Franco Morbidelli and Johann Zarco from last, and recovered to eighth having just been pipped by Ducati's Danilo Petrucci on the run to the finish line.
However, he was hindered by the same braking issues at the restart despite his team changing "everything" on the bike, which left Quartararo to rue the loss of "easy points" because of the problem.
"[It was] really difficult because we had a technical problem during the first race and in the second," said Quartararo, whose championship lead has been cut to 11 points by race winner Andrea Dovizioso.
"In the first race we go straight on at corner four. I was there in fifth or sixth position, riding quite easy, but in the lap just before I started to feel the brake [going] soft.
"The lap just after, I braked in the same place as normal during all the weekend and my brake was actually like a clutch.
"I grabbed it by four fingers, trying to stop the bike, it was really dangerous.
"We decided to change everything and it was exactly the same in the second race.
"For 18 laps I was trying to do my best, trying to feel confident because sometimes when I was behind the riders I had no brakes, but when I was alone when I overtook Aleix [Espargaro].
"I had one second to Petrucci, I recovered [the gap] really fast.
"When I was alone it was ok, but still the confidence was not good.
"It's a shame because we can't [afford to] lose easy points like this because of a technical problem."
Quartararo admitted the podium was a stretch on Sunday, but still felt fourth "was our position" had it not been for his brake problems.
"Honestly, I can't say we were ready to fight for the podium because the three riders that finished on the podium were really fast," he added.
"It's never easy, but we had the pace to do the top five. I think fourth position was our position."
Quartararo says the only time he has had a brake issue with the Yamaha was during a daytime session in Qatar last year, and immediately after the Austria race began to look into solutions.
"We need to check, the team is working on it because it's not possible that during all last year and all this year, just in this race I have no brakes for the first time," he said.
"It was better to happen in free practice than in the race of course.
"But the team is looking for a solution - even me, I'm looking for a solution for the braking.
"I understand nothing about mechanical issues but I'm looking to help the team."
#640
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I thought he just went in too hot & couldn't get it slowed. Didn't realize he was having brake issues.