Formula One: 2024 Season News and Discussion Thread
#321
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I'd say Massa was in the twilight of his F1 career, but Alonso
The Williams was a good car the first few years of the 2014+ regs, but was more & more outdeveloped by the other teams..
The Williams was a good car the first few years of the 2014+ regs, but was more & more outdeveloped by the other teams..
#322
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Egads. Doesn't look good at all.
#323
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The blue really doesn't flow with the Rosso Corsa. Need to see a few more angles, but it's at least better than the lime green MissionWinnow garbage from a few years ago.
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This image is ripe for some memes. I don't think there are enough HP logos. How about some on the arms and legs?
Seriously though, why is it so blurry? It makes it hard to read all the sponsor names.
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Oh man. I remember these.
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Red Bull design chief Adrian Newey is to leave the team in the wake of the controversy involving allegations about team principal Christian Horner.
Newey, regarded as the greatest Formula 1 designer in history, has told Red Bull he wants to move on, BBC Sport has learned.
The 65-year-old has been unsettled by the situation at Red Bull since Horner was accused of sexual harassment and coercive, abusive behaviour by a female employee, which Horner denies.
Red Bull and Newey did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The British design chief has been strongly linked with Ferrari and is known to have been made an offer by Aston Martin, but he is likely to be of interest to all leading teams now his availability is known.
Newey’s contract with Red Bull lasts until the end of 2025 but he is said to believe he can negotiate an exit that allows him to work with another team from next season.
Newey, regarded as the greatest Formula 1 designer in history, has told Red Bull he wants to move on, BBC Sport has learned.
The 65-year-old has been unsettled by the situation at Red Bull since Horner was accused of sexual harassment and coercive, abusive behaviour by a female employee, which Horner denies.
Red Bull and Newey did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The British design chief has been strongly linked with Ferrari and is known to have been made an offer by Aston Martin, but he is likely to be of interest to all leading teams now his availability is known.
Newey’s contract with Red Bull lasts until the end of 2025 but he is said to believe he can negotiate an exit that allows him to work with another team from next season.
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That is HUGE news, curious where Newey will go. Any team would gladly hire him, curious if he can overlook the Italian-management political culture at Ferrari or technonic culture of MB with Wolff. Even with former colleague Dan Fellows at AM, can't see him with Stroll's dad there.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/27219...-red-bull.html
I'd like to see Newey with Hamilton at Ferrari
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/27219...-red-bull.html
I'd like to see Newey with Hamilton at Ferrari
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Silly season this year
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I'd like to see Newey at Ferrari, but my money is on Aston Martin paying him a MONSTROUS amount.
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So with Newey there's perhaps a outside influence that may affect the decision in that Rory Bryne is still working at Ferrari . Bryne was design chief responsible for all of Michael Schmacher's WDC cars at Benneton and Ferrari, despite being 80 he's still part of teh design group. Bryne and Newey have known each other since the 80's as friends and competitors. Bryne is a introvert and Newey a extrovert but I suspect they've talked on what it's like to work at Ferrari
https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-enr...f-project-676/
https://scuderiafans.com/ferrari-enr...f-project-676/
#333
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Then, I'm sure all eyes go to whether Max stays with RBR or follows Newey
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Hulk to Sauber/Audi in 2025
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...MbJfKNMJ0e7b2p
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...MbJfKNMJ0e7b2p
Audi’s F1 CEO Andreas Seidl has made veteran Nico Hulkenberg his first signing, the German joining Sauber from next season before the team becomes the automotive giant’s works squad from 2026. F1 Correspondent Lawrence Barretto explains why…
Sources say Ferrari driver and three-time race winner Carlos Sainz is top of his shopping list, Seidl rating him highly having worked with the Spaniard for two seasons at McLaren in 2019 and 2020.
For the second seat, he has long been very keen on recruiting Hulkenberg – another driver he knows well, having run him at Porsche in the Le Mans 24 Hours, with the now 36-year-old winning the famous endurance race in his one-and-only attempt back in 2015.
Hulkenberg has impressed so far this season, scoring points in three of the first five Grands Prix, and his qualifying speed has been particularly strong.
His consistency across the board is exactly what Seidl needs as he looks to morph a Sauber team currently bottom of the constructors’ championship into a competitive outfit.
Audi are known to be keen to have at least one German driver in their debut line-up – and thus Hulkenberg ticked yet another box.
And while they wait on Sainz’s decision, signing Hulkenberg nice and early delivers some stability in the interim.
He was a super-sub for Racing Point/Aston Martin in 2020 and 2022, those performances so strong, he earned a recall to F1 via Haas for 2023 after three years out of a full-time race seat.
Though the 36-year-old will have been content if he hadn’t managed to come back full-time for F1, the form he’s displayed at Haas has given him the hunger to try to significantly extend his career in the sport.
With his contract up for renewal at the end of this season, Hulkenberg and his manager opened discussions with Sauber/Audi, who were keen to talk.
Simultaneously, he started discussions with Haas about staying for a third season – while sources say he had discussions with at least one other team.
Ultimately, Audi’s chase, the strong package they were able to offer him and the chance to race for a works manufacturer – and a German one to boot – was simply too good to turn down.
Everyone loves to be wanted, especially a driver who has previously been dumped.
And Hulkenberg has a lot of respect for Seidl, knowing what he achieved at Porsche from the inside and following his success story at revitalising McLaren from the outside.
At this stage of his career, Hulkenberg will know this will likely be his last contract in F1.
Hulkenberg has signed a multi-year deal, with options worked into the deal that are believed to offer him the opportunity to race for Audi into his 40s if the partnership works.
And aligning himself with such a prestigious brand leaves the door open for an ambassadorial role when he chooses to stop racing.
With all that in mind, this was a deal too good to turn down.
Audi have a plenty of options regarding his team mate
Should Sainz choose not to accept Audi’s advances, the German manufacturer has a flurry of options.
Sources say they are admirers of Esteban Ocon, who is managed by Mercedes and is currently outperforming team mate Pierre Gasly at Alpine.
Valtteri Bottas, who is in his third season with Sauber, also remains in the frame, as does his fellow incumbent Zhou Guanyu, the Chinese driver having stepped up his game this year.
However, they all face a waiting game as sources say Audi will wait longer on Sainz before making their next step.
Seidl is under no illusions about how much there is to do to ensure Audi hit the ground running when they enter F1 in 2026 with their own chassis and power unit combination – and therefore he was keen to have experienced drivers operating at a consistently high level in his cars.
Sources say Ferrari driver and three-time race winner Carlos Sainz is top of his shopping list, Seidl rating him highly having worked with the Spaniard for two seasons at McLaren in 2019 and 2020.
For the second seat, he has long been very keen on recruiting Hulkenberg – another driver he knows well, having run him at Porsche in the Le Mans 24 Hours, with the now 36-year-old winning the famous endurance race in his one-and-only attempt back in 2015.
Hulkenberg has impressed so far this season, scoring points in three of the first five Grands Prix, and his qualifying speed has been particularly strong.
His consistency across the board is exactly what Seidl needs as he looks to morph a Sauber team currently bottom of the constructors’ championship into a competitive outfit.
Audi are known to be keen to have at least one German driver in their debut line-up – and thus Hulkenberg ticked yet another box.
And while they wait on Sainz’s decision, signing Hulkenberg nice and early delivers some stability in the interim.
Hulkenberg’s Formula 1 career looked to be over when he left Renault at the end of the 2019 campaign, the German holding the unwanted record of most races started without a podium.
He was a super-sub for Racing Point/Aston Martin in 2020 and 2022, those performances so strong, he earned a recall to F1 via Haas for 2023 after three years out of a full-time race seat.
Though the 36-year-old will have been content if he hadn’t managed to come back full-time for F1, the form he’s displayed at Haas has given him the hunger to try to significantly extend his career in the sport.
With his contract up for renewal at the end of this season, Hulkenberg and his manager opened discussions with Sauber/Audi, who were keen to talk.
Simultaneously, he started discussions with Haas about staying for a third season – while sources say he had discussions with at least one other team.
Ultimately, Audi’s chase, the strong package they were able to offer him and the chance to race for a works manufacturer – and a German one to boot – was simply too good to turn down.
Everyone loves to be wanted, especially a driver who has previously been dumped.
And Hulkenberg has a lot of respect for Seidl, knowing what he achieved at Porsche from the inside and following his success story at revitalising McLaren from the outside.
At this stage of his career, Hulkenberg will know this will likely be his last contract in F1.
Hulkenberg has signed a multi-year deal, with options worked into the deal that are believed to offer him the opportunity to race for Audi into his 40s if the partnership works.
And aligning himself with such a prestigious brand leaves the door open for an ambassadorial role when he chooses to stop racing.
With all that in mind, this was a deal too good to turn down.
Audi have a plenty of options regarding his team mate
Should Sainz choose not to accept Audi’s advances, the German manufacturer has a flurry of options.
Sources say they are admirers of Esteban Ocon, who is managed by Mercedes and is currently outperforming team mate Pierre Gasly at Alpine.
Valtteri Bottas, who is in his third season with Sauber, also remains in the frame, as does his fellow incumbent Zhou Guanyu, the Chinese driver having stepped up his game this year.
However, they all face a waiting game as sources say Audi will wait longer on Sainz before making their next step.
#335
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Just got an email from COTA that they're changing the grandstands in the esses [T4] to now be covered seating.
Curiosity got me & I took a look.
Looks like the front half aren't considered 'covered' & are $625-700/per for 3 day. Not terrible, and around $200 more than we paid for the same seats in 2018
The rear half are marked as 'covered' and are $1200 each
Hard pass.
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While it was boiling hot when we were there in 2017, the cover wouldn't make a huge difference IMO.
We weren't uncomfortably hot even on race day with packed grandstands.
We weren't uncomfortably hot even on race day with packed grandstands.
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https://racer.com/2024/04/29/f1s-new...es-live-may-1/
Hmmm, will have to check it out. It appears to draw content from F1 TV and ESPN. Race replays will be delayed 5 days though.
Formula 1’s new 24/7 streaming channel in the United States will go live later this week ahead of this weekend’s Miami Grand Prix.
In an attempt to provide more content to the growing U.S. audience of F1 fans, the new channel, operated by C15 Studio, offers round-the-clock F1 content. The subscription-free channel is ad-supported, and will allow fans to watch “F1, F2, F3 and F1 Academy race replays and highlights, full reruns of classic grands prix, and popular racing documentaries”.
The channel will go live later this week and is being distributed via services including Amazon Freevee and Pluto TV, where it will go live on May 1, and Samsung TV Plus where it will launch on May 10.
In an attempt to provide more content to the growing U.S. audience of F1 fans, the new channel, operated by C15 Studio, offers round-the-clock F1 content. The subscription-free channel is ad-supported, and will allow fans to watch “F1, F2, F3 and F1 Academy race replays and highlights, full reruns of classic grands prix, and popular racing documentaries”.
The channel will go live later this week and is being distributed via services including Amazon Freevee and Pluto TV, where it will go live on May 1, and Samsung TV Plus where it will launch on May 10.
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Interesting.
Not enough for me to drop F1TV though.
Not enough for me to drop F1TV though.
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The impression I get is that all the content from F1TV will be on it, but live races will be tape delayed. If it is linear tv, it will be pretty useless though. Not sure I want to stay up at 1am so I can watch the 1985 Monaco GP.
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It's kinda fascinating how many supposedly can't stand each other.
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Adrian newey's red bull f1 departure imminent
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End of an era.
Wonder if there will be a drop in the RB performance.
Wonder if there will be a drop in the RB performance.
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From that link, 2 interesting points:
Sky Sports News understands Newey will not have to serve a period of gardening leave when he departs next year, leaving him free to join another Formula 1 team to help design their 2026 car.
Newey will not work on Red Bull's current F1 car for the rest of this season, instead putting his efforts into Red Bull's first hypercar, the RB17, before leaving Red Bull in early 2025.
Newey will not work on Red Bull's current F1 car for the rest of this season, instead putting his efforts into Red Bull's first hypercar, the RB17, before leaving Red Bull in early 2025.
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Fred Vasseur skipped the trip to Miami today and went to London instead, supposedly to meet Newey.
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https://racer.com/2024/05/01/u-s-con...-f1-situation/
US Congress write letter to Liberty demanding to know why Andretti-Cadillac's entry is denied by FOM. The new angle here is that European car makers in F1 (Mercedes, Audi, etc, are hindering Cadillac from being reintroduced to Europe. That's a perspective that no one has brought up before, which is an interesting strategy I guess.
US Congress write letter to Liberty demanding to know why Andretti-Cadillac's entry is denied by FOM. The new angle here is that European car makers in F1 (Mercedes, Audi, etc, are hindering Cadillac from being reintroduced to Europe. That's a perspective that no one has brought up before, which is an interesting strategy I guess.
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The antitrust angle is certainly an interesting one. I'm curious to see how that plays out.
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FOM was already at risk of being found guilty of being anticompetitive with Andretti in Europe. This was highlighted when the European Court of Justice found FIFA and UEFA breaching (open) competition laws in football back in December. So now we can add US antitrust laws to the mix.
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https://www.grandprix.com/news/stein...f1-return.html
Steiner sues Haas! Haas now being sued by both Mazepin and Steiner. They should make a show about this on Netflix.
Steiner sues Haas! Haas now being sued by both Mazepin and Steiner. They should make a show about this on Netflix.
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Senna | Official Teaser | Netflix
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Hoping for the best on that.
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That looks pretty good.
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Will be curious if much artistic license is taken with it.
The Senna documentary was really well done & if they can pretty much take that & stretch it out with some more detail & background, I'm game to give it a go.
And my 1970+ F1 binge has me right in peak Senna era [nearly done with 1990]
The Senna documentary was really well done & if they can pretty much take that & stretch it out with some more detail & background, I'm game to give it a go.
And my 1970+ F1 binge has me right in peak Senna era [nearly done with 1990]
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That McLaren looks so clean. What an era for cars. I'd take any car from the 1990 grid over any car on today's grid. Even the Minardi.
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The Leyton House was a looker too.
The early Benneton cars were the odd duck, with the humpback sidepods. Definitely made them stand out, similarly the Tyrell in 1990 with the non-continuous front wing.
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Pretty sure the Leyton House F1 car was Newey's first F1 design. He was a designer in IMSA first as I recall . . .
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March/Leyton House, who later fired him after the car's results declined through 1990.
Then on to Williams, McLaren & RBR
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The thought of Newey teaming up with Hamilton at Ferrari is very exciting if it happens . . . . .
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Considering his gardening leave, by the time he settles in at his new team, it could be 2027 before we see the next Newey car. He's going to be 68 by then. Not sure that's a great long tern strategy for whatever team is going to hire him.
Unlike when Newey was first hired, where a single guy could pretty much design an entire car, now it's a team of hundreds. The chief designer is more like a team manager at this point.
Unlike when Newey was first hired, where a single guy could pretty much design an entire car, now it's a team of hundreds. The chief designer is more like a team manager at this point.