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Old 08-24-2011, 02:09 PM
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The 'shakeout' is occurring to flush recent and particularly weak holders that have jumped on this bandwagon of late. If you have a time horizon longer than a month, I wouldn't be selling into this. There's a lot of anticipation that the Benank is going to save the day on stocks on Friday- but really what can he say and do? He's not God- QE3 is coming. I believe I predicted up to QE5 so QE3 is not a big surprise for me- he'll have a different name for it but it will be QE in form and practice.

Hit the snooze button on this position and wake up next month and you'll feel a lot better. I'm adding positions as I write this. SLV is just above its 50 day EMA and bounced already once off it- I think the 50 day at 38 is going to hold.
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Just for full-disclosure reasons, I intend to sell 1/2 my GLD (172.26) position possibly as soon as tomorrow.

I have achieved my long-term-gain objective having had this position since 8/6/10 and making a 47% return on it. The Point & Figure chart is at a double-bottom which is troubling. Experience tells me it's better to take profits and re-establish this position at a lower price entry point. I would love to see GLD get down to 152 and then I'm back in it with a full position again. I would then hold again for another year and see how I feel about things afterward, much like now.

So I'm still long-term bullish (why I still have 1/2 a position), but short-term bearish based on chart pattern only. Silver is in a much better chart pattern, so I'm still short & long term bullish on my SLV positions. SLV seems to be on a strong support level at current price of 40.00.

Things can always change with the Bernanke talk tomorrow, if gold rallies out of its current bearish pattern I'll hold this 1/2 position instead and ride it up to 185 and beyond.
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Gold Tumbles Most Since December 2008
Looks like it has just about recovered. I was hoping that the GLD would see 155 again. Owell.
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GLD (183.23) did a quick about-face in its downward price movement and now it's about to test its recent high at 184.82. I'm glad I still have 1/2 position and have some cash available if GLD takes a dive in the future.

In the mean time, I'm thinking about allocating my extra cash proceeds to GDX (64.91) (gold miners) instead since the miners are now moving too. The chart for GDX looks much stronger since the recent high at 64.05 was taken out pretty easily. I think 2.5x shares of GDX could outperform 1x GLD shares this next few months. I guess this is one way to diversify on the gold premise. The miners should move as the price of gold goes up because of their reserves underground are going up in value.
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Damn.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gold-S....html?x=0&.v=1

Gold and silver exchange traded funds were suffering losses of more than 2% on Thursday, breaking support trend lines from the summer rally in the process.

SPDR Gold Shares (NYSEArca: GLD - News) was down 2.2% in afternoon trading while iShares Silver Trust (NYSEArca: SLV - News) dropped 2.9%.

Precious metals were lower after the European Central Bank announced it is cooperating with other central banks to pump more liquidity into troubled financial markets.

Stocks were rising on improved sentiment over the Eurozone debt crisis and the possibility of a Greek default. [Gold and Silver ETFs Lower on Europe, Data]

Technical analysts pointed out that gold and silver ETFs were breaking rising support lines after gold recently formed a potential “double top” pattern. [Gold ETF Technical Analysis: Double Top?]
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I've cancelled my order for FMCC today and plan on getting into SLV while it's low but I'm not use to buying stocks at this price. Should I purchase if I can only afford 20 or so shares?

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Originally Posted by donnieb83
I've cancelled my order for FMCC today and plan on getting into SLV while it's low but I'm not use to buying stocks at this price. Should I purchase if I can only afford 20 or so shares?
With that amount of money, I would recommend buying some bullion instead. You could buy about 15 silver rounds from bulliondirect and hold them instead and the best part of this is the commission is % based so you could split your purchase up into a couple of days/weeks time in case you buy and the prices drop a little more.

I use SLV for technical analysis and the bullion prices correlate closely to SLV in many ways. Here's the deal with SLV:

SLV at 38.88 is just below a significant support level of 39.02. I allow a stock to penetrate a support level up to 3% before getting concerned- so that means that SLV could get down to 37.85 and still be 'supported' by the 50 day Exp Moving Average number I gave at 39.02.

So... if you have a little bit of money to invest, I would average in since nobody can predict a bottom in prices. Silver and gold are going to be pretty volatile now but I know you'll be happy with your purchase by this time next year.
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Thanks for your reply. I checked out bullion direct and read through their site and plan on opening up an account. Also what do you think about IAU? Thanks again with the good info!
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^ I think IAU would be a good way to get into some gold positions. I would need to study the prospectus on this one since I usually go with GLD. I did notice that IAU has a lower expense ratio than GLD so I might be switching to IAU in the future too.

Looks like the IAU at $17.63 is near a (hopefully ultimate) support level that would be 97% of the 50 day EMA of 16.99 or 16.48- just above the next support 100 day EMA of 16.13. I like these prospects of a floor in gold prices being near.
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SLV is down over 7% today.

You guys can thank me. It's lost money every day since I bought it!
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And down down we go......
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I'm not too worried...the whole market may see -500 today and will likely rebound tomorrow.

I try to keep telling myself that I need to look long term, but that's hard to do sitting in front of a computer all day and watching all my investments tank.
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I must admit I'm surprised to see gold going down almost as much as stocks today. I thought gold was the safe haven? Looks like peeps piling into bonds again.

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^ Yep- it's a great time to buy as people are selling for different reasons. Margin calls could be one reason for selling but probably a minor one. I'm hearing stuff on CNBC about the French selling gold. I bought the SIL (miners i-share), have orders for .1 oz Gold Eagles, and 1oz silver Rounds- hopefully these bullion orders will be hitting today or tomorrow.

SLV = 34.96
GLD = 169.10

Silver Rounds (SIB999:0001:R)= 37.00 since my order just fired- yippee!
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SLV is down significantly today as well. Any idea's where the bottom is? Should we be buying more?
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For SLV (31.95) the daily chart shows support now with the May lows being retested. Every test and bounce to the upside only strengthens the technical support for SLV or any stock for that matter. A weekly chart confirms this support with 33.90 being the 50 week EMA and 28.08 being the 100 week EMA so SLV is right between these values now. I allow a 3% penetration of support. I also use closing prices to make decisions on things too.

So... SLV is below a support level for the 50 but the 100 day Exp Moving Average is still very much in position for support. With that in mind my 'bottom' could be 28ish for SLV if the 100 day gets tested. This level has been tested many times and SLV bounced off and up each time the last 2.5 years. I see this time as being no different.
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Your insight is very much appreciated!

When I purchased @ 41.15, I told myself I would hold it for a year. Something I have rarely done in the past, excluding mutuals/401k, etc... Hopefully in august 2012, we are in the 5x.xx range.

Here's keeping my fingers crossed.

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^thanks. I just bought some more SLV at 30.01 for what it's worth. I'm a long-term holder and when I see a 14% haircut in one day- it's time to buy especially at these price support levels.
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Gold going to continue to go up?
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I found this an interesting read today:

http://etfdailynews.com/2011/12/05/j...-pslv-agq-zsl/

While the silver price (NYSEARCA:SLV) moves higher with the gold price (NYSEARCA:GLD) during this latest consolidation phase in the bull market for precious metals, Goldmoney’s James Turk expects another violent move higher for the metals, especially the price of silver.

“This move [in the silver price] is going to catch a lot of people by surprise as evidenced by the extremely low sentiment readings,” Turk told King World News, Monday, pointing to the lack of overall enthusiasm in the precious metals market of late, with a relatively steep contango in the silver futures market chain serving to support his thesis. “Those low readings are a clear indication that there is a lot of money on the sidelines that is waiting to jump on board.”

Such low sentiment readings and steep contango prices in the silver futures haven’t been seen since the first quarter of 2010, when problems in the Greek sovereign debt market first emerged. At that time, fears of another Lehman event, this time from Europe, took the DJIA sharply lower from its intermediate post-crash peek of 11,250, down to 9,600, a nearly 15 percent correction in the 30 Industrials.

In contrast, after trading between the $15 and $18 range during a nine-month period of September 2009 and June 2010, the silver price climbed higher in the face of a risk-off-then-risk-on-again trade in stocks of 2010 as the white metal never looked back, soaring to just shy of $50, from the $15 base of the previous flagpole pattern.

The tremendous rally in the silver price took Wall Street by surprise, as any asset rising this rapidly typically begets a much wider audience beyond the silver bug watchers. That contrarian signal suggested to legendary commodities investor Jim Rogers that the silver price would need to “settle down” before he’d become a buyer again. The weak hands had taken over the silver market.

But as the silver bugs remember, all too well, the steep and dramatic drop in the silver price to $25 sent the weak hands to slaughter, as a series of five margin hikes compound the pressure of a rapidly falling market to sell into the hands of the strong.

“During a big correction like the one we’ve just gone through, a lot of weak hands get shaken out of the market,” said Turk. “We know that has happened because of the change in open interest and also because of the smaller volumes of late.”

Today, the situation has reversed direction, according to Turk. Silver futures are back in contango and Jim Rogers is talking about silver once again. Moreover, as the crisis in Europe escalates, Europe’s new ECB chief, Goldman Sachs alumnus Mario Draghi is now printing approximately 30 percent more than the Fed is—and the European central bank needs to print more, and could get some needed help from the Fed, according to zerohedge.com.

“Throughout history, when things have gone wrong, they [central banks] print money … when they print money, you should own silver, you should own rice, you should own real assets,” Rogers said in an interview with CNBC of Nov. 23. See BER article.

Back to Turk, who said he’s calculated a target for the silver price during the upcoming next leg higher. By taking the April 2011 high and subtracting the September 2009 and June 2010 base price—a common and fairly successful technique applied in the use of technical analysis—Turk expects the next move higher will achieve an all-time record price for the metal.

“The first we have already spoken about, namely the bullish flag pattern on the weekly silver chart (above). When silver breaks out to the upside, this flag measures to a target price of around $68 to $70,” Turk explained. “More importantly, the jump out of the flag should happen more quickly than the $18 to $50 move we saw back in 2010 and early 2011, which took about nine months.”
Any thoughts? Time to buy some more?
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Down down we go
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Took a little beating, but I see that as a buying opportunity. See too much instability in the Euro and the Dollar.
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Looks like it has just about recovered. I was hoping that the GLD would see 155 again. Owell.
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This gold was created in a supernova? o.O
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Gold has certainly corrected the last couple of weeks. I was in Germany this last week and didn't get to stay on top of the markets like I'm use to and my did gold correct this week. I did take note that the Europeans seem divided in how they are going to tackle their issues and that is not going to help the Euro. Once the European drama ends, I expect drama to shift to the U.S. and it's not like we don't have problems either. As both Euro and Dollar currencies fall, safe money will gravitate to either the next 'safe' currency or commodities like gold and silver.

I use GLD (i-share) for technicals on gold in general and it is currently at 155.23 and below its 200 day EMA of 157.45. I use 97% of the 200 day EMA as 'ultimate' support and that stands at $152.73. I'll be betting with my wallet that this support level holds in this downtrend.

For those interested in silver, the SLV chart pattern actually shows weakness. SLV is now trading at 28.85 and well below its 200 day EMA of 33.17 with the 97% value being 32.17. I think SLV has really over-corrected and could be the commodity that snaps back in vigor when things go back to a bullish stance. It looks like 27.41 is ultimate support so there is still $1.44 downside risk left for SLV based on the September low set. At the time of the low, the price of SLV vaulted 10-20% 2 months afterwards. I will also be adding positions to SLV this next week as well.
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Originally Posted by LaCostaRacer
It looks like 27.41 is ultimate support so there is still $1.44 downside risk left for SLV based on the September low set. At the time of the low, the price of SLV vaulted 10-20% 2 months afterwards. I will also be adding positions to SLV this next week as well.
Oh oh. Just dropped below that $27.41 support... now at $26.52.

Haven't seen this level since late Jan.

Over sold due to people trying to stay positive for the year?
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Interesting article...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3163...d?source=yahoo

Silver keeps breaking down. While this is a frustrating trend for those allocated to the white metal, it is far more disconcerting for the stock market outlook.

The fundamental thesis for owning silver (SLV) certainly has not changed, which is hard asset protection against aggressive monetary stimulus, pricing instability and currency debasement. If anything, this thesis has actually strengthened in recent weeks, as the situation remains tenuous in Europe and the global monetary printing presses are now either running full steam (the ECB) or set to crank up at a moment's notice (the Fed).

Ever since U.S. policy makers moved toward a weak dollar policy in early 2002, silver has performed exceedingly well. Over the past decade, the price of silver has consistently risen to post a total gain of nearly +600%. And while it endured a few short-lived fits along the way that come with the territory of owning silver, only once did it experience a sustained and prolonged pullback of any notable magnitude. And it was this past episode that may be telling of what might be lurking around the corner for stocks as we enter the New Year.

At present, silver is trading at a price that is both -10% below its 50-day moving average and -20% below its 200-day moving average. This has essentially been the case since right before Christmas on December 14.

Only once in the last decade has silver shown a similar degree of weakness. After moving sharply higher throughout much of the first half of 2008, silver began breaking down in August 2008. By August 15, silver was trading more than -10% below its 50-day moving average and -20% below its 200-day moving average. Starting only a month later, Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy, Washington Mutual failed, liquidity markets seized up and the stock market entered into the first of three cascading declines in early October.

The fact that silver is acting in a similar fashion today is a troubling sign. First, we have seen persist indications that liquidity markets have been seizing up in recent weeks, particularly in Europe. Also, Italy is facing several major sovereign debt refinancings starting next month, which may be difficult to complete with 10-year Italian government bond yields still hovering around 7% despite already extraordinary assistance and during the relative quiet of the end of December trading week. In addition, the potential also looms for the failure of a major financial institution that could spark the similar contagion effects that we witnessed in 2008. And unlike Lehman in 2008 and more like Credit-Anstalt in 1931, global policy makers may lack the firepower to squelch the blaze this time around. These are just a few of the many risks overhanging the market at present.

With all of this being said, perhaps the weakness in silver this time around is just an isolated event. But the fact that it is occurring during a period of similar global financial stress should be noted and monitored closely at a minimum as we move into the New Year.

Given the potential risks, investors may be well served to use recent market strength to dial down risk exposures in their stock allocations. And it may be best to concentrate any remaining positions in higher quality defensive names with U.S. focused businesses. Included among these are J.M. Smuckers (SJM) and WGL Holdings (WGL), both of which held up considerably better than the overall stock market during the 2008 crisis.

Looking beyond stocks, U.S. Treasuries continue to provide an attractive safe haven. This includes U.S. Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (TIP), which provide a safety destination during periods of crisis as well as protection against any inflationary concerns over rampant money printing in the months ahead.

On the topic of further monetary stimulus, Agency MBS (MBB) also offer appeal as it is the likely focus of any QE3 program initiated by the U.S. Federal Reserve. Lastly, gold (GLD, IAU, PHYS) and silver (SLV) provide both a potential safe haven against crisis as well as potentially strong upside in the event of further aggressive global monetary policy actions. And since both appear to be leading indicators of the potential shocks ahead for the stock market, the downside moves in these precious metals may also be entering the advanced stages at this time.

This post is for information purposes only. There are risks involved with investing including loss of principal. Gerring Wealth Management (GWM) makes no explicit or implicit guarantee with respect to performance or the outcome of any investment or projections made by GWM. There is no guarantee that the goals of the strategies discussed by GWM will be met.

Disclosure: I am long SLV, SJM, WGL, TIP, MBB, GLD.
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Yes- SLV (27.07) has corrected more than I would have guessed this time. Perhaps today was the capitulation trading day I was hoping for before going more long. Today was interesting because SLV opened weak and remained weak for much of the morning- hitting a low of 25.65. The last couple hours of trading reversed and SLV closed near its high of 27.11. This trading was all on higher than average volume: 26.6M shares traded in which the last week's average was 21M so today's up closing is significant to me anyway.

We'll see if there is some follow-through tomorrow- futures are mixed tonight but COMEX is up so that is promising.

The irony was that I sold 5% of my position this morning when SLV was down .30 thinking I would buy that position again in January on lower prices. When it started climbing 10 minutes after I sold, I thought Murphy's law was happening which is great because of my remaining 90% long position. Oh well- I capitulated and I'm sure lots of people did the last two weeks as well. Should be an interesting 2012.
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I have been buying DGP for a couple of years now. It's leveraged for twice the move of gold, up or down. I am very long on gold and I see no reason it would turn in a bear market. Right now the fundamentals are all pointing towards gold 2500 dollars an ounce before this year is over.
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I ain't selling none of my gold. The UHR are crazy... silver the 25th ann. set is crazy.

But I'm not buying any either. Too high in the sky. I moving into crap like collectors pens and watches.
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$1700 oz....nice jump!

Thank you, Uncle Ben.
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SLV got a much needed $1.29 bump today as well.
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I just bought back 1/2 of a position in the Gold i-share GLD (now at 167.25) that I sold in August at 173.50. I think both gold and silver are going to rumble to new highs this year. I have a medium term price target of $184 at the moment on this holding with decent support at $156. I like those odds: $2 potential gain for a possible $1 loss.

Bernanke's statement about interest rates remaining low is a key reason for an increase in prices for gold and silver too. I have a much higher exposure to the SLV i-share so it's time to balance things more with GLD.

I also hold bullion, but the i-shares are what I trade when I see short/mid term movements in order. I haven't sold bullion in 30 years, but buy/sell the i-shares frequently for generating trading income. Mostly because I can enter/leave a position for under $10.

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Big pullback today on GLD and SLV

Hmmm.....
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^^ No worries. It was just a temporary knee jerk reaction to Uncle Ben putting the temporary kabosh on QE3, 4, 5, 6, 7, .......
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^^ No worries. It was just a temporary knee jerk reaction to Uncle Ben putting the temporary kabosh on QE3, 4, 5, 6, 7, .......


It'll shoot right back up to $1800 very soon
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SLV at $33.76 is just above a number of moving averages at 33 & 32 so it is at a MAJOR support level. If it hangs on at these levels for a week or so it will be an excellent buying time for those of you on the fence for when to get in or not. I plan on adding more positions as well. This week's action is just a normal and healthy pull back- even at today's levels SLV has made a BIG move over 2011 closing price level of 25.65.

Nothing has really changed positively with the economics of the situation since most of the major currencies have inflated via money printing. One could argue that the increase in oil prices will cause some rapid inflationary affects much like what happened in the '70s. Time will tell.
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If war breaks out in Iran and the U.S. gets involved, the Fed will have to print more $$$.....because we have no $$$ to finance any wars.

It's all the Fed can do.....then watch the commodities rise.
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Well I decided to buy a few coins today, gold will soon go back up


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