mvl

Crazy how the S2000 never dies.

- When I needed a replacement cruise control button for my RSX, I was able to find the part at a Honda dealer from the S2000.
- When I needed touch up paint for my Long Beach Blue RDX PMC, I was able to find the exact paint code at a Honda dealer from the S2000 CR.
- And now if someone wants the titanium ITS knob they can get it from the S2000.

Some engineer at Honda must be really nostalgic for that car.

Tony Pac

C Class: 2.9K units for June and 16K YTD. Excellent numbers. Their new C class is selling well based on these numbers.
@ELIN

Tony Pac

Updating with CLA numbers:
MB CLA: 5K units

Integra, all the way! No car came even close...Almost 2X-3X higher sales compared to the competition.

Legend2TL

Tony Pac

A new review by one of our Canadian journalists:
*I haven't watch the video yet, so hope it's useful and informative. This guy is solid!

JM2010 SH-AWD

Here's a nice (glowing) impression of the ITS from Autoblog.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/09/18/...e-s-road-test/

Shadow2056

Maybe its a different type customer that goes looking for the Cadillac, Audi, and Mercedes. A lot of folks go into Acura/Honda wanting to buy cars that's higher than they can afford. Mercedes and Audi aren't going to get that type customer as often as Honda/Acura would.

But I mean if all of that is taken into consideration already, then props to Acura for the crazy high numbers for it.

ELIN

While this is true, the Honda roots does have a price. Did you hear about all the Canadian Hondas/Acuras being stolen and shipped to Ghana?

Acura doesn't have enough of a differentiator in their keyfob tech to stymie the flow of thefts and harkens back to when KIA was one of the few car makes w/o ignition kill!
I'm genuinely curious if auto insurance for Acura cars has steadily gone up.

fiatlux

Remember when Civics, Accords, and Integras were the most stolen cars in the country? It's like the 90s again

ELIN

I just need "In Living Color" to come back and then I'm all set!

Tony Pac

Unfortunately, I don’t have any other data or stats, except sales numbers. All I can say, Acura nailed it with the Intégra and killing it! Over a year now and not a single bad month! It’s very impressive to beat BMW, MB and Audi!

Finally, don’t forget the margin must be very high since the car is built on civic platform.

Tony Pac

I can confirm that my premium for 2020 MDX and 2010 TL went down by $33/month compared to last year. I had no claims or tickets and my daily driving went from 15,000Km per year to 20,000. So far no impact. However, my colleague's premium went up by almost $25/month for his Volvo XC90.

We just started talking about the Canadian auto-theft in the last week or so here. This is not new and has been always high but since 2020, it has been increased. And I am paying every year slightly lower premium.

Shadow2056

True indeed. I haven't really heard anything bad about the Integra except for the "purist" mad it's not a coupe. Lol! But other than that, sales for it or up there.

Tony Pac

Usually those "Purists" don't buy anyway....lol! They wait until the car is 5 years old and then they buy it secondhand. Acura has done their homework and market study.....a few people won't make a difference

Twism86

Those people know they made a 4-door Integra back in the 90s too, right? LOL

Shadow2056

True again.

I put "purist" in quotations because they say they are but have zero clue there was a 4dr and even a 4dr hatchback Integra. they just bent on getting a 2dr that they wouldn't even buy.

Tony Pac

I was very happy to see when you put Purist in quotation. I always put "True Enthusiasts" These terms are totally BS and most of these people don't have money to buy...It's all talk. These people are the leader of 5-10 year old car market!

jhb31

The majority of people do not want to charge their car multiple times a week if not every day. I know several people with model 3's and they all have an ICE vehicle as well. Frankly where I am the model 3 is a dime a dozen out here. It's also pretty spartan inside and who wants to go through a touch screen for pretty much everything? Most tesla drivers I see on the road drive super conservative (must be trying to get every mile out of the charge). The 0-60 time on the ITS leaves something to be desired. Acura design makes the car "look" fast but the performance never matches the looks. The car only weighs like 3200 lbs. How could they not get a better 0-60 time out of their performance variant of the integra. Remember also the S3 is just the mid level performance model of the Audi 3 series which makes the ITS performance seem even weaker.

ELIN

This is one of the "blind spots" in AZ. So many members are constantly comparing the German performance models against the Type S version and don't realize that even the base German trims can outgun an "S"!

Someone was comparing the MDX Type S against the X5 M60i or MC when the xDrive40i would have been closer in price and faster still!

I get if you don't want to deal w/maintenance or repair on German cars out of warranty but if you are only leasing, then at least BMW maintenance is covered for the typical 3 year lease (Acura only covers for 2).
As established above, the monthly payments might even be similar.

fiatlux

Is this a rhetorical question or are you being serious? It’s not rocket science; this car is mechanically a CTR, which is FWD. FWD cars are never going to have good 0-60 numbers. That said, the ITS/CTR will run circles around the S3 at the track (RS3, not so much, but that’s at a totally different price point). Remember, performance isn’t only about 0-60; if it was then EVs will dominate all.

jhb31

Nobody is taking an integra to the track. Pretty much every audi S model has multiple tunes available at pretty reasonable cost that awill bring it close to or at RS performance. A lot of people do it and the powertrain on the S models handle the extra power from the tune quite well. EV's aside a relatively slow car compared to it's competition isn't exactly screaming performance to me. Thewit base model 3 is no speed demon either. You need to opt for performance upgrade if you want to access the power. It's still a model 3 which is a pretty boring car inside and out.
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fiatlux

We’ll have to agree to disagree. The ITS is a slightly more comfortable CTR with 99% of the same DNA. I see plenty of CTRs at the track so why wouldn’t we see the same with the ITS, considering track performance from the magazines has been nearly identical.

Tony Pac

Very impressive data to share with potential buyers and owners.

• Integra sales top 24,000 units in first 9 months with nearly three times the retail sales of nearest competitor.
• Integra captures an incredible 40% of sales in premium compact class, creating the vast majority of the segment’s growth.

Well done Acura! Now bring us RDX TPYPE S to capture the 50% of the market

JM2010 SH-AWD

I said after our May '22 test drive that they'd sell as many of these as they could make. It's so much better than its competitors, as the market has recognized. Acura has to be very pleased with its decision to launch the Integra. .

JM2010 SH-AWD

Just watched a video last night of a pretty good driver in a new '24 A Spec hanging with a Miata and a Mustang on a track day. So I guess at least someone is interested in tracking their non-ITS Integra (although I am certain the ITS would be the vastly superior track day car).

Tony Pac

Honda/Acura is probably laughing at those who gave a thumbs down a year ago to Integra reveal lol! Acura nailed it with Teggy....

DJ Iceman

https://www.acura.com/motorsports?de...oin-the-legacy

evident

I'm almost certain this is going to be my next car and i will be getting it brand new at MSRP if i can. torn between this or a used Cayenne E-hybrid.

ELIN

It'll certainly be a great catch if you know how to drive a stick!

Tony Pac

An awesome review. A must watch!
These guys did a great job with this review. Although, they forgot to mention that the Type S sells 3X more than the Audi A/S3 but we will forgive them for producing an informative video. The last 5 min of the video (summary) is a killer!!!

Tony Pac

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/4...st-review/amp/

NwTSXmt

when I want to go fast I'll just drive my Nissan...The ITS is a perfect daily driver for me...

neuronbob

Uhhhhh….

jhb31

I stand corrected, I see you found a couple. I can see the CTR being taking it to the track as it would be a terrible daily driver.

neuronbob

I will say, the ITS serves its purpose in my garage. I insist on some amount of entertainment in my daily drivers. It is fun to drive even on short trips. I will likely not take mine to the track, but a number of ITS owners I know do, and it’s pretty competent. It’s a great one-car solution for a car dude with a family or who needs interior space. It does need better side bolsters in the seats, though.

I have several friends who daily their CTR, too. Their only complaint, if they have any, is about the suspension being rough on bad city roads. It's pretty good other than that, and if they run in Comfort mode. Of course, the answer to that is the ITS if it were truly uncomfortable. Full disclosure, though: I drive mine in Sport mode 95% of the time, and the remainder in Sport Plus if the roads allow for it and I feel like hearing the crackles.

jhb31

Grain of salt. Acura litteraly has two sedans to choose from. Most of the "competition" has multiple sedan offerings Audi has 5 sedans and even coupe offerings with multiple levels of performance for each model, BMW likewise . If you're an Acura buyer it's an Integra or TLX or an Accord or Civic for the value people. The integra is also a new model while the other "competition" models have been around for a long time. Not raining on the parade but context is important. Although anyone paying north of 50k for an integra to me is crazy.

ESHBG

Not disagreeing with your overall point but sharing that Audi is trimming down their ICE line and the A5 coupe/cabriolet and A4 sedan are being discontinued, the A4 is now "part of" the redesigned A5 Sportback:

https://jalopnik.com/we-spied-the-ne...ack-1851040701

The future A4 will be electric and I like their change of even number in the name = electric and odd number = ICE.

jhb31

I know they have decided to go pretty much half EV very soon, at least I think. Not at all happy on the govt basicly deciding what people can and cannot buy. The charging network nationally is way behind the push to get people to give up their ICE vehicles. Nevermind the fact that much of the electric used to charge is from fossil fuels, the carbon impact of producting them is way higher than ICE vehicles and some tesla super-charging stations use desiel generaters to charge the cars, I am not making this up. When something is better people will buy it without thousands of taxpayer subsidies thrown in to make it appealing.

As for the coupe going away I was not all that happy to hear that. I am on the fence to get a 2024 S5 to replace mine but outside of some minor non-performance related changes it's pretty much the same exact car as I have now so not sure if I want to drop close to 75k (all in with taxes) to get almost the same car I already have but I very well may go that route as it's been the most enjoyable car I have owned and I much prefer the look of a coupe over a 4 dr every single day of the week. Not practical for a family car but if you are not hauling more than one passenger and have another vehicle for the occasions where you need a few extra seats, it's just fine. I think honda is also nixing the civic coupe as well or maybe they already did. Then again they have the electric prelude coupe talk going on so who knows where things go with coupes. If the ITS ever evolves into a coupe I would be down with a test drive on that, having a manual again may be some fun and kudos for acura for bringing the manual back.

18TLXAspec

Agreed, consumers don't want them and in all honestly they really just seem like a gimmick! Our electric grid cannot realistically support a significant shift to electric vehicles (EVs) unless consumers in states other than CA are ok w/ rolling blackouts. The gov't seems to be rolling out mpg requirements that are at best a pipe dreams seemingly with the goal of forcing manufacturers to heavily invest in a minimally, if at all, profitable transition to electric while also causing an increase in the pricing of ICE vehicles to be more on par with, or higher than, EVs. If I'm to believe some of the dialogue, they're making us more reliant on countries which, at the very least, don't have our best interests in mind and create more pollution mining and processing the materials for EV batteries even though we have resources we could mine and process via cleaner processes creating less pollution all the while making us less reliant on said countries, but I digress.

Here's an interesting article on what consumers apparently really want.
https://www.nysun.com/article/auto-d...ctric-vehicles

mec30

Anyone had a chance to drive the CT4-V (the turbo charged one, not the Blackwing) back to back with the Type S? I'm curious about what you though if you cross-shopped them.