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#201
It is good for the brand to see this demand level. Hopefully it is something they can ramp production up on, if my math was close and there really was only 1000 allocation given to dealers in 2023, they would need a huge assembly line reassignment to get anywhere near 10000 demand.
I never learned to drive a manual, so not in the market for this, but did reserve a CVT tech on Turo for a business trip in a month, would be fun to experience the Integra a little bit. My RSX just got out of winter hibernation and it was fun to drive it the past few days. Would have been the first in the prorder line for the Integra if they had a 2-door. With these ITS demand levels, maybe the dream isn't completely dead that Ikeda can convince Honda corporate to greenlight a 2door.
I never learned to drive a manual, so not in the market for this, but did reserve a CVT tech on Turo for a business trip in a month, would be fun to experience the Integra a little bit. My RSX just got out of winter hibernation and it was fun to drive it the past few days. Would have been the first in the prorder line for the Integra if they had a 2-door. With these ITS demand levels, maybe the dream isn't completely dead that Ikeda can convince Honda corporate to greenlight a 2door.
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I highly doubt if Acura will ever bring a 2 door version. I am very grateful that Acura actually built the amazing TLX and Teggy along with the Type S versions. This is already HUGE!!!! And Teggy in MANUAL. This is simply WOW WOW WOW! That's why there are thousands of people that are willing to pay the big bucks to get a Teggy TYPE S. Imagine, mega car manufactures don't invest in manual and Acura with its size went ahead and impress the world with their decision.
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Congrats to all that pre-ordered the car! I was thinking about pre-ordering one just for the sake of getting to see and sit in the car, until I found white was not available. While looking at the ITS webpage, I noticed the shift knob is all-metal like CTR, but in the official interior video, the shift knob is partially leather wrapped like the old TSX/TL. I wonder which one is the final version?
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Congrats to all that pre-ordered the car! I was thinking about pre-ordering one just for the sake of getting to see and sit in the car, until I found white was not available. While looking at the ITS webpage, I noticed the shift knob is all-metal like CTR, but in the official interior video, the shift knob is partially leather wrapped like the old TSX/TL. I wonder which one is the final version?
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I love the look of this car. I bought my 2021 CTR new. I was watching videos about the ITS the other day and my wife looked at me and said "you'd really give up the CTR for that?" That is the real question. I think for me it would be more for creature comforts rather than driving experience.
I should stay away from this thread now that I think about it.
I should stay away from this thread now that I think about it.
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I love the look of this car. I bought my 2021 CTR new. I was watching videos about the ITS the other day and my wife looked at me and said "you'd really give up the CTR for that?" That is the real question. I think for me it would be more for creature comforts rather than driving experience.
I should stay away from this thread now that I think about it.
I should stay away from this thread now that I think about it.
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It is good for the brand to see this demand level. Hopefully it is something they can ramp production up on, if my math was close and there really was only 1000 allocation given to dealers in 2023, they would need a huge assembly line reassignment to get anywhere near 10000 demand.
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As an sales consultant of Honda, I'm not a fan of the addendums too much. Like, we have a "protection package" that adds $3900 to the MSRP. I'm 50/50 on it. I don't like them because it's 1. An objection we already have to deal with when customers ask about it and say "I don't want it." There's no "Well we can get one from a truck we have coming in" like it used to be. Now every new car has it. 2. You're putting people $4k over(that's $80-100 in payment for some). Now when they come back in 2-4yrs, they're 4k upside down. And of course you're not gonna give them that $4k back.
I'm for it because it's helping recoup money. Our dealership used to sell 250-300 cars a month. Now we're down to 120-150 both new AND used. We don't do "market adjustment" where we're charging you $4k and giving you absolutely nothing for it but the ability to buy the car. THAT is the part I don't like. Seeing dealers charging "market adjustment". Now the people the car was originally meant for, it's no longer in their budget. Honda/Acura need to get their dealers to understand something: People might like the ITS and CTR but unless they're making $100k/.yr and have extra money to spend, no one is going to want to spend $60k on a CTR and $70-80k on a ITS. Especially when you can get cars that completely out rank, out drive, and over power both of those cars for the same or less.
I'm for it because it's helping recoup money. Our dealership used to sell 250-300 cars a month. Now we're down to 120-150 both new AND used. We don't do "market adjustment" where we're charging you $4k and giving you absolutely nothing for it but the ability to buy the car. THAT is the part I don't like. Seeing dealers charging "market adjustment". Now the people the car was originally meant for, it's no longer in their budget. Honda/Acura need to get their dealers to understand something: People might like the ITS and CTR but unless they're making $100k/.yr and have extra money to spend, no one is going to want to spend $60k on a CTR and $70-80k on a ITS. Especially when you can get cars that completely out rank, out drive, and over power both of those cars for the same or less.
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As an sales consultant of Honda, I'm not a fan of the addendums too much. Like, we have a "protection package" that adds $3900 to the MSRP. I'm 50/50 on it. I don't like them because it's 1. An objection we already have to deal with when customers ask about it and say "I don't want it." There's no "Well we can get one from a truck we have coming in" like it used to be. Now every new car has it. 2. You're putting people $4k over(that's $80-100 in payment for some). Now when they come back in 2-4yrs, they're 4k upside down. And of course you're not gonna give them that $4k back.
I'm for it because it's helping recoup money. Our dealership used to sell 250-300 cars a month. Now we're down to 120-150 both new AND used. We don't do "market adjustment" where we're charging you $4k and giving you absolutely nothing for it but the ability to buy the car. THAT is the part I don't like. Seeing dealers charging "market adjustment". Now the people the car was originally meant for, it's no longer in their budget. Honda/Acura need to get their dealers to understand something: People might like the ITS and CTR but unless they're making $100k/.yr and have extra money to spend, no one is going to want to spend $60k on a CTR and $70-80k on a ITS. Especially when you can get cars that completely out rank, out drive, and over power both of those cars for the same or less.
I'm for it because it's helping recoup money. Our dealership used to sell 250-300 cars a month. Now we're down to 120-150 both new AND used. We don't do "market adjustment" where we're charging you $4k and giving you absolutely nothing for it but the ability to buy the car. THAT is the part I don't like. Seeing dealers charging "market adjustment". Now the people the car was originally meant for, it's no longer in their budget. Honda/Acura need to get their dealers to understand something: People might like the ITS and CTR but unless they're making $100k/.yr and have extra money to spend, no one is going to want to spend $60k on a CTR and $70-80k on a ITS. Especially when you can get cars that completely out rank, out drive, and over power both of those cars for the same or less.
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A great summary of Tegyy TYPE S: https://jalopnik.com/2024-acura-inte...red-1850556633
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I think this captures the essence of the ITS (and its lesser cousin, the 1.5 Integra). These cars will hardly win any keyboard spec-sheet show-downs. What they both will do (1.5 and 2.0) is provide a joy of driving that is missing from most cars today, including a lot of lower trim BMWs. The shifting with the 6MT is sublime (and I'll confess, I leave rev match on because it's really good). The steering feel and grip are very good. With the 6MT, the cars' LSD pulls you out of turns as the turbo spools up to peak torque. They are just a blast to drive in an automotive world that is quickly turning to four-wheeled appliances.
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Dealers aren't really going to go anywhere unless they go to a Tesla type thing. Buy online. Show up at dealer for delivery. Only part is, doing that cuts out any possibility of people with less than stellar credit getting a loan. I've gotten people done with bad credit that their credit union wouldn't touch.
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Checked out ITS in person, and what a lovely, good looking car it is - looks very cohesive, and screams performance in all the details. Made me want to drive it away, even though I am not in the market. Had a short chat with salesperson, but did not bother asking numbers - negotiable markup as usual is what I know. No test drive as the demo car was sold already.
Congrats to Acura, well executed and a true winner. No excuses needed!
Congrats to Acura, well executed and a true winner. No excuses needed!
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Acura really did their homework with Teggy and Teggy TYPE S. Also, we have to give Acura team credit for their consistent great work of delivering one car better than the other since summer 2018 (3rd Gen RDX).Well done Acura and team!
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And they were incredibly easy to work with. Hendrick Acura on Independence...the only one within about 50mi of Charlotte. I highly recommend!
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Acura basically copied Honda’s homework this time around, which is why these cars are so great. Peak Acura was always when they built off of the great Honda offerings rather than trying to do their own thing for the sake of trying to be different, and this is the perfect example of why that old recipe works so well.
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Acura basically copied Honda’s homework this time around, which is why these cars are so great. Peak Acura was always when they built off of the great Honda offerings rather than trying to do their own thing for the sake of trying to be different, and this is the perfect example of why that old recipe works so well.
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Happy to see the Honda and Acura execs are on the same page and aiming for more success 🙌🏽
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Honda is the parent company, so we can’t say copied but followed the strategy and vision of the parent
that said, good point! This is an amazing news for honda and acura products.
Happy to see the Honda and Acura execs are on the same page and aiming for more success 🙌🏽
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Happy to see the Honda and Acura execs are on the same page and aiming for more success 🙌🏽
I just wish they had chosen the same approach with the TLX...
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No, in this case the car is almost a carbon copy of the Civic Type R, with some slight changes/improvements. It's not "following the strategy and vision"; it's taking the same car and changing maybe 2% of it. And there's nothing wrong with that; if it ain't broke don't fix it.
I just wish they had chosen the same approach with the TLX...
I just wish they had chosen the same approach with the TLX...
YTD Sales numbers!
Audi A4: 8.2K units
Acura TLX: 9.4K units
BMW 3 Series: 14.2K units
Genesis G70: 6.2K units
Infiniti Q50: 3.2K units
Lexus IS: 11K units
It's not like TLX is very far behind the others....Anyway! your point is valid and I still go with Vision and Strategy
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Fair enough if you're referring to Integra. Agreed that they took the same car and made it more refine and premium to justify the price. But RDX, MDX and TLX aren't CC and MDX is the best seller in its category. Also, based on current sales numbers of Q2. TLX is not doing so bad, considering the sedan market is dying....
YTD Sales numbers!
Audi A4: 8.2K units
Acura TLX: 9.4K units
BMW 3 Series: 14.2K units
Genesis G70: 6.2K units
Infiniti Q50: 3.2K units
Lexus IS: 11K units
It's not like TLX is very far behind the others....Anyway! your point is valid and I still go with Vision and Strategy
if it makes you happy to say CC...all good!
YTD Sales numbers!
Audi A4: 8.2K units
Acura TLX: 9.4K units
BMW 3 Series: 14.2K units
Genesis G70: 6.2K units
Infiniti Q50: 3.2K units
Lexus IS: 11K units
It's not like TLX is very far behind the others....Anyway! your point is valid and I still go with Vision and Strategy
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It's not available yet. I checked twice and still a bunch of brands did not release their sales numbers yet. i will keep an eye, if posted, I will share here ![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Also for reference: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2023-u...ures-by-model/
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Also for reference: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2023-u...ures-by-model/
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Since, we are in Integra thread, it's important to share where it's standing compared to its German rivals ![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
YTD Sales:
Acura Integra: 16.5K units
Audi A3: 7.8K units
BMW 2 series: 4.2K units
Cadillac CT4 (not sure if it's in the same segment): 5.4K units
Congrats to Acura and team!
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YTD Sales:
Acura Integra: 16.5K units
Audi A3: 7.8K units
BMW 2 series: 4.2K units
Cadillac CT4 (not sure if it's in the same segment): 5.4K units
Congrats to Acura and team!
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Apparently, MB and Porsche will release their sales numbers later this month. I guess MB needs to reconcile those cars that were “sold”, but in reality they were registered by dealer for one day to show higher sales numbers or want to show fleet cars as non fleet! 😂
Jokes aside, in Europe, specifically Germany, manufacturers do that a lot. They register a car for one day and that’s considered sold and they show higher sales numbers. Not sure if it’s a practice in North America
After all, what we saw with dieselgate scandal , Germans are capable of anything to stay at the top!
Jokes aside, in Europe, specifically Germany, manufacturers do that a lot. They register a car for one day and that’s considered sold and they show higher sales numbers. Not sure if it’s a practice in North America
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After all, what we saw with dieselgate scandal , Germans are capable of anything to stay at the top!
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Apparently, MB and Porsche will release their sales numbers later this month. I guess MB needs to reconcile those cars that were “sold”, but in reality they were registered by dealer for one day to show higher sales numbers or want to show fleet cars as non fleet! 😂
Jokes aside, in Europe, specifically Germany, manufacturers do that a lot. They register a car for one day and that’s considered sold and they show higher sales numbers. Not sure if it’s a practice in North America![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
After all, what we saw with dieselgate scandal , Germans are capable of anything to stay at the top!
Jokes aside, in Europe, specifically Germany, manufacturers do that a lot. They register a car for one day and that’s considered sold and they show higher sales numbers. Not sure if it’s a practice in North America
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After all, what we saw with dieselgate scandal , Germans are capable of anything to stay at the top!
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-223
Old news.
That said, BMW isn't exactly concerned with beating out the likes of Acura. Really only focused on beating out Mercedes and to a lesser extent Audi. Perhaps they're concerned with Lexus, but the two companies have such polar opposite philosophies it's unlikely BMW really cares about Lexus. Acura isn't even on their radar. Much like Acura isn't concerned with what Mitsubishi is doing.
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They did, but you're acting like it's still common practice when BMW got caught and are under scrutiny by federal governments for having got caught "cooking the books."
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-223
Old news.
That said, BMW isn't exactly concerned with beating out the likes of Acura. Really only focused on beating out Mercedes and to a lesser extent Audi. Perhaps they're concerned with Lexus, but the two companies have such polar opposite philosophies it's unlikely BMW really cares about Lexus. Acura isn't even on their radar. Much like Acura isn't concerned with what Mitsubishi is doing.
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-223
Old news.
That said, BMW isn't exactly concerned with beating out the likes of Acura. Really only focused on beating out Mercedes and to a lesser extent Audi. Perhaps they're concerned with Lexus, but the two companies have such polar opposite philosophies it's unlikely BMW really cares about Lexus. Acura isn't even on their radar. Much like Acura isn't concerned with what Mitsubishi is doing.
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Fair enough if you're referring to Integra. Agreed that they took the same car and made it more refine and premium to justify the price. But RDX, MDX and TLX aren't CC and MDX is the best seller in its category. Also, based on current sales numbers of Q2. TLX is not doing so bad, considering the sedan market is dying....
I see TLX and Accords coming off the same assembly line, there's probably a lot of guts shared there too, but I haven't been paying attention.
The weird one is the 3rd gen RDX. I think that is the only Acura ever made (besides the NSX) that isn't a reskinned Honda. My guess is they were planning to move the CRV to it just like the Pilot, but probably replanned to a new hybrid-capable platform for CRV when gas prices skyrocketed.