Integra 2023 Acura Integra Type S
10-27-2022, 11:56 AM
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CTR pricing is out: $44K. If the ITS gets the same powertrain, I'm guessing it'll be high $40Ks, maybe even brushing against $50K. If that ends up holding true, I'd be very curious to see what kind of ADMs dealerships think customers will be willing to pay for a FWD turbo-4.
10-27-2022, 12:29 PM
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CTR pricing is out: $44K. If the ITS gets the same powertrain, I'm guessing it'll be high $40Ks, maybe even brushing against $50K. If that ends up holding true, I'd be very curious to see what kind of ADMs dealerships think customers will be willing to pay for a FWD turbo-4.
10-28-2022, 02:29 AM
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$49-50k means one could upgrade to a TLX-S for only $4-5k more...I would think / hope that its 3.0T, SH-AWD, and more luxurious appointments are worth way more than that.
If we use the price differential between Si and Type-R instead ($16k), that would put the Integra-S at around $46-47k, which is a bit more plausible. Note also that the S3 / M235i GC start at $46k, and the CLA35 at $48k. Acura always goes for the value play, so undercutting those with a $45k sticker is the likely outcome.
Then again, $45k puts it dangerously close to the CTR, so why would one buy that over the ITS? My guess is it may lose some of the "R" goodies as "S" is supposed to be less hardcore anyway. The question then is which goodies...
If we use the price differential between Si and Type-R instead ($16k), that would put the Integra-S at around $46-47k, which is a bit more plausible. Note also that the S3 / M235i GC start at $46k, and the CLA35 at $48k. Acura always goes for the value play, so undercutting those with a $45k sticker is the likely outcome.
Then again, $45k puts it dangerously close to the CTR, so why would one buy that over the ITS? My guess is it may lose some of the "R" goodies as "S" is supposed to be less hardcore anyway. The question then is which goodies...
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10-28-2022, 02:34 AM
#84
$49-50k means one could upgrade to a TLX-S for only $4-5k more...I would think / hope that its 3.0T, SH-AWD, and more luxurious appointments are worth way more than that.
If we use the price differential between Si and Type-R instead ($16k), that would put the Integra-S at around $46-47k, which is a bit more plausible. Note also that the S3 / M235i GC start at $46k, and the CLA35 at $48k. Acura always goes for the value play, so undercutting those with a $45k sticker is the likely outcome.
Then again, $45k puts it dangerously close to the CTR, so why would one buy that over the ITS? My guess is it may lose some of the "R" goodies as "S" is supposed to be less hardcore anyway. The question then is which goodies...
If we use the price differential between Si and Type-R instead ($16k), that would put the Integra-S at around $46-47k, which is a bit more plausible. Note also that the S3 / M235i GC start at $46k, and the CLA35 at $48k. Acura always goes for the value play, so undercutting those with a $45k sticker is the likely outcome.
Then again, $45k puts it dangerously close to the CTR, so why would one buy that over the ITS? My guess is it may lose some of the "R" goodies as "S" is supposed to be less hardcore anyway. The question then is which goodies...
10-28-2022, 01:59 PM
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I think we need to use the right prices. The CTR is $44k after destination, and $43k before that. a M235i is $46400 before destination but $47400 after. The CLA35 is $48k before destination, but $49k after.
With Destination Charge:
CTR: $44k
M235i: $47.5k
CLA35: $49k
S3: $47k
TLX-S: $55k
As such, if they make an Integra Type S that's based on the CTR (i.e. same powertrain, LSD, suspension, etc) and charge $49k for it, it would still be some $6k cheaper than the TLX-S. Personally I think $5k extra for the ITS over CTR would be too much - I think $4k extra for a total at $48k is more reasonable.
For that $4k, you will get:
- An extra year of warranty
- Free maintenance for 2 years
- Head-up Display
- ELS 3D Sound system
- Heated seats
That would be $7k less than the TLX-S, while being right in line with the M235i, CLA35, and S3. The main difference is that for those German models, you will be well in the mid $50k range when equipped to the same level as the Integra.
With Destination Charge:
CTR: $44k
M235i: $47.5k
CLA35: $49k
S3: $47k
TLX-S: $55k
As such, if they make an Integra Type S that's based on the CTR (i.e. same powertrain, LSD, suspension, etc) and charge $49k for it, it would still be some $6k cheaper than the TLX-S. Personally I think $5k extra for the ITS over CTR would be too much - I think $4k extra for a total at $48k is more reasonable.
For that $4k, you will get:
- An extra year of warranty
- Free maintenance for 2 years
- Head-up Display
- ELS 3D Sound system
- Heated seats
That would be $7k less than the TLX-S, while being right in line with the M235i, CLA35, and S3. The main difference is that for those German models, you will be well in the mid $50k range when equipped to the same level as the Integra.
10-28-2022, 02:21 PM
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I think we need to use the right prices. The CTR is $44k after destination, and $43k before that. a M235i is $46400 before destination but $47400 after. The CLA35 is $48k before destination, but $49k after.
With Destination Charge:
CTR: $44k
M235i: $47.5k
CLA35: $49k
S3: $47k
TLX-S: $55k
As such, if they make an Integra Type S that's based on the CTR (i.e. same powertrain, LSD, suspension, etc) and charge $49k for it, it would still be some $6k cheaper than the TLX-S. Personally I think $5k extra for the ITS over CTR would be too much - I think $4k extra for a total at $48k is more reasonable.
For that $4k, you will get:
- An extra year of warranty
- Free maintenance for 2 years
- Head-up Display
- ELS 3D Sound system
- Heated seats
That would be $7k less than the TLX-S, while being right in line with the M235i, CLA35, and S3. The main difference is that for those German models, you will be well in the mid $50k range when equipped to the same level as the Integra.
With Destination Charge:
CTR: $44k
M235i: $47.5k
CLA35: $49k
S3: $47k
TLX-S: $55k
As such, if they make an Integra Type S that's based on the CTR (i.e. same powertrain, LSD, suspension, etc) and charge $49k for it, it would still be some $6k cheaper than the TLX-S. Personally I think $5k extra for the ITS over CTR would be too much - I think $4k extra for a total at $48k is more reasonable.
For that $4k, you will get:
- An extra year of warranty
- Free maintenance for 2 years
- Head-up Display
- ELS 3D Sound system
- Heated seats
That would be $7k less than the TLX-S, while being right in line with the M235i, CLA35, and S3. The main difference is that for those German models, you will be well in the mid $50k range when equipped to the same level as the Integra.
10-28-2022, 02:23 PM
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Hahah I totally understand where you are coming from. But at such high MSRP, people will complain for sure. People are already complaining the new FL5 is too expensive at $44k with destination.
10-28-2022, 02:24 PM
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Yeah, people clearly do not understand inflationary effects. The old ITR was about $24K new back in 1998. In today's money, that's $44K. Relative to inflation, it's not more expensive than it used to be. It might be less attainable for people working in fields that have wages that have stagnated, but that's more of a them problem, not a Honda problem.
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10-31-2022, 01:11 AM
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Per Redline Reviews's new Integra video -
If true, seems odd as the car isn't even sold over there. Or perhaps it will be, if it's built alongside the CTR. If so, will it be branded as a Honda? So many unknowns, but so little info as they're tight-lipped as usual. With the hoopla over the base model finally starting to fizzle out, they could certainly benefit from announcing it sooner than later.
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So we hear rumors that Acura is doing some Integra Type S prototype drives for media out in Japan next month and while the company has been quiet about the existence of the Type S, we expect an official announcement to happen before the end of the year.
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10-31-2022, 10:55 AM
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If true, seems odd as the car isn't even sold over there. Or perhaps it will be, if it's built alongside the CTR. If so, will it be branded as a Honda? So many unknowns, but so little info as they're tight-lipped as usual. With the hoopla over the base model finally starting to fizzle out, they could certainly benefit from announcing it sooner than later.
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10-31-2022, 08:54 PM
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Perhaps ask your source instead of waiting for them to leak something 
Most likely AHM wants to avoid stealing the CTR's thunder as it just went on sale. And if it is being built in Japan, that might explain why spy shots have been so rare. Then again there's this tidbit which would contradict all of that: "The 2023 Acura Integra is manufactured at Honda's Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, OH, which is also the exclusive global producer of the next-generation 2023 Acura Integra."
Most likely AHM wants to avoid stealing the CTR's thunder as it just went on sale. And if it is being built in Japan, that might explain why spy shots have been so rare. Then again there's this tidbit which would contradict all of that: "The 2023 Acura Integra is manufactured at Honda's Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, OH, which is also the exclusive global producer of the next-generation 2023 Acura Integra."
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11-03-2022, 10:15 AM
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Perhaps ask your source instead of waiting for them to leak something
Most likely AHM wants to avoid stealing the CTR's thunder as it just went on sale. And if it is being built in Japan, that might explain why spy shots have been so rare. Then again there's this tidbit which would contradict all of that: "The 2023 Acura Integra is manufactured at Honda's Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, OH, which is also the exclusive global producer of the next-generation 2023 Acura Integra."
Most likely AHM wants to avoid stealing the CTR's thunder as it just went on sale. And if it is being built in Japan, that might explain why spy shots have been so rare. Then again there's this tidbit which would contradict all of that: "The 2023 Acura Integra is manufactured at Honda's Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, OH, which is also the exclusive global producer of the next-generation 2023 Acura Integra."
And true. If it's built in Marysville, perhapse they're testing the mules in Japan or Europe and just building them here? I thought someone posted or had a spy shot of the Integra Type S...
Correction. Link to spy shots
https://www.motor1.com/news/610946/a...e-s-spy-shots/
Unless I'm just late...
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12-21-2022, 05:31 PM
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I am surprised no one has added some more links with the cover off the new Type S:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/
The above link has the first drive of the car around a track (2 laps) and the Integra Type S here has decaling/wrap around the vehicle to somewhat hide the finer details (kinda like what the Honda Civic Type R had with it's red wrap). I am liking how the Type S is similar to the Civic Type R with what appears to be more flared out wheel wells and aggressive front end (inclusive of the vent on the hood). I am not usually a fan of centre exhausts, but this 3 tip design seems to be pretty good with the lower splitter. All in all I do like this car, however I do not think I can justify paying the difference to trade-in/upgrade my 2023 Integra Aspec for the Type S. This would likely cost me another $12,000 - 15,000 Canadian. Losing out on an depreciation, and taxes accounts for part of the difference. For the much nicer rims, Brembo 4 pot calipers, and power I do not think I can sadly fork out the money.
This Type S will be in the neighborhood of $50,000 USD that is a lot of cash for this car. Which in some ways is worth it, especially considering this will be Acura's last ICE vehicle and last manual. However could be a good option for those that have the DOLLAR$, want a little more luxury in a manual car, and can't get a Civic Type R (because of how exclusive the Type R is).
Sadly for now I will just upgrade my Teg Aspec with an intercooler, intake, and tune! Later get the drop in turbo and clutch to get me to 300 plus wheel HP, all for less than $4,000.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/
The above link has the first drive of the car around a track (2 laps) and the Integra Type S here has decaling/wrap around the vehicle to somewhat hide the finer details (kinda like what the Honda Civic Type R had with it's red wrap). I am liking how the Type S is similar to the Civic Type R with what appears to be more flared out wheel wells and aggressive front end (inclusive of the vent on the hood). I am not usually a fan of centre exhausts, but this 3 tip design seems to be pretty good with the lower splitter. All in all I do like this car, however I do not think I can justify paying the difference to trade-in/upgrade my 2023 Integra Aspec for the Type S. This would likely cost me another $12,000 - 15,000 Canadian. Losing out on an depreciation, and taxes accounts for part of the difference. For the much nicer rims, Brembo 4 pot calipers, and power I do not think I can sadly fork out the money.
This Type S will be in the neighborhood of $50,000 USD that is a lot of cash for this car. Which in some ways is worth it, especially considering this will be Acura's last ICE vehicle and last manual. However could be a good option for those that have the DOLLAR$, want a little more luxury in a manual car, and can't get a Civic Type R (because of how exclusive the Type R is).
Sadly for now I will just upgrade my Teg Aspec with an intercooler, intake, and tune! Later get the drop in turbo and clutch to get me to 300 plus wheel HP, all for less than $4,000.
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12-22-2022, 04:28 PM
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I am surprised no one has added some more links with the cover off the new Type S:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/
The above link has the first drive of the car around a track (2 laps) and the Integra Type S here has decaling/wrap around the vehicle to somewhat hide the finer details (kinda like what the Honda Civic Type R had with it's red wrap). I am liking how the Type S is similar to the Civic Type R with what appears to be more flared out wheel wells and aggressive front end (inclusive of the vent on the hood). I am not usually a fan of centre exhausts, but this 3 tip design seems to be pretty good with the lower splitter. All in all I do like this car, however I do not think I can justify paying the difference to trade-in/upgrade my 2023 Integra Aspec for the Type S. This would likely cost me another $12,000 - 15,000 Canadian. Losing out on an depreciation, and taxes accounts for part of the difference. For the much nicer rims, Brembo 4 pot calipers, and power I do not think I can sadly fork out the money.
This Type S will be in the neighborhood of $50,000 USD that is a lot of cash for this car. Which in some ways is worth it, especially considering this will be Acura's last ICE vehicle and last manual. However could be a good option for those that have the DOLLAR$, want a little more luxury in a manual car, and can't get a Civic Type R (because of how exclusive the Type R is).
Sadly for now I will just upgrade my Teg Aspec with an intercooler, intake, and tune! Later get the drop in turbo and clutch to get me to 300 plus wheel HP, all for less than $4,000.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/
The above link has the first drive of the car around a track (2 laps) and the Integra Type S here has decaling/wrap around the vehicle to somewhat hide the finer details (kinda like what the Honda Civic Type R had with it's red wrap). I am liking how the Type S is similar to the Civic Type R with what appears to be more flared out wheel wells and aggressive front end (inclusive of the vent on the hood). I am not usually a fan of centre exhausts, but this 3 tip design seems to be pretty good with the lower splitter. All in all I do like this car, however I do not think I can justify paying the difference to trade-in/upgrade my 2023 Integra Aspec for the Type S. This would likely cost me another $12,000 - 15,000 Canadian. Losing out on an depreciation, and taxes accounts for part of the difference. For the much nicer rims, Brembo 4 pot calipers, and power I do not think I can sadly fork out the money.
This Type S will be in the neighborhood of $50,000 USD that is a lot of cash for this car. Which in some ways is worth it, especially considering this will be Acura's last ICE vehicle and last manual. However could be a good option for those that have the DOLLAR$, want a little more luxury in a manual car, and can't get a Civic Type R (because of how exclusive the Type R is).
Sadly for now I will just upgrade my Teg Aspec with an intercooler, intake, and tune! Later get the drop in turbo and clutch to get me to 300 plus wheel HP, all for less than $4,000.
01-28-2023, 10:14 AM
#96
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2024 Integra Type S Makes North American Debut This Weekend at Daytona
Highly anticipated, performance-minded version of the modern Integra to be put on display.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-integra-type-s-prototype-debut-daytona-rolex-24/amp/
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02-01-2023, 08:30 AM
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I am not sure that I will try to buy the 2024 Integra type S, but I am on the interest list at the local dealership where I bought my 2023 6MT. If it has SH-AWD and heated/cooled seats, that would go a long way towards convincing me that is the right trade up.
02-01-2023, 01:52 PM
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02-01-2023, 10:24 PM
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Unfortunately, SH-AWD doesn't appear to be planned for the Integra.
https://www.integratalk.com/threads/...ge-3#post-2671
https://www.integratalk.com/threads/...ge-3#post-2671
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03-20-2023, 08:56 AM
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320 Horsepower Confirmed for Acura Integra Type S; Full Reveal Next Month (That sound of the exhausts....WOW)
https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases/320-horsepower-confirmed-for-acura-integra-type-s-full-reveal-next-month
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03-20-2023, 09:28 AM
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Having lived with my wife's ASpec 6MT now for four months, I'm definitely following the Type S. On top of that excellent platform, the prospect of fatter tires, 50% more horsepower, and probable CTR suspension tricks have piqued my interest for sure.
Unknown variables, at this point, are availability and pricing. My dealer only does MSRP, so mark-ups would not be the issue -- rather, whether they can get the car on the lot may be an issue. We went 6 months between order and delivery for our A Spec (exactly as forecasted by our sales guy).
Unknown variables, at this point, are availability and pricing. My dealer only does MSRP, so mark-ups would not be the issue -- rather, whether they can get the car on the lot may be an issue. We went 6 months between order and delivery for our A Spec (exactly as forecasted by our sales guy).
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03-20-2023, 10:11 AM
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If the Integra Type S is $1 over $50K MSRP - consider it DOA. Car prices have become absurd and in no way, shape or form can be justified. People's incomes have not grown or reflect this change. Without ANY explanation, the Type R went from $37K to $44K, and that's before dealers get a vice grip on your head and pop your eyes out with ADM (think Dogs in Casino). Also, 320HP on a FWD, LSD or not, is borderline unusable. Totally missed opportunity not having SH-AWD and 10AT/8DCT. People who have that kind of money and want performance luxury want options. Acura is marketing this at 25 year old yuppies who can't even afford the Si.
03-20-2023, 10:13 AM
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The sound is sick in the TYPE S....I listened to it like 20 times! It gets better and better.
My only concern is pricing (even without markups). A fully loaded Teggy is CAD$45K. So I a assuming the TYPE S will be $52-$55K. Oh boy that's a lot of money
My only concern is pricing (even without markups). A fully loaded Teggy is CAD$45K. So I a assuming the TYPE S will be $52-$55K. Oh boy that's a lot of money
03-20-2023, 11:00 AM
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If the Integra Type S is $1 over $50K MSRP - consider it DOA. Car prices have become absurd and in no way, shape or form can be justified. People's incomes have not grown or reflect this change. Without ANY explanation, the Type R went from $37K to $44K, and that's before dealers get a vice grip on your head and pop your eyes out with ADM (think Dogs in Casino). Also, 320HP on a FWD, LSD or not, is borderline unusable. Totally missed opportunity not having SH-AWD and 10AT/8DCT. People who have that kind of money and want performance luxury want options. Acura is marketing this at 25 year old yuppies who can't even afford the Si.
As for the power, have you driven a CTR? If 315hp in that car doesn’t overwhelm the front wheels, why would an extra 5hp in the ITS suddenly make it borderline unusable? Admittedly, I've yet to drive the CTR on a track, but while driving spiritedly on backroads I never though to myself "wow, this car sucks, I'd rather it have AWD".
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03-20-2023, 11:16 AM
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It’s called inflation. $37K back in 2015 is $47K today per the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Your income may not have increase proportionally, but material and commodity costs have increased and from a macroeconomic perspective the current CTR is cheaper than when it first debuted in 2015.
As for the power, have you driven a CTR? If 315hp in that car doesn’t overwhelm the front wheels, why would an extra 5hp in the ITS suddenly make it borderline unusable?
As for the power, have you driven a CTR? If 315hp in that car doesn’t overwhelm the front wheels, why would an extra 5hp in the ITS suddenly make it borderline unusable?
If not, quell the aggression.
FK8 was wheel hopping like crazy at launch, it barely beat the 2.0T 10AT Accord in 1/4 mile race (Throttle House). CTR is a track car. Type S is supposed to be luxury performance but as someone said - it's still a FWD 4-popper turbo. Again, people who have that kind of money will still go for the RDX because it has SHAWD and 10AT. Acura is marketing this car at people who don't have $50K for a car. Don't worry about my income. I can go buy MDX Type S Advance today if I wanted to. Just because I can, doesn't mean I should. Now, since you want to throw around big words like commodities and microeconomics to sound more informed, let's dance. $37,000 in 2015 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $46,963.21 today, an increase of $9,963.21 over 8 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.03% per year between 2015 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 26.93%. So even in this case, it's still a $3K padded profit over the last one, while losing some features from the FK8. Also, FK8 CTR came out in 2017, not 2015 but I'm losing interest in this debate so whatever.
I said borderline ...
03-20-2023, 11:44 AM
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Are you the lead engineer on the new Type S? Are you in charge of marking the car? Are you Mike Stanton, the President and CEO of the National Automobile Dealers Association?
If not, quell the aggression.
FK8 was wheel hopping like crazy at launch, it barely beat the 2.0T 10AT Accord in 1/4 mile race (Throttle House). CTR is a track car. Type S is supposed to be luxury performance but as someone said - it's still a FWD 4-popper turbo. Again, people who have that kind of money will still go for the RDX because it has SHAWD and 10AT. Acura is marketing this car at people who don't have $50K for a car. Don't worry about my income. I can go buy MDX Type S Advance today if I wanted to. Just because I can, doesn't mean I should. Now, since you want to throw around big words like commodities and microeconomics to sound more informed, let's dance. $37,000 in 2015 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $46,963.21 today, an increase of $9,963.21 over 8 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.03% per year between 2015 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 26.93%. So even in this case, it's still a $3K padded profit over the last one, while losing some features from the FK8. Also, FK8 CTR came out in 2017, not 2015 but I'm losing interest in this debate so whatever.
I said borderline ...
If not, quell the aggression.
FK8 was wheel hopping like crazy at launch, it barely beat the 2.0T 10AT Accord in 1/4 mile race (Throttle House). CTR is a track car. Type S is supposed to be luxury performance but as someone said - it's still a FWD 4-popper turbo. Again, people who have that kind of money will still go for the RDX because it has SHAWD and 10AT. Acura is marketing this car at people who don't have $50K for a car. Don't worry about my income. I can go buy MDX Type S Advance today if I wanted to. Just because I can, doesn't mean I should. Now, since you want to throw around big words like commodities and microeconomics to sound more informed, let's dance. $37,000 in 2015 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $46,963.21 today, an increase of $9,963.21 over 8 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.03% per year between 2015 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 26.93%. So even in this case, it's still a $3K padded profit over the last one, while losing some features from the FK8. Also, FK8 CTR came out in 2017, not 2015 but I'm losing interest in this debate so whatever.
I said borderline ...
Way to move the goalposts. You were complaing about the CTR prices, and now you're bringing the ITS price into it?
Without ANY explanation, the Type R went from $37K to $44K, and that's before dealers get a vice grip on your head and pop your eyes out with ADM (think Dogs in Casino)
Wah wah wah, seems like all you do here is complain about Honda/Acura... There's plenty of things to complain about, but pricing ain't one of them.
Is that enough aggression for you
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03-20-2023, 03:18 PM
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03-20-2023, 04:08 PM
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what aggression? Wanna see some actual aggression?
Way to move the goalposts. You were complaing about the ctr prices, and now you're bringing the its price into it?
Ok yeah mea culpa, the ctr came out in 2017, not in 2015. Ok, so let's update the numbers then: $37k in 2017 is $45.8k in today's money, so it's still more than the $44k price tag you're complaining about. Either way, the math works out to the ctr being less expensive today from a buying power perspective compared to 2017 when it first came out.
wah wah wah, seems like all you do here is complain about honda/acura... There's plenty of things to complain about, but pricing ain't one of them.
Is that enough aggression for you?
Way to move the goalposts. You were complaing about the ctr prices, and now you're bringing the its price into it?
Ok yeah mea culpa, the ctr came out in 2017, not in 2015. Ok, so let's update the numbers then: $37k in 2017 is $45.8k in today's money, so it's still more than the $44k price tag you're complaining about. Either way, the math works out to the ctr being less expensive today from a buying power perspective compared to 2017 when it first came out.
wah wah wah, seems like all you do here is complain about honda/acura... There's plenty of things to complain about, but pricing ain't one of them.
Is that enough aggression for you
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Shadow2056 (03-22-2023)
03-22-2023, 09:49 AM
#115
Burning Brakes
Ninja edit:. Totally forgot about the Corolla GR. Toyota is stomping on Honda for this generation.
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03-22-2023, 12:18 PM
#116
Three Wheelin'
I think it’s extra cool the integra is a 5 door. I always thought the Tesla Model S was great for having that.
Especially since Honda really only has barely the Civic Si and the Type R. Everything else they have is purely economy. Acura has the TLX Type S, Integra Type S, MDX Type S, and probably even an RDX Type S in the future. Honda basically said "Nah. We'll do hybrids and fuel efficiency and blandness." While Toyota over here pulling out the BRZ, Supra, and TRD Camry.
Ninja edit:. Totally forgot about the Corolla GR. Toyota is stomping on Honda for this generation.
Ninja edit:. Totally forgot about the Corolla GR. Toyota is stomping on Honda for this generation.
The TRD Camry I find is too over styled for a 300hp fwd car. Also, it’s been a long time since I drove a Toyota but it had a pretty numb and bland steering.
the BRZ / GT86 family of cars, big props to Toyota for building those. I do wish they had more grunt that was a ‘brave’ decision. I mean people here lose their minds when the Acura has less hp than the equivalent Audi or bmw… the BRZ has less power than lawn equipment tools, but that’s not the point of the car and I really like it for that. Any imbecile can plant his foot down and make a car go, but with those it takes skill and fitness.
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Shadow2056 (03-22-2023)
03-22-2023, 01:29 PM
#117
Burning Brakes
I completely agree with you on the Supra and the Corolla. There is a Corolla GR at the office building where I work, sounds pretty darn good and looks sharp. I really would like one but doesn’t fit a need in our family currently.
The TRD Camry I find is too over styled for a 300hp fwd car. Also, it’s been a long time since I drove a Toyota but it had a pretty numb and bland steering.
the BRZ / GT86 family of cars, big props to Toyota for building those. I do wish they had more grunt that was a ‘brave’ decision. I mean people here lose their minds when the Acura has less hp than the equivalent Audi or bmw… the BRZ has less power than lawn equipment tools, but that’s not the point of the car and I really like it for that. Any imbecile can plant his foot down and make a car go, but with those it takes skill and fitness.
The TRD Camry I find is too over styled for a 300hp fwd car. Also, it’s been a long time since I drove a Toyota but it had a pretty numb and bland steering.
the BRZ / GT86 family of cars, big props to Toyota for building those. I do wish they had more grunt that was a ‘brave’ decision. I mean people here lose their minds when the Acura has less hp than the equivalent Audi or bmw… the BRZ has less power than lawn equipment tools, but that’s not the point of the car and I really like it for that. Any imbecile can plant his foot down and make a car go, but with those it takes skill and fitness.
GR86/BRZ are definitely great. Wish Honda would come out with a 2dr coupe to compete with the Supra and GR86.
03-23-2023, 08:45 AM
#118
Three Wheelin'
True. We had a TRD Camry on the lot. I was not impressed with the performance. Sounded great! Looked like they tried to Type R the Camry. Lol! Interior was the typical Toyota blandness. I just can't get over how unexciting the interior on Toyota/Lexus are. Screens look like MS-DOS screens from 1995.
GR86/BRZ are definitely great. Wish Honda would come out with a 2dr coupe to compete with the Supra and GR86.
GR86/BRZ are definitely great. Wish Honda would come out with a 2dr coupe to compete with the Supra and GR86.
I agree that another s2000 would be nice to see!
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Shadow2056 (03-24-2023)
03-24-2023, 09:49 AM
#119
Burning Brakes
Well according to this, it seems like there MIGHT be in a couple years. An EV NSX and an EV 2dr sportscar. Sadly, they're EVs. Just wondering when they'll pop up.
03-25-2023, 09:35 AM
#120
Three Wheelin'
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/03/th...insane-markup/