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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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Turbo speculation for next gen ILX

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Acura ILX Could Get Honda?s New Turbo Four, But Will the Tuners Return? ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

Based on what the Acura rep said, it seems to me that the TLX might get a VTEC Turbo within the current generation.

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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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If they really wanted to shove the turbo in there, they could have let the 2015 model languish until the turbo was ready for North American use. This car would be PERFECT with that 2.0t. They could have even gone with two trims (1.5T for the low end and then step up to a Type S with the 2.0T).
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:46 PM
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I am not sure why but I still think Acura will keep this 2.0L turbo for a sportier TLX.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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What kind of power would the engine make? If it was less than 250, that'd be a good base engine, but if it makes any more than that, would it be a replacement for the J35 (obviously for a TLX)?
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by panamera125
What kind of power would the engine make? If it was less than 250, that'd be a good base engine, but if it makes any more than that, would it be a replacement for the J35 (obviously for a TLX)?
Apparently the new Civic will get the 1.5T as the base.

I hope the J35 doesn't go away. I'm in a total dilemma about whether to consider a 2016 ILX over a Accord V6 coupe. That V6 is a gem. I kind of want to own one before it disappears. Knowing Honda, they will kill it in their mainstream products. The ILX has all the tech-y toys though...
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliAtenza
Apparently the new Civic will get the 1.5T as the base.

I hope the J35 doesn't go away. I'm in a total dilemma about whether to consider a 2016 ILX over a Accord V6 coupe. That V6 is a gem. I kind of want to own one before it disappears. Knowing Honda, they will kill it in their mainstream products. The ILX has all the tech-y toys though...
Yeah, I've heard that the Civic will probably go to a little turbo engine.

As for the V6s, Honda really knows how to build one. Being as they can achieve 35 hwy for the TLX with 290 hp, I don't really see why they'd get rid of it. I mean, maybe in 10 years that would be bad mileage, but until then the mileage is more than good enough. Plus, a big V6 competes well with 300+ hp germans, but if you stick a little turbo 4 in there and try to make it run with a 335i or S4, it would just be plain ridiculous.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:16 PM
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Not to be a party pooper, but does the 8DCT have the capacity to handle the torque from the 2.0T? I'm guessing no and that they'd have to go with the 9AT.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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^party pooper.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^party pooper.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:32 PM
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Thanks Obama.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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Now thats just mean spirited. Isn't there a forum rule about personal insults?
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:43 PM
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i didnt insult you.
you prefaced the first post with "not to be a party pooper"

the ILX with a turbo would be sweet coupled with the DCT, however it wont be.
I blame that on Obama.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
I blame that on Obama.
I thought you were calling me Obama. In insult of the highest order...
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
Not to be a party pooper, but does the 8DCT have the capacity to handle the torque from the 2.0T? I'm guessing no and that they'd have to go with the 9AT.
As I recall, the current 8DCT can only handle 200 lb.-ft., but perhaps they've been developing a higher torque version alongside the VTEC Turbos. Plus, there's also the RLX's DCT that can obviously handle more torque, so maybe it could be adapted. We can also hope for a MANUAL TRANSMISSION, but I'm afraid that's not happening for Acura.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:11 PM
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Colin...You are correct in that the 8 DCT couldn't handle the torque of the turbo but IMAGINE how great it would be if Acura used that engine and matched to a manual for their Type-S version. Somewhat detuned engine for the ILX at 240 HP and maybe 290 for their TLX.

Nedmundo...you and I have the same fantasies my friend.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by weather
Colin...You are correct in that the 8 DCT couldn't handle the torque of the turbo but IMAGINE how great it would be if Acura used that engine and matched to a manual for their Type-S version. Somewhat detuned engine for the ILX at 240 HP and maybe 290 for their TLX.

Nedmundo...you and I have the same fantasies my friend.
Yes, the old TL 6MT could probably handle the torque as could the 7DCT from the RLX. Somewhere I had wondered aloud if it (7DCT) was designed to accept either a hybrid motor or torque converter. I'm guessing the answer is no since they went with the 9AT instead. Maybe it was just time constraints?
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by panamera125
Yeah, I've heard that the Civic will probably go to a little turbo engine.

As for the V6s, Honda really knows how to build one. Being as they can achieve 35 hwy for the TLX with 290 hp, I don't really see why they'd get rid of it. I mean, maybe in 10 years that would be bad mileage, but until then the mileage is more than good enough. Plus, a big V6 competes well with 300+ hp germans, but if you stick a little turbo 4 in there and try to make it run with a 335i or S4, it would just be plain ridiculous.
I mean the Accord V6 coupe AT runs a 5.5 0-60! That's pretty damn quick for a big coupe with only "278" hp.

When they announced that the turbo 4's were going to be produced at the Anna, OH plant, they also said they want to get the turbo 4's into as many models as possible. That statement made me fear for the future of the V6 in the Honda/Acura lineup. The V6 might go away in the Accord/TLX, and instead only live on in their SUVs and the Odyssey minivan.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaliAtenza
When they announced that the turbo 4's were going to be produced at the Anna, OH plant, they also said they want to get the turbo 4's into as many models as possible. That statement made me fear for the future of the V6 in the Honda/Acura lineup. The V6 might go away in the Accord/TLX, and instead only live on in their SUVs and the Odyssey minivan.
I bet the V6 models will live for awhile, especially in the TLX. Most of the premium brands have kept six cylinder models alongside the newer turbo fours, and I would expect Acura to do the same. Some buyers really want the six.

In the TLX, I wouldn't be surprised to see the current I4/FWD continue as the base, then a 2.0T in FWD/AWD, and an AWD V6 model with more power than the current V6. It gives Acura an opportunity to expand the TLX range upmarket, which makes sense, especially given the weak sales of the RLX. This would be similar to BMW's 3 Series range of 320i, 328i, and 335i, which span about $30k in price from a base 320i to a loaded 335i.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin
I thought you were calling me Obama. In insult of the highest order...
never!

and carry on.
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