usdmJON

A Civic on 9in wide wheels running +20 offset? There is no way that fits a stock fender well. That would stick out half an inch more than the sema ilx with the width alone.. plus then another 20mm because of the lower offset.

Id bet it looks fuckin sick though!


Edit:It's damn close.
This civic is actually +22 so +20 would stick out a lil more. He is running -4 camber so it is possible but more tuning is required than just buying the wheels.

usdmJON

And I am for damn sure if he went any lower in the front the fender would eat rubber so he is stuck with that reverse rack unless he stretches his tires more, runs lower camber, or pulls his fenders.

Also I believe he is running 18s so 19s with the chassis dropped that low will rub even more.

Trentimus

He isn't running any stretch either, so stretch would give more room. That guy has either 235 or 245 width as as you can see in the pic plenty of side wall. I mean fitting a 9" or +20-30 offset won't be as simple as just plug and go but you can definitely pull it off!

spdandpwr

I was thinking 18x8 +40 or +38 on all four corners...going for that function, I can care less about form...at the same time, if I can fit a wider wheel (and thus a wider tire), I may consider moar offset / inches of wheel.

Trentimus

A bigger rim MAY fit but then sometimes you have to stretch anyways so it ends up being a null point. I'd aim for 17x8.5 +30-40 if you want function. That should allow something like a 235/40 tire on it, maybe a 245

spdandpwr

I'm not dropping the car more than an inch, which is why I want an 18" wheel. Any reco for that. I'm ok with doing only 225s.

Trentimus

You could just do a more aggressive offset and a 8" wide wheel if you went 225s.. 8" wide will save you on some weight and the lower offset will push you closer to the fender. 1" shouldn't have any fender issues even if you poke a bit.

spdandpwr

So you're thinking an 18x8 +38 will be ok fitment with a 225 tire?

Trentimus

You could even go slightly more aggressive on the offset with a 225 tire. But I'd say 18x8+38 w/ a 225/40/18 or 235/35(maybe 40)/18

You should be good either way.

spdandpwr

18s are so pricey...lol, anyway, thinking of going enkei rpf1s.

usdmJON

His tires ARE stretched. Look at them. It is a mild stretch but a stretch non the less. Look at the index cards in his rear wheel. The tires are stretched and hes running -4camber which is more camber than any tire shop would recommend running safely.
We are talking about what will fit. Having to run negative camber over 2degrees and stretched tires means they DID NOT fit.

And if were are considering further mods then of course it can be pulled off. Older civics have been running more aggressive set ups since before the ilx was a thought.

usdmJON

And it sounds to me like spdandpwr wants to be more function. So he wants the extra width over offset.
In that case you want wide wide wide and sacrifice everything else. The question is will you allow poke or does the wheel need to sit inside the wheel well?
You dont like that mexi poke you should go no larger than 8.5 and you should always go with +45... even 50 if you can find it but I think most 50offset look just hideous.
18x8.5 +45 if you best bet. If you see you have room throw on some spacers to get a wider stance.
If you want to be more function stay 17x8.5.

Ill probably go 8 because I look for an inbetween of function and form. 8 as trentimus was saying will allow a larger variety of offsets.

And p.s. guys there is no "bigger rims". Its either wider barrels or lower offset. The rim is literally just the rim of the barrel and you never change that. Its just semantics I know but you dont want people looking at you weird when you sound like a pepboys home depot tuner.

spdandpwr

I don't want to poke at all, so perhaps an 18x8 +35 (which is what the rpf1 comes in) would be perfect on a 225/40/18. Will a 235/35/18 give me a similar sidewall profile? I don't want to lose out on sidewall because I like the beefy tire look. Like this:

Trentimus

That's abut as stretched as the stock tires on the stock rims. He could of dropped tire sizes and run less camber. HIS setup is NOT the only 9" width either.. so I stand by the fact that they can be done and fit. Will it poke a bit? Yeah but I am not the one considering it lol.. just telling you what can be done.

235/35/18 will still look plenty beefy.. you could always try 235/40/18 if you're just going 1" drop you should not have any issues having a bit more beef.. my concern would be rubbing when you turn the wheel all the way.

usdmJON

The fronts look similar to our stock tire/wheel set up but it isn't stretched. OE mounted tires do not come stretched. Ever. Stretching tires by definition is running a tire too small for the width wheel you are running. He is running a smaller tire size in the rear than the front. It has a slight stretch plus it is running -4 camber.
You are right if her ran a smaller tire size it could be made to fit, but the question at hand was "What spec size will work with beefy functional tires?" Dropping tire sizes will sacrifice the functionality the OP is trying to achieve. So no, a 9in wide wheel with +20 offset will not "fit". You can MAKE THEM FIT. But that requires stretching tires or pulling fenders which does not constitute as fitting correctly.


8.5 +45 you should'nt poke. But if you want a specific wheel that only comes in 8 then get that. +35 will be fine on an 8in wheel.

Trentimus

Pretty sure that guy is running the same size tire front and back. I think what you're seeing is the sidewall flex from the camber. Those are really beefy tires. I never recommended he go 9" lol

spdandpwr

I don't care for flush, if you're taking really hard turns, flush = rub.

Trentimus

You're not going low enough for it to matter much, the concern for you is your tire rubbing the inside of you fender.

Stick with an 8" or 8.5 +30-40 w/ 235 tires. If you go 17 go HAM and get 245 wide tires.

spdandpwr

245 might make lots of sense on an s/c setup...hmmm...

Trentimus

AND it would look way badass compared to the stock cookie cutter 215s

Go like 17x8.5 +38ish with a 245/40/17

usdmJON

Not exactly. As your body rolls the wheel with the correct camber will slip inside the wheel well nicely.


My bad. You said "civic guys have ran +22 & +28 on 9" wide." during a conversation where the OP wants to run an aggressive wheel without further mods. So Im arguing that point. You can not run +22 on a 9in wide wheel without further mods.

Trentimus

Just going over what has been done to go over what would be optimal

spdandpwr

Thanks guys...haha, watch me screw this up. Either way, wheels are last, mounts and suspension are being weight against flashpro and downpipe right now.

spdandpwr

I found Enkei RS7 17x7 ET 35 on Dunlop Direzza Z1 215/45r17 tires for 700. Is it worth it? The wheels weigh nothing and the rubber is plenty grippy from what I hear.

spdandpwr

I think with that offset, it won't look too bad.

Trentimus

Stock width so you couldn't go up much in tire if you wanted but if it's a good deal and you think you'd be happy go for it.

spdandpwr

Yea, but do you think they'll look good:

Trentimus

I personally don't think they'll look bad at all.. But I wouldn't go with such a mild setup personally

usdmJON

Theyll look great, 700 for 17in enkeis with tires that have decent life left is a great deal!

If you like the sizing then jump on it!

spdandpwr

So I got around to installing the bar the right way, lol. Lemme say, I feel a bit of a difference, and not having the rattle makes the car feel premium again. Also important to note that there is plenty of clearance:



oh hai, the bar dented the catback:

spdandpwr

Oh yea, the bar was also rubbing against the upper control arm (on driver side) and the gas tank...so don't go putting these things upside down, kids.

Trentimus

Lol I can attest to that.. No problem here

spdandpwr

So my vtec broke car won't go past 4000 rpm...I think it has to do with oil pressure because my car is deep into 5k miles without an oil change. I'll schedule something for this week and see what happens.

Trentimus

*gasp* that's not cool! Let us know what you find out..

spdandpwr

yea, will do. sucks that the car is acting up since it's so new...and the mid said there is oil life left. If the oil is an issue, I am definitely not following the MID again.

Trentimus

I dont see how you could have an oil issue at 5K though... it's weird

spdandpwr

I have 10.5k miles. There was member on the 9th civic forum who was reporting an issue with his vtec solenoid.

Trentimus

10.5K miles on your first oil change??

spdandpwr

No, sorry: 10.5k miles total. 5.5k on my oil. As it stands, it's definitely not the cleanest oil, after having checked. I do think that the MID is deceiving in terms of determining oil levels and change intervals. I'm going to go with religiously changing the oil at 4.5k - 5k. That is, of course, if this proves to be the problem. But with NO CEL popping up, I think it's an oil pressure issue, created by lack of oil.

Trentimus

Hm.. that's odd. Maybe your car has a little irregular oil consumption going on.. You should track that after you get an oil change.