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Old May 23, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Was going to buy tsx and now ilx...

Hi all,

I got a great deal on a tsx with tech package and today I found out that it might be because it's rumored that it might get discontinued.

I need to buy a car soon and wanted to know when dealers in my area will have them this month or next

Is it being reviewed and how are the reviews where can I find out the reviews.

Should I consider this or go with a tsx even if it gets discontinued.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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so what's the issue with the TSX being discontinued?

the ILX will be a tad smaller than the current TSX.

what are you looking for in either car???? hard to help if you don't tell us YOUR criteria for purchasing the vehicle in question.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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The ILX is a new smaller car, made to start at a slightly lower price point and have a wider spread of models. It is fun to drive and nicely refined, but the TSX is still a step up in space and overall refinement.

At some point it may fill in the spot where the TSX currently stands, but that's not going to be immediate. Which vehicle do you like more? Did you feel the TSX was larger than you wanted?
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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The tsx with tech comes with a more powerful and torquey inline 4 motor which gives it the edge in acceleration (albeit a small one) over the ilx tech.

Don't forget that the tsx can be had for less than msrp too...kind of a no brainer in my eyes, unless you need a smaller car with improved handling.

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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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The tsx with tech comes with a more powerful and torquey inline 4 motor which gives it the edge in acceleration (albeit a small one) over the ilx tech. From what I read, the tsx also has sharper steering and handling characteristics....

Don't forget that the tsx can be had for less than msrp too...kind of a no brainer in my eyes

This!! If you do end up w/ the TSX, at least you will have the latest and greatest of that model
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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This!! If you do end up w/ the TSX, at least you will have the latest and greatest of that model
The TSX is the better deal.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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1. Acura has stated that the TSX is staying for now. Rumors of its demise are exaggerated.

2. The TSX is simply a better deal right now. Plus, it simply rocks (speaking as someone who has test-driven it....it's a fabulous little car!)

3. As noted above, if you need a smaller car, the ILX is for you.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocket_man
The TSX is the better deal.

agreed. That's why we bought one
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:09 AM
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Its not a matter of getting a smaller car. We like the TSX, it was going to be my commute car thats why we are buying a second car. But my wife does not feel comfortable buying something and paying for it for 60 months knowing that it will get discontinued in a year or two.

And the reason for thinking of ILX is since we want to be in that price range and get entry level luxury with Acura tech.

The other option is to lease a bmw 3 series.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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TSX is simply a better car, and is the European Accord. The name may go away, but they're not going to stop making the Euro Accord.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tin369
Its not a matter of getting a smaller car. We like the TSX, it was going to be my commute car thats why we are buying a second car. But my wife does not feel comfortable buying something and paying for it for 60 months knowing that it will get discontinued in a year or two.

And the reason for thinking of ILX is since we want to be in that price range and get entry level luxury with Acura tech.

The other option is to lease a bmw 3 series.
it's not like the warranty will expire or the dealer won't know how to fix it. the TSX is a nice car.

the logic here does not make sense. it's not like people aren't going to buy and RL because they rebadged the next gen RL and "RLX". people didnt' stop buying the RSX during it's last production yr run in 2006. the TSX long term will still be a desirable car even after the model gets the axe if it does. i say get what you want at the best deal for what you get. live in the here and now.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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TSX is based on the European Accord. The ILX is based on the Civic. I think a base TSX is comparably equipped as the ILX Premium.

Base TSX: $30k
ILX Premium: $29k
TSX Tech: $33k
ILX Tech: $31.5k

People are able to receive discount for the TSX. I'd imagine you can easily get a TSX tech for $32k, which isn't much more than the ILX Tech. I'd definitely get the TSX instead.

The powertrains in the ILX will be updated soon as well, so it might be a good time to buy it just yet.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tin369
Its not a matter of getting a smaller car. We like the TSX, it was going to be my commute car thats why we are buying a second car. But my wife does not feel comfortable buying something and paying for it for 60 months knowing that it will get discontinued in a year or two.

And the reason for thinking of ILX is since we want to be in that price range and get entry level luxury with Acura tech.

The other option is to lease a bmw 3 series.
Interesting forum. Thought I'd stop in to perhaps gain some insight into the new car. And to my surprise..... no one here yet that has actually bought one! Shouldn't take long though. I won't add too much since I haven't seen or touched an ILX (and am unlikely to anytime soon; overpriced by at least 10% in my opinion). I will comment on the lifespan of the TSX though. There's no doubt in my mind that 2013 will be the last model year (for whatever that's worth). And Acura will tell us anything to try and assuage that blow. Look no further than the post I've piggybacked on here as an example of what Acura is worried about. I'm also fairly sure that we won't have to wait too long to see the replacement for the TSX and the TL (model split, 1 for 2).
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Dealers aré starting to get ilx's so go check them out. Since They aré the first model year They aré prone to the first model year problems. Personally I woul d buy the tsx. I have had Excel lent luck with mine.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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i really don't know why your wife is worried that the tsx would get discontinued. even if it does, it doesn't mean that the car is bad or that it's no longer going to be able to do the things you bought it to do. is she really thinking this through or is she thinking that "discontinued" is synonymous with shitty car?
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Old May 24, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tin369
The other option is to lease a bmw 3 series.
So why not just lease a TSX then? It'll allow you lower payments, you'll still get to enjoy the car, and you don't have to worry about depreciated value in a few years because you just turn the car in and be done with it.

And in a couple of years, you can evaluate whether or not the ILX is a good buy because it will be a few years into the model cycle and might have been revised to include additional features and functionality that are not available on the current version.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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So why not just lease a TSX then? It'll allow you lower payments, you'll still get to enjoy the car, and you don't have to worry about depreciated value in a few years because you just turn the car in and be done with it.

And in a couple of years, you can evaluate whether or not the ILX is a good buy because it will be a few years into the model cycle and might have been revised to include additional features and functionality that are not available on the current version.
that's exactly what I did
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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If you like the car, the fact that it's about to be discontinued shouldn't stop you from buying, unless you want to wait until it's officially been announced to snag a bargain though from the looks of it, Acura is discounting TSXs pretty heavily to get them on the road and off dealer lots.

For me personally, this would be an easy decision- I'd buy the TSX with Tech. As others have stated, you could lease the TSX and then see where the ILX goes in a few years.
My parents bought a discontinued model (Infiniti I35) many years ago and it's been one of their best ownership experiences to date.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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If you like the car, the fact that it's about to be discontinued shouldn't stop you from buying, unless you want to wait until it's officially been announced to snag a bargain though from the looks of it, Acura is discounting TSXs pretty heavily to get them on the road and off dealer lots.

For me personally, this would be an easy decision- I'd buy the TSX with Tech. As others have stated, you could lease the TSX and then see where the ILX goes in a few years.
My parents bought a discontinued model (Infiniti I35) many years ago and it's been one of their best ownership experiences to date.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nj2pa2nc
Dealers aré starting to get ilx's so go check them out. Since They aré the first model year They aré prone to the first model year problems. Personally I woul d buy the tsx. I have had Excel lent luck with mine.
This

Perfect example is the first model year TSX. They had their share of problems, but they seemed to be all ironed out by the second model year.

If space is at all a concern, I'd go with the TSX hands down. I've got an 08, which is a little smaller than the current model. My gf just got a 2012 Civic. Its noticeably smaller inside than the TSX.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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If I heard a model was being re-designed, I'd be hesitant to buy it because I'd be worried I'd feel I had an out of date car and would want the newer one. Think about the discontinue Supra or other similar cars that were discontinued.

However, a discontinued car wouldn't bother me as much. Just like many other suggested, I say just go ahead and get the TSX and don't worry that it might be discontinued.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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The current TSX is a good car with several years of de-bugging under its belt. The fact that is will likely only be around one more model year shouldn't be a problem or concern to buying one.

The ILX is a brand new car that will likely have a few bugs, but more importantly, in one or two model years will get new engines that will be slightly more powerful and slightly higher in fuel efficiency (the Earth Dreams engines). That will hurt resale value of 1st year ILX's far more than buying a last model year TSX.

If I were in the market for an ILX I would wait a year. I understand people may not have the luxury to wait, in that case the TSX is a bargain in comparison.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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I just re-read my post above. I put a sentence out of place and it doesn't make much sense. Here's what I meant to say...

If I heard a model was being re-designed, I'd be hesitant to buy it because I'd be worried I'd feel I had an out of date car and would want the newer one.

However, a discontinued car wouldn't bother me as much. Think about the discontinued Supra or other similar cars that were discontinued. People still want them and the fact that it was discontinued doesn't really affect perception or resale.

Just like many others already suggested, I say just go ahead and get the TSX and don't worry that it might be discontinued.
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jhumbo
I just re-read my post above. I put a sentence out of place and it doesn't make much sense. Here's what I meant to say...

If I heard a model was being re-designed, I'd be hesitant to buy it because I'd be worried I'd feel I had an out of date car and would want the newer one.

However, a discontinued car wouldn't bother me as much. Think about the discontinued Supra or other similar cars that were discontinued. People still want them and the fact that it was discontinued doesn't really affect perception or resale.

Just like many others already suggested, I say just go ahead and get the TSX and don't worry that it might be discontinued.
now you're making sense
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Old May 26, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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However, a discontinued car wouldn't bother me as much. Think about the discontinued Supra or other similar cars that were discontinued. People still want them and the fact that it was discontinued doesn't really affect perception or resale.
But you can't compare a car like the Supra and its demand after discontinuation to a TSX...you are talking about one of the greatest sports cars of the 90s [at its peak]!
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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I'm in the market for either a tsx (SE manual) or ilx (2.4 manual) too. I went to the dealer to compare the two a few times already, but this is my takeaway so far (I am going to exclude the overall dimensions and focus on features):

Advantages the TSX base has over the ILX w/ premium package:
1. memory seats
2. power passenger seats
3. side mirror turn signal indicators
4. made in japan vs. made in usa
5. much better leasing/financing program at the moment
6. AC vents for rear passengers
7. seatback storage pockets on the driver seat
8. Lumbar support? I could not find the button for it but I definitely felt the hump pushing against my spine when I sat in the car. The ILX does not have that.
9. Also felt that the TSX has better side bolsters.

Advantages the ILX premium w/ premium package over the TSX base:
1. Pandora
2. SMS text displaying/reading? capabilities
3. Backup camera
4. Push button start
5. Keyless access
6. 5" color display
7. Better insulation? (Not sure since I did not request for a test drive, but according to other sites, they emphasize that the ILX has new sound proofing measures/technologies)

Neutral/Debatable features
1. TSX uses a timing chain, ILX uses a timing belt
2. TSX uses the double-wishbone and rear multi-link suspensions, ILX uses a combination of MacPherson struts for the front suspension and a multi-link arrangement in the rear

That pretty much covers it. I am sure I'm missing something else so please feel free to add to it. At this time, I feel dollar for dollar, the TSX is a better package. The TSX's leasing/financing options are pretty aggressive, whereas the ILX's leasing/financing options are pretty laughable. What I am interested in is the 2.4L manual, and since the ILX is over 400 lbs lighter than the TSX, I am interested in seeing if it makes a huge difference in handling, performance and cornering.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Neutral/Debatable features
1. TSX uses a timing chain, ILX uses a timing belt
the ilx is chain driven as well:


  • Chain drive, SOHC, i-VTEC® 16-valve: 2.0L
  • Chain drive, DOHC, i-VTEC® 16-valve: 2.4L
  • Chain drive, SOHC, i-VTEC® 8-valve: Hybrid
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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At this moment, if you are looking at the ILX 2.0 model, the TSX is the better deal.

2.4L model is a little different though as it has the same power as the TSX 6MT but with much less weight for better performance.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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both the tsx and the ILX (manual) uses the k24 engine, so they will be both timing chain.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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I think I saw in pictures that the rear seat in the ILX folds in one piece as opposed to the 60/40 rear seat in the TSX
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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I think I saw in pictures that the rear seat in the ILX folds in one piece as opposed to the 60/40 rear seat in the TSX
That is correct.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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I was following a brand new black one for about 30+ minuites on I5 heading north to San Francisco. Looks good.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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I don't understand. If it in fact the tsx were going to be discontinued, why would that matter if you buy a tsx now?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coooolwhip
I don't understand. If it in fact the tsx were going to be discontinued, why would that matter if you buy a tsx now?
X2. In fact, I think its nice to own the last gen car knowing there wont be a new/improved version.
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Originally Posted by explodinghands
I'm in the market for either a tsx (SE manual) or ilx (2.4 manual) too. I went to the dealer to compare the two a few times already, but this is my takeaway so far (I am going to exclude the overall dimensions and focus on features):

Advantages the TSX base has over the ILX w/ premium package:
1. memory seats
2. power passenger seats
3. side mirror turn signal indicators
4. made in japan vs. made in usa
5. much better leasing/financing program at the moment
6. AC vents for rear passengers
7. seatback storage pockets on the driver seat
8. Lumbar support? I could not find the button for it but I definitely felt the hump pushing against my spine when I sat in the car. The ILX does not have that.
9. Also felt that the TSX has better side bolsters.

Advantages the ILX premium w/ premium package over the TSX base:
1. Pandora
2. SMS text displaying/reading? capabilities
3. Backup camera
4. Push button start
5. Keyless access
6. 5" color display
7. Better insulation? (Not sure since I did not request for a test drive, but according to other sites, they emphasize that the ILX has new sound proofing measures/technologies)

Neutral/Debatable features
1. TSX uses a timing chain, ILX uses a timing belt
2. TSX uses the double-wishbone and rear multi-link suspensions, ILX uses a combination of MacPherson struts for the front suspension and a multi-link arrangement in the rear

That pretty much covers it. I am sure I'm missing something else so please feel free to add to it. At this time, I feel dollar for dollar, the TSX is a better package. The TSX's leasing/financing options are pretty aggressive, whereas the ILX's leasing/financing options are pretty laughable. What I am interested in is the 2.4L manual, and since the ILX is over 400 lbs lighter than the TSX, I am interested in seeing if it makes a huge difference in handling, performance and cornering.
I was at my dealer today for an regular service on our MDX. I wandered around the showroom for a while and honestly - I'm mystified. Unless I'm missing something major, the TSX is a better deal than the ILX in every imaginable scenario. I know the ILX is new and there may be lots of interest in a new model, but I don't know why anyone would buy / lease the ILX over the TSX. I stil have yet to see an ILX on the road.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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I was at my dealer today for an regular service on our MDX. I wandered around the showroom for a while and honestly - I'm mystified. Unless I'm missing something major, the TSX is a better deal than the ILX in every imaginable scenario. I know the ILX is new and there may be lots of interest in a new model, but I don't know why anyone would buy / lease the ILX over the TSX. I stil have yet to see an ILX on the road.


Well, when you compare the 2 side by side, here is my take. The ILX with nav is almost 2k cheaper than a TSX with nav. Its better looking with similar features & gets much better fuel mileage. To me, its a no brainer to go with the ILX.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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I didn't talk with any of the sales folks but the ILX and TSX sitting next to each other in the showroom were within $300 of each other. If I remember correctly, I think they both had Navigation. Again part of what has me bewildered. The ILX is considerably smaller especially in the back seat.

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dealers will negotiate deals on the TSX while the ILX pricing probably won't budge too far off it's selling price since it's a new model and in it's first year. of course demand may dictate if dealers are willing to let them go for invoice or a touch over.

i had the opportunity to "play" in the new ILX. when i sat in it...it felt so small (b/c it is). the interior is nicely done and is similar to that of the one in the RDX. however, i feel if i had driven it i would not necessarily been super impressed knowing what is under the hood and also owning two cars with V-6's. the TSX is peppy by itself, but since owning a TL...the TSX lacked something (yeah...power). my feeling is the ILX would feel the same way to me. the exterior of the ILX....the ass of the car seems short. it has a nubby trunk. the acura grill is refined and much more tolerable and integrated with the rest of teh car as far as styling is concerned. the early 4G grill seemed like it was slapped on there as an afterthought. the 4.5G TL...the grill is looks much better.

given the choices between the TSX and the ILX (if i had to choose)...i like the styling of the ILX, but the TSX would be my choice b/c of value and the slightly bigger size. otherwise, personally...meh. both are slow and a touch small for my tastes.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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TLtrigirl - well put. I could probably live with the TSX, but don't see me stepping all the way down to the ILX.
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The 2.0 liter ILX uses a timing chain http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/ar...spx?id=6562-en
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