Now that I think of it, it shouldn't even be a problem since I'll be putting new crown.

So now my question is, how important was Doom's comment about TrueHD and DTS-HD. I've noticed most lower end receivers (300-500) don't support them.

 

HD tracks are lossless, no compression is used on the storage media so the sound is as good as it can be. There are 2 ways to get HD sound, (1) have a receiver capable of decoding the HD signal from the HDMI feed from your BD player, or (2) have your BD player decode the HD signal internally and send it to your receiver via 5.1 or 7.1 analog cables.

This is one of the main reasons I replaced my Denon 1906 with the new 1909, it decodes the HD signals. I think you can find it on-line for around $485-$500 if you look around enough. If you want to go with option (2) above then your BD player needs to have at least 5.1 analog outputs and your receiver needs to have 5.1 analog inputs. If you're missing any of these then I suggest you just go with a new receiver if you want HD sound.

 

The Onkyo 606 and Denon 1909 will support the new audio format.

 

I upgraded my 14 year old Denon receiver to a current generation Pioneer at the same time I purchased my Blu-Ray player. While I was suitably impressed with the image quality I got out of the BDP, I was blown away by the improved sound quality I got with the new receiver and HD audio formats. Dougler just essentially said the same thing about his new receiver (a Yamaha) over in the toy thread.

 

Looks like there's some research to do....and money to spend. Cheapest receiver up here that supports those formats is $699. No rush anyway.

 

You just missed a killer deal on the Yamaha htr-6190b (rxv1800) it was 699 for boxing day, from 1299. My brother and I both picked one up, I'm just giving it, it's first paces today and well all I can say is WOW. I'm pretty sure futureshop has since discontinued it. There could still be one kicking around your local store though, it might be worth checking out.

 

I don't see it on-line. I'll check it out in store when I get a chance.

 

Now remember my Dad is 75 and doesn't care about hiding/tucking wires etc. as much as I do. And as you can see in the pics you can also make your own corner speaker brackets

 

He could have at least tucked in the bottom wire.

And aren't those too high? Should the rears be lower. I put the rears I have upstairs in the corner like that and was told their too high.

 

I know.. I looked at them last night and got up close to take a pic then realized how much was hanging out. I almost cleaned it up but decided not to. The weird part is you can't even notice when you're not up close and staring at it.


They are a bit high. I would've atleast angled them to a more direct hearing level. but.. he's 75 with a hearing aid and is happy with it.. so I let it be..

 

The fact that a 75 year old cares enough about installing surround sound is great in itself.

 

I just installed the back set of my 7.1 surround sound setup as in-wall speakers. They are 6.5" in-wall speakers, and the wires are run in the attic in my one-story house. I love the look of them.

I used to have the ugly black speakers hanging about 50" up from the floor. Now the in-wall speakers are 26" from the floor, and they coincide with the front stereo speakers.

 

I have the original Yamaha YSP-1 in my room with a sub and you would be amazed in the right room how good this things sounds. I worked for a upper end audio retailer for 4 years and have a pretty good ear but almost every time I watch a movie it amazes me to this day.

Every time someone hears it you just see them looking around the room looking for the satilite speakers. Hell I even find myself looking to the sides or rear on occasion.

 

Question about hook ups. And this may be a stupid question so bear with me.

My Satellite receiver has component and DVI to HDMI connections. Which means I need to run RCA cables to get sound. If I run the RCA cables from the Sat Rec to an AVR and then have an HDMI going from the AVR to TV will it still carry sound? Can it convert from the RCA to HDMI?

 

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but you should be able to run your HMDI from your sat box straight to your AVR, then Output from your AVR to your TV. If you get a decent reciever that has the HDMI inputs/outputs that is.

Personally, i'm picking this up today.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665361523

 

The Sat box doesn't have HDMI in. Only component and DVI.

 

Don't need an HDMI In for sat box, only HDMI out

 

You can't hook up an HDMI cable to it, only DVI or component. Both of which require RCA cables for sound.

 

If you have an AVR, you don't need to feed the sound to the tv, the rca cables will feed the sound from your sat box to your AVR and then to your speakers. If you want to get Dolby Digital sound from your sat box, you'll need an optical or coaxial cable to feed the audio signal to your AVR.

 

That makes sense and the Sat Box does have Optical sound so that will work. But, what if I don't always want the speakers to be on and rather just get sound from the TV?

What I'm trying to accomplish here is only having 1 cable (HDMI) going from the AVR to the TV. So if I have optical going from the Sat Box to the AVR and then and HDMI from the AVR to the TV, will all my sound needs should be covered?

 

Use the optical out from your SAT to feed your AVR and the RCA out from your SAT to feed the TV and you should be OK soundwise. You can go component from your SAT to your TV directly.

 

Enjoy. I got mine last summer. Play with the settings though. My only problem with it is that sometimes the sub hits loud while vocal is low. This is mostly when I watch satellite TV though. For BD it's berry nice.

 

That's what I was thinking as well, but then Dom may have to go into the sat box setup and switch the audio outputs whenever he wants to change between internal TV sound and AVR.

 

Thanks man, I'm looking forward to picking it up later.

 

I don't think it's possible that way, but I could be wrong. I don't believe the AVR would feed the audio signal to the tv through hdmi with the AVR turned off (I'm guessing you'd have the AVR off to have no sound coming out of the speakers). Another possibility would be to wire an optical cable to the AVR and the rca cables directly to the tv. I know it defeats the purpose of the all-in-one solution of an hdmi cable, but I think that's the only way to have the option of using both the tv speakers and the speakers hooked up to the AVR receiving sound separately.

 

Hmmm, I didn't think of that. I assumed that the SAT box would have both the optical and analog audio outputs enabled simulaneously.

 

FYI, the box is pretty huge

 

Yea, i looked up on Ebay to see how big the box is. I am at work and I'm gonna feel a bit funny walking into my office with the huge box

 

Ok, I guess I can't have it both ways but I'd place greater importance on having only 1 cable going to the TV. If that means always using the speakers then so be it.

So having a DVI to HDMI cable or Component along with an optical audio cable going from the Sat box to AVR and then having the HDMI cable go from the AVR to TV will work?

 

Does it output HD sound?


The price is right. And how does that work, do you still require a receiver?

 

it outputs HD sound. It supports HDMI video/audio connection. I only have one HDMI from my TV to the AVR. Then one HDMI from AVR to HD DVR and one from AVR to PS3. I won't mention the Wii as that will confuse things.

The receiver is actually the sub. The remote sensor is in the speakers so you can put the sub wherever. When you want to switch from TV to BD player, you just hit the button on the remote. It doesn't have toggle button for the inputs. It just has an input button for each respective input depending where you plug the HDMI cables to in the back of the sub/receiver. Personally, I just leave the sub on all day and turn off the TV, PS3, and HD DVR when away. Then again I'm using the DirecTV remote instead of an universal.

 

I've done a lot of research. This thing is pretty golden. Only problems i've heard of is volume level, but I live in a small apartment, so no worries for me. Take a look at a Cnet's review.

http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater...rColumnArea2.1

 

I currently don't have a receiver that has HDMI. I want one though.

I run the HDMI cable directly from my Blu-Ray player or my DVR to the TV. My TV accepts two HDMI inputs.

I run audio signals from my DVR and Blu-Ray player to my receiver through optical cables. No, I don't have HD-DTS decoding signals for the receiver, or anything like that, but the sound is great. I love it.

The HDMI signals carries both the video AND sound. Right now, the sound on the TV is on mute. If I wanted to watch a video quietly, I can do so by turning off the receiver and turning on the TV volume. It works great.

 

It seems nearly all AVR's are different with how they handle sound streams, but generally if your digital in, it will output via HDMI. So what I would do from your STB is run the DVI-HDMI cable to the AVR and use the Optical for audio. It should pass the audio through the HDMI on to your tv. Also don't forget you will probably still need a Optical cable from the TV to the AVR if you plan to use the TV's content handling capabilities (content menu, Wiselink, DLNA, etc)

 

Good point.

 

Do you ever notice a discrepancy between the audio and video with that setup. I would think there could be a delay with two different devices decoding the audio and video.

 

I would expect situations where that could occur. His setup is ass backwards and a waste of tax payers dollars

The correct way to set that up, is run your HDMI from you DVR and Blu-Ray to the TV and then 1 Optical cable from the TV back to the AVR. The AVR will always stay on the same input which eliminates device switching annoyances and if you want sound from just the tv all you have to do is either mute the AVR or just turn it off. This way eliminates a cable too.