Outlaw06

According to the HDBaseT press release, LG Electronics, Samsung Electronics, Sony Pictures Entertainment and Valens Semiconductor are working to kill HDMI. They are trying to replace it with a new standard which will transport the video and audio signals through an ethernet cable. The new stardard will be called HDBaseT.

In the past when industry groups create new standards for audio and video delivery they create a proprietary cable to go with it, but with HDBaseT any Cat 5e/6 cable that you might have laying around will get the job done. "The cornerstone of HDBaseT technology is 5Play™, an unrivaled feature-set that converges full uncompressed HD video, audio, 100BaseT Ethernet, high power over cable and various control signals through a single 100m/328ft CAT5e/6 LAN cable. HDBaseT has the bandwidth to support the highest video resolutions such as full HD 1080p as well as 3D and 2Kx4K formats. HDBaseT is the first to provide all-in-one connectivity, making it possible for a single-connector TV to receive power, video/audio, Internet and control signals from the same cable."

The goal of the technology is to allow all of your devices to be networked together which will allow communication and media sharing throughout the entire house. The technology is expected to be available by the second half of 2011. Companies will be able to license the technology this year which means we should see some of devices show up at CES 2011 in January.

princelybug

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Nice!

dallison

suite

svtmike

Really? Power over a standard Cat5e/6 cable?

mdkxtreme

I love standards. Which is why I don't like Sony sometimes for going proprietary.

svtmike

And this is why you've missed out on the glory that is the MiniDiscMan player.

MWalsh9152

I cant wait to go buy a top of the line $5000 Cat5 cable to get the most out of my blueray player

fsttyms1

has potential.

Whiskers

Wires are so 21st century...

hornyleprechaun

Damn our IT guy just threw out 100s of ethernet cables that we no longer needed... I could have sold them in a couple of years to idiots who don't know how much they really cost!

doopstr

No way will they be putting AC on that cable. I imagine it would be similar to what to do now to power VOIP phones and wireless access points.

stogie1020

Can't wait for Monster to sell ones with gold tips for $350...

goose25

Those are some overpriced mofos at Monster.

stogie1020

I love the idea of standards, but come on... Someone better come out with a HDMI to RJ45 adapter or everyone is going to have replace their TVs, Receivers, splitters, etc...

svtmike

I like it only if it means I can have a single source that I can send to any TV sitting on my network in the house. And only if I can get that conversion from Ethernet HD to HDMI so I don't need all new TVs again.

CocheseUGA

You can already run HDMI over Cat5e/6, and they do make converters if you don't want to do your own wiring.

svtmike

That's a wee difference from HDMI over Ethernet.

MWalsh9152

mcflyguy24

Why was HDMI even created in the first place if all they ever needed was an ethernet cable?

stogie1020

CocheseUGA

It'll all just be a matter of signal identification.

hdcolumbus

Standards, pfft. Which standard? 5E, 6, 6A, 7, 7A--hell, there are 3 different termination standards in 6 alone.

doopstr

If your stereo and TV had a half dozen ethernet ports that really did different things then there would be a lot of people setting their equipment on fire.

TS_eXpeed

srika

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jptl04

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Hi Scott

fuzzy02CLS

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Just another way to make $.

juniorbean

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But no worries b/c Monoprice.com will have them for $7.99!!

Moog-Type-S

Hurray for having to buy all new gear!!!

srika

after a night's sleep, I am ready to post more than just a website address.

this is a stupid, stupid idea. HDMI is a great standard. there is no fucking reason to change to something else, period, end of story. these vultures are just looking for more ways to make money. that is all. and, I hate them. the end.

svtmike

The only thing HDMI really needs is a better way to retain the cable in the connector.

juniorbean

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How do you figure?
Not sure about you, but I have several of these cable laying around and I am probably the least techie of my friends. Worse case scenario you can pick one up for a few bucks from Lowe's or Home Depot. Or, you can keep Radio Shack in business. Either way, they're not expensive by any means.

It's not like they're inventing a whole new cable which everyone will need to run out to buy to re-connect their existing equipment. They're using a cable that has been around for decades, is very inexpensive, and is readily available and produced by dozens of manufacturers.

srika

they are tied in with all the manufacturers as they supply them products and technology. everyone will have to buy new equipment (I thought we already covered this).

TS_eXpeed

srika

yeah, after working in IT for 10 yrs I have similar concerns as well - and another reason why I'm really annoyed by this -

juniorbean

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Where does it say that? I mean, I have a brand new LED TV purchased in winter of 2009/2010 and it still has RCA and S-Video inputs. Nothing forced me to buy an HDMI cable. In theory I could still watch the TV using my yellow, red, and white RCA cable. It won't be in 1080p, but it will work.

How long have VCRs been outdated? I still have one and it's connected to my plasma using RCA cables. Still works fine and I wasn't forced to buy anything new to get it to connect it to today's TV sets.

So 2 years from now that new TV I have will still work fine and my HDMI cable will still work fine connected to my receiver, or X360, or Blu Ray player, or PS3, or cable box or whatever else. Sure newer TV's may come with another input for Ethernet if the standard is approved and released, but that doesn't mean my existing equipment will not work with it using HDMI. Nothing would be forcing me to go out and replace all of my devices.

srika

what are all the ways you can send 1080p content from your cable box to your TV?

TS_eXpeed

I don't know about his, but mine is I think HDMI and Component

juniorbean

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Our 1080p sets also support both HDMI and component. Cable box is irrelevant anyway as that is free from the cable company. When we upgraded to HD in our bedroom I just went to the local service desk (at the mall) and swapped out my standard box for an HD box no problem. Called them when it was hooked up, they downloaded the HD tier, and done.

It also seems to me that the article is extremely dramatic. HDMI may be replaced by ethernet as the "connection of choice", but that doesn't mean it will go away completely. They're not fools, they know people are not going to run out and buy thousands (or possibly tens of thousands) of dollars of new equipment b/c of this. You think the cable companies are going to run out to source and replace all of the cable boxes out there? No way. I mean I can still hook up my cable box with a coax and red/white RCA if I wanted to. No way they'll be removing HDMI outputs anytime soon. You will see HDMI connections on TV's and other devices for years and years to come. Same way new sets still have composite, s-video, and other "antiquated" connections today. New stuff comes out but the sets have to remain backwards compatible to some degree.

TeknoKing

This is news? I've been extending HDMI signal via Ethernet cables (4 pairs) for over 2 years now...and it is garbage...

BUT, HDMI 1.4:

What will I be able to do with an HDMI Ethernet Channel -enabled device?

The HDMI Ethernet Channel enables a number of new possibilities via the HDMI link, including:

* Sharing an internet connection – The HDMI Ethernet Channel feature allows your internet-ready entertainment devices, from gaming consoles to Blu-ray Disc players and more, to share an internet connection without any need for a separate Ethernet cable.

* Content distribution – Devices connected by the HDMI Ethernet Channel will be able to exchange digital content in its native format, enabling recording, storage, and playback options across a connected system, with no need for a separate Ethernet cable.

* Home entertainment networking – The HDMI Ethernet Channel accommodates current and future IP-based networking solutions for consumer electronics, such as UPnP, LiquidHD, and DLNA. HDMI with Ethernet is the ideal one-cable solution for connecting devices in these advanced home-networking environments.

HDMI will NOT be replaced by inferior cat cables, BUT will be combined to achieve internet content (TCP) and digital video/audio transmission.