Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD?
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
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bluray players offer the free movies as well
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The CHEAP HD DVD players are NOT 1080P
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
I will again wait some time to figure out what's going to happen. If BluRay is going to be the king, the prices of the players will come down just like they did with DVD. And then lets see what happens with the next format.
Toshiba's 1080p cost $300 or more. And the discounts on the current HDDVD movies are only to sell, if HDDVD was the only player, there wouldn't be the current discounts.
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As an owner of both, I'd say the overall cost is the same for either format. Yes, Blu-ray players are more expensive, but up to this point, Blu-ray has had far more sales and BOGOs on movies than HD DVD. I've probably paid, on average, $12 per movie on Blu-ray, but $20 on HD DVD.
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
As an owner of both, I'd say the overall cost is the same for either format. Yes, Blu-ray players are more expensive, but up to this point, Blu-ray has had far more sales and BOGOs on movies than HD DVD. I've probably paid, on average, $12 per movie on Blu-ray, but $20 on HD DVD.
Movies, they are in the same ballpark pending where you look to buy. But I'm starting to see more deals on BR now that companies think its the winning format.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
A 1080p bluray and 1080p hd-dvd player cost the same.
Movies, they are in the same ballpark pending where you look to buy. But I'm starting to see more deals on BR now that companies think its the winning format.
Movies, they are in the same ballpark pending where you look to buy. But I'm starting to see more deals on BR now that companies think its the winning format.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
A 1080p bluray and 1080p hd-dvd player cost the same.
Movies, they are in the same ballpark pending where you look to buy. But I'm starting to see more deals on BR now that companies think its the winning format.
Movies, they are in the same ballpark pending where you look to buy. But I'm starting to see more deals on BR now that companies think its the winning format.
wait, but I thought adam said that HD movies were cheaper
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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Originally Posted by CLpower
wait, but I thought adam said that HD movies were cheaper ![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
It has always really depended on the title. But yes initially the BR were more expensive by about 5 bucks average.
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Initially was a year ago
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Originally Posted by CLpower
my experience is the opposite, just walking over to BB right now, most HD-DVD's are 34.99 while BR's are 29.99. It's been that way since I started buying BR movies back in Dec 2006
blu ray discs
hd dvd discs
on the left hand side look at the price ranges and the # of discs in those groups. more then 66% of HD discs are < $25. For blu-ray it's more like 50% <$25, 50%>$25
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http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/ne...y/19045/?biz=1
Now Microsoft is Not Considering Blu-ray
Marketing manager Albert Penello says that Reuters misconstrued what he said in their report and that Microsoft is not even thinking about supporting Blu-ray for Xbox.
Posted by James Brightman on Thursday, January 10, 2008
Despite a Reuters article earlier this week, which indicated that Microsoft would consider Blu-ray for Xbox 360 in the event of a total defeat for HD DVD, Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox, has now refuted the report, telling Gizmodo that the "headline misconstrued the context of what I said."
He stressed that Microsoft is "not thinking about it" and has "no plans" to create anything based on the Blu-ray format. Furthermore, Microsoft remains "totally committed to HD DVD" and the format is only dead "when Toshiba says they're not doing HD DVD anymore."
Some believe that could be in the not too distant future, but Toshiba said it "remains firm in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the consumer."
Marketing manager Albert Penello says that Reuters misconstrued what he said in their report and that Microsoft is not even thinking about supporting Blu-ray for Xbox.
Posted by James Brightman on Thursday, January 10, 2008
Despite a Reuters article earlier this week, which indicated that Microsoft would consider Blu-ray for Xbox 360 in the event of a total defeat for HD DVD, Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox, has now refuted the report, telling Gizmodo that the "headline misconstrued the context of what I said."
He stressed that Microsoft is "not thinking about it" and has "no plans" to create anything based on the Blu-ray format. Furthermore, Microsoft remains "totally committed to HD DVD" and the format is only dead "when Toshiba says they're not doing HD DVD anymore."
Some believe that could be in the not too distant future, but Toshiba said it "remains firm in our belief that HD DVD is the format best suited to the wants and needs of the consumer."
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Albert Penello is a tard.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
It has always really depended on the title. But yes initially the BR were more expensive by about 5 bucks average.
$25 was probably the average I spend on an HD DVD movie, but the price definitely varies by title.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Actually I didn't buy it because I was unemployed. But simply if in a few years, the player were to break (and these have had issues), what am I to do to watch them?
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so, if Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD is basically Sony vs.Toshiba I'm a bit confused about this:
http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=rssne...&rn=videogames
http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=rssne...&rn=videogames
Toshiba Shows Prototype TV Running on PS3 Chip (PC World)
What happens when you take the powerful Cell microprocessor, the chip that sits at the heart of the PlayStation 3 games console, and put it to use inside a television? Toshiba is demonstrated just such a TV at this week's International Consumer Electronics Show and the results are impressive.
The Cell chip was developed by Toshiba along with IBM, Sony and Sony Computer Entertainment, and is dedicated to graphics processing. Each chip contains a single Power PC core and eight co-processors to make heavy-duty processing of video a breeze.
While Sony developed the chip for its PlayStation 3, Toshiba invested money in the project with an eye to using the device in consumer electronics products. Until CES, the company hadn't shown a Cell-powered consumer device, but a pair of flat-panel TVs on its booth at the trade show have changed that.
The first and perhaps most relevant benefit of putting the Cell inside a television is the abi
lity to handle real-time upscaling of standard definition TV to high-def. With more and more HDTV channels, we get more and more used to the crisp, sharp quality offered by HD and that makes standard definition look poor. With a Cell-powered TV you'd be able to enjoy regular channels in higher quality much closer to that of HD, said Hiroaki Komaki, a specialist at Toshiba's core technology center in Tokyo.
The upscaling doesn't stop there. The same feature can be used to zoom in on an area of an HDTV picture, enlarge that single area, and then improve it's image quality. Imagine zooming in on a home movie of a sports event and getting closer to the action.
The Cell also makes it possible to easily navigate a number of video channels simultaneously. In a demo at CES, the chip was streaming 48 chapters from a standard-definition video file in real-time, with each appearing as a video thumbnail on the screen. Clicking on one of the clips would bring it up on the lower half of the screen, with 16 chapters still running in the upper half. Another push on the button would move it to full screen.
If the video streams were HD, it would be able to process six in real-time and display them on the screen, said Komaki.
Toshiba still hasn't decided exactly what features it will build into a Cell-based TV, nor has it decided when such a set will go on sale. One thing Toshiba isn't planning on doing is building a PlayStation 3 gaming system into its TVs. The chips may be the same but Komaki said such a combination isn't likely.
The company has been chasing the idea of Cell-based consumer electronics since it signed on with Sony and IBM to develop the chip in 2001.
What happens when you take the powerful Cell microprocessor, the chip that sits at the heart of the PlayStation 3 games console, and put it to use inside a television? Toshiba is demonstrated just such a TV at this week's International Consumer Electronics Show and the results are impressive.
The Cell chip was developed by Toshiba along with IBM, Sony and Sony Computer Entertainment, and is dedicated to graphics processing. Each chip contains a single Power PC core and eight co-processors to make heavy-duty processing of video a breeze.
While Sony developed the chip for its PlayStation 3, Toshiba invested money in the project with an eye to using the device in consumer electronics products. Until CES, the company hadn't shown a Cell-powered consumer device, but a pair of flat-panel TVs on its booth at the trade show have changed that.
The first and perhaps most relevant benefit of putting the Cell inside a television is the abi
lity to handle real-time upscaling of standard definition TV to high-def. With more and more HDTV channels, we get more and more used to the crisp, sharp quality offered by HD and that makes standard definition look poor. With a Cell-powered TV you'd be able to enjoy regular channels in higher quality much closer to that of HD, said Hiroaki Komaki, a specialist at Toshiba's core technology center in Tokyo.
The upscaling doesn't stop there. The same feature can be used to zoom in on an area of an HDTV picture, enlarge that single area, and then improve it's image quality. Imagine zooming in on a home movie of a sports event and getting closer to the action.
The Cell also makes it possible to easily navigate a number of video channels simultaneously. In a demo at CES, the chip was streaming 48 chapters from a standard-definition video file in real-time, with each appearing as a video thumbnail on the screen. Clicking on one of the clips would bring it up on the lower half of the screen, with 16 chapters still running in the upper half. Another push on the button would move it to full screen.
If the video streams were HD, it would be able to process six in real-time and display them on the screen, said Komaki.
Toshiba still hasn't decided exactly what features it will build into a Cell-based TV, nor has it decided when such a set will go on sale. One thing Toshiba isn't planning on doing is building a PlayStation 3 gaming system into its TVs. The chips may be the same but Komaki said such a combination isn't likely.
The company has been chasing the idea of Cell-based consumer electronics since it signed on with Sony and IBM to develop the chip in 2001.
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Originally Posted by is300eater
so, if Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD is basically Sony vs.Toshiba I'm a bit confused about this:
http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=rssne...&rn=videogames
http://wap.oa.yahoo.com/raw?dp=rssne...&rn=videogames
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor
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Toshiba and Sony are also helping to create technology to send HD signals from a player to the display without wires. Consumers are way more passionate about this "war" than the companies.
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If HD DVD does go under and loose the format 'war'. Do you think they'll Liquidate all their player's movies, etc...? I'm sure it's going to be like the Betamax, but I was too young to even remember.
Currently Netflix has over 400+ HD DVD movies...
Currently Netflix has over 400+ HD DVD movies...
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Liquidate, no.
They will still cater to the HD-DVD owners until all stock is sold. Prices may drop some, but it won't be an all out clearance.
They will still cater to the HD-DVD owners until all stock is sold. Prices may drop some, but it won't be an all out clearance.
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
If HD DVD does go under and loose the format 'war'. Do you think they'll Liquidate all their player's movies, etc...? I'm sure it's going to be like the Betamax, but I was too young to even remember.
Currently Netflix has over 400+ HD DVD movies...
Currently Netflix has over 400+ HD DVD movies...
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Oh, mama!!!
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=846
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=846
Getting down to business, I asked about what kinds of plans THX had for HD media, specifically Blu-ray Disc. While there is one THX certified Blu-ray Disc (Lionsgate's Terminator 2: Judgment Day), getting the studios to pay the additional cost to have THX certify the process is a major stumbling block. It's not a matter of looking at the final master and approving it, all the steps in the process have to be inspected: be it the original film and sound elements, the telecine bay, the monitors used for the picture and sound, and the disc production facilities. T2 required Lionsgate to use two different film elements since either one had certain problems with different scenes, such as visual effects shots. Getting all these elements inspected and approved takes time and effort, and in the end that means money. Interestingly enough, they spoke of a couple BD titles seen by many as 5 star picture and sound transfers that could use tweaking if they had QC'ed them!
Another interesting tidbit of information is about the upcoming Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. As we all know, Paramount's deal does not cover Steven Spielberg films, and so Indy 4 is being prepped for Blu-ray Disc for release sometime late this year. Apparently, Paramount is reluctant to pony up the additional cost for the disc to be certified, so it may take George Lucas to personally step in and make it happen. Be sure to let Paramount know we want this!
Another interesting tidbit of information is about the upcoming Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. As we all know, Paramount's deal does not cover Steven Spielberg films, and so Indy 4 is being prepped for Blu-ray Disc for release sometime late this year. Apparently, Paramount is reluctant to pony up the additional cost for the disc to be certified, so it may take George Lucas to personally step in and make it happen. Be sure to let Paramount know we want this!
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Except George doesnt own THX anymore, so he might not even care.
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last ditch effort or just trying to dump remaining hardware before pulling the plug?
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/14...ftware-prices/
HD DVD fires back, slashes hardware & software prices
Leveraging its "approximately 50% market share in 2007" -- we're not sure where that number comes from either, we've contacted Toshiba for clarification -- indisputable lead in the notebook market and 100% compatibility with internet-enabled HDi features, Toshiba has announced it is not laying down yet. Effective yesterday, the HD-A3 MSRP has dropped to $149.99, the 1080p-capable HD-A30 to $199.99, and the top of the line HD-A35 to $299.99.
HD DVD fires back, slashes hardware & software prices
Leveraging its "approximately 50% market share in 2007" -- we're not sure where that number comes from either, we've contacted Toshiba for clarification -- indisputable lead in the notebook market and 100% compatibility with internet-enabled HDi features, Toshiba has announced it is not laying down yet. Effective yesterday, the HD-A3 MSRP has dropped to $149.99, the 1080p-capable HD-A30 to $199.99, and the top of the line HD-A35 to $299.99.
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when you have to slash prices in order to "fire back", then you know you're seriously f'ed.
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I just pruchased an HD DVD add on player for my xbox 360. w/20 HD movies for $275, shipped! :grin:
Movie list:
1.) Transformers
2.) Sleepy Hollow
3.) Batman Begins
4.) The Bourne Identity
5) The Bourne Supremacy
6.) The Bourne Ultimatum
7.) Superman Returns
8.) Aeon Flux
9.) Troy
10.) King Kong
11) Fast & Furious Tokyo drift
12.) Dawn of the dead
13.) Babel
14.) 300
15.) Firewall
16.) Swordfish
17.) Pitch Black
18.) Casino
19.) Nacho Libre
20.) U-571
In the end I'm happy I get to enjoy these HD movies at a low price. I'll continue to rent a few movies through netflix.
and when the time comes (if) I'll buy a blu-ray player down the line, hopefully at a much lower price.
Movie list:
1.) Transformers
2.) Sleepy Hollow
3.) Batman Begins
4.) The Bourne Identity
5) The Bourne Supremacy
6.) The Bourne Ultimatum
7.) Superman Returns
8.) Aeon Flux
9.) Troy
10.) King Kong
11) Fast & Furious Tokyo drift
12.) Dawn of the dead
13.) Babel
14.) 300
15.) Firewall
16.) Swordfish
17.) Pitch Black
18.) Casino
19.) Nacho Libre
20.) U-571
In the end I'm happy I get to enjoy these HD movies at a low price. I'll continue to rent a few movies through netflix.
and when the time comes (if) I'll buy a blu-ray player down the line, hopefully at a much lower price.
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^^ that's awesome dude.
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^yeah, man!
I also had a credit on my paypal account of about $22, so I really didn't pay much out of pocket.
you'll see a lot of desperate 'ebayers' trying to get rid of their stuff.
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I also had a credit on my paypal account of about $22, so I really didn't pay much out of pocket.
you'll see a lot of desperate 'ebayers' trying to get rid of their stuff.
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didn't see mention of this here... pretty significant for BR.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...rt_report.html
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...rt_report.html
Thursday, January 3, 2008
Apple set to ship Macs with Blu-ray support
By Slash Lane
Published: 10:00 AM EST
Apple Inc. at this month's Macworld Expo will will outline a high-definition video strategy that will see its weight thrown further behind Sony Corp's Blu-ray DVD format as opposed to Toshiba's HD-DVD, according to one Wall Street analyst.
In a report issued to clients early Thursday morning, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu cited sources who say the Cupertino-based Mac maker, which already occupies a seat on the Blu-ray consortium, is set to begin shipping some of its computers with support for the next-generation DVD format.
"We believe this is a key announcement as current Macs ship with the DVD format and Sony gains a strong ally in Blu-ray," the analyst told clients. He added that Disney, for which Apple chief executive Steve Jobs is a Director, is a firm supporter of Blu-ray, while rival Microsoft Corp. has placed most of its eggs in the HD-DVD basket.
However, Wu hedged his bets somewhat, saying there is "a smaller chance Apple may use a combo Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive to ensure full compatibility and not get involved in the format wars."
Apple, which markets a complete line of HD content creation tools for consumers and professionals, announced in March of 2005 that it had joined Blu-ray Disc Association. Since then, however, the company has observed much of the ongoing battle between Blu-ray and HD-DVD from the sidelines, choosing to remain indifferent in the fight for control of the next-generation high def format.
The Mac maker during the first quarter of 2008 is expected to introduce a significant overhaul to its Mac Pro professional workstations, which are expected to be among the first systems from the company to include drives capable of supporting the Blu-ray format, sources close to AppleInsider and other Apple news publications have said.
Meanwhile, in his report to clients Thursday, Wu also cited sources who indicate that an Apple sub-notebook and iTunes rentals will also take center stage at the upcoming Macworld Expo in San Francisco, set to kick-off with a keynote by Jobs on January 15th.
"We believe Apple will re-enter the sub-notebook market, but this time use NAND flash as primary storage to improve battery life, reliability, and reduce weight," he wrote. "Our sources indicate that the possible names of this new product include 'MacBook mini' or 'MacBook slim'."
On the iTunes front, the analyst said his sources also indicate that Apple will look to aggressively grow this business with digital movie rentals.
"Whether these movies expire based on time and/or usage is unclear to us, but we do believe that rentals are a significant change in its philosophy with its current iTunes download business model," he wrote. "The positive implication from this is that Apple enhances its video experience and makes it more compelling to move and/or stick with the iTunes + iPod + Mac + iPhone + Apple TV ecosystem."
Additionally, Wu said he's also picking up hints of potential smaller announcements related to speed bumps to current Macs and the iPhone, including "an external HDD storage/dock/streaming device that can work with MacBook mini as well as Airport Extreme."
Further down the line, the Wall Street analyst expects that Apple will address two major shortcomings of its Apple TV set-top-box product, mainly that it does not allow for a direct internet connection to access movie and web content, and that it also lacks a "TV tuner."
"Our sources indicate that Apple is working on fixing these weaknesses to make Apple TV a much stronger product," he advised clients. "We are unsure of the timing of these enhancements but believe we will likely see these later in 2008 or perhaps 2009."
The analyst maintained his Buy rating on Apple stock with a price target of $210 per share.
Apple set to ship Macs with Blu-ray support
By Slash Lane
Published: 10:00 AM EST
Apple Inc. at this month's Macworld Expo will will outline a high-definition video strategy that will see its weight thrown further behind Sony Corp's Blu-ray DVD format as opposed to Toshiba's HD-DVD, according to one Wall Street analyst.
In a report issued to clients early Thursday morning, American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu cited sources who say the Cupertino-based Mac maker, which already occupies a seat on the Blu-ray consortium, is set to begin shipping some of its computers with support for the next-generation DVD format.
"We believe this is a key announcement as current Macs ship with the DVD format and Sony gains a strong ally in Blu-ray," the analyst told clients. He added that Disney, for which Apple chief executive Steve Jobs is a Director, is a firm supporter of Blu-ray, while rival Microsoft Corp. has placed most of its eggs in the HD-DVD basket.
However, Wu hedged his bets somewhat, saying there is "a smaller chance Apple may use a combo Blu-ray/HD-DVD drive to ensure full compatibility and not get involved in the format wars."
Apple, which markets a complete line of HD content creation tools for consumers and professionals, announced in March of 2005 that it had joined Blu-ray Disc Association. Since then, however, the company has observed much of the ongoing battle between Blu-ray and HD-DVD from the sidelines, choosing to remain indifferent in the fight for control of the next-generation high def format.
The Mac maker during the first quarter of 2008 is expected to introduce a significant overhaul to its Mac Pro professional workstations, which are expected to be among the first systems from the company to include drives capable of supporting the Blu-ray format, sources close to AppleInsider and other Apple news publications have said.
Meanwhile, in his report to clients Thursday, Wu also cited sources who indicate that an Apple sub-notebook and iTunes rentals will also take center stage at the upcoming Macworld Expo in San Francisco, set to kick-off with a keynote by Jobs on January 15th.
"We believe Apple will re-enter the sub-notebook market, but this time use NAND flash as primary storage to improve battery life, reliability, and reduce weight," he wrote. "Our sources indicate that the possible names of this new product include 'MacBook mini' or 'MacBook slim'."
On the iTunes front, the analyst said his sources also indicate that Apple will look to aggressively grow this business with digital movie rentals.
"Whether these movies expire based on time and/or usage is unclear to us, but we do believe that rentals are a significant change in its philosophy with its current iTunes download business model," he wrote. "The positive implication from this is that Apple enhances its video experience and makes it more compelling to move and/or stick with the iTunes + iPod + Mac + iPhone + Apple TV ecosystem."
Additionally, Wu said he's also picking up hints of potential smaller announcements related to speed bumps to current Macs and the iPhone, including "an external HDD storage/dock/streaming device that can work with MacBook mini as well as Airport Extreme."
Further down the line, the Wall Street analyst expects that Apple will address two major shortcomings of its Apple TV set-top-box product, mainly that it does not allow for a direct internet connection to access movie and web content, and that it also lacks a "TV tuner."
"Our sources indicate that Apple is working on fixing these weaknesses to make Apple TV a much stronger product," he advised clients. "We are unsure of the timing of these enhancements but believe we will likely see these later in 2008 or perhaps 2009."
The analyst maintained his Buy rating on Apple stock with a price target of $210 per share.
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We'll all find out tomorrow...
#276
Big White Chocolate
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Amazon is giving away a free hi-def player and 100 movies each day for the next 30 days.
Blu-ray: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.ht...&creative=9325
HD DVD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.ht...&creative=9325
Blu-ray: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.ht...&creative=9325
HD DVD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.ht...&creative=9325
#277
Moderator Alumnus
http://www.betanews.com/article/Blur...nto/1199841379
Man, I thought Blu-ray was finalized.
That's such crap that Blu-ray won and the damn specification isn't even finalized yet.
So now possibly NO players you can buy today will be able to play new movies a year from
now. blech.
Man, I thought Blu-ray was finalized.
That's such crap that Blu-ray won and the damn specification isn't even finalized yet.
So now possibly NO players you can buy today will be able to play new movies a year from
now. blech.
#279
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
http://www.betanews.com/article/Blur...nto/1199841379
Man, I thought Blu-ray was finalized.
That's such crap that Blu-ray won and the damn specification isn't even finalized yet.
So now possibly NO players you can buy today will be able to play new movies a year from
now. blech.
Man, I thought Blu-ray was finalized.
That's such crap that Blu-ray won and the damn specification isn't even finalized yet.
So now possibly NO players you can buy today will be able to play new movies a year from
now. blech.
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Big White Chocolate
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Also, the notion that new discs won't play in old players is a little misleading. While the interactive features won't be available, the movie itself may be playable on older Profile 1.0 players. There's no conclusive answer to that. I believe that the upcoming Saw IV is the first Profile 2.0 movie. And since there are no 2.0 players out, I don't think the movie would come out and not be playable on current 1.0 and 1.1 players.
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