Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD?
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
what do you mean by that, are you saying you wrote the article?
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
as billiam stated bluray is not just Sony. From day one bluray has panasonic,pioneer, panasonic,samsung, and others. Sony is just at front.
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Fret not, Xbox owners...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080108/...rTrpH.ypcE1vAI
Microsoft's Xbox could consider Blu-ray support
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Xbox video gaming unit still fully backs Toshiba Corp's (6502.T) HD-DVD high-definition DVD format but could consider supporting Sony Corp's (6758.T) rival Blu-ray technology should consumers want it, an executive said on Tuesday.
"It should be consumer choice; and if that's the way they vote, that's something we'll have to consider," Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox hardware said when asked whether Microsoft would support a Blu-ray DVD accessory in the event that HD-DVD failed.
Microsoft does not believe the surprise decision last week by Time Warner Inc (TWX.N) unit Warner Bros, the top seller of home movies, to abandon HD-DVD format in favor of Blu-ray should affect sales of its Xbox 360 video game console, Penello said.
"I fundamentally don't think ... this has a significant impact on Xbox 360 versus (Sony's) PlayStation 3," Penello told Reuters in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
"With the PlayStation 2, DVD was a big part in the beginning, but over time, people were not buying it as a DVD player after first year or two," Penello said.
The Xbox 360 supports a plug-in HD-DVD accessory that is bought separately, while Sony, hoping to give its next-generation video format a leg up, built a Blu-ray player into its PlayStation 3 machine.
"You can't say it's not a bummer, not a setback, but I've seen this battle declared over so many times," Penello said of Warner's decision.
"I want consumers to have a voice in this and I think there are a lot of consumers who bought HD-DVD who are going to have a say in how this shakes out."
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp's (MSFT.O) Xbox video gaming unit still fully backs Toshiba Corp's (6502.T) HD-DVD high-definition DVD format but could consider supporting Sony Corp's (6758.T) rival Blu-ray technology should consumers want it, an executive said on Tuesday.
"It should be consumer choice; and if that's the way they vote, that's something we'll have to consider," Albert Penello, group marketing manager for Xbox hardware said when asked whether Microsoft would support a Blu-ray DVD accessory in the event that HD-DVD failed.
Microsoft does not believe the surprise decision last week by Time Warner Inc (TWX.N) unit Warner Bros, the top seller of home movies, to abandon HD-DVD format in favor of Blu-ray should affect sales of its Xbox 360 video game console, Penello said.
"I fundamentally don't think ... this has a significant impact on Xbox 360 versus (Sony's) PlayStation 3," Penello told Reuters in an interview at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
"With the PlayStation 2, DVD was a big part in the beginning, but over time, people were not buying it as a DVD player after first year or two," Penello said.
The Xbox 360 supports a plug-in HD-DVD accessory that is bought separately, while Sony, hoping to give its next-generation video format a leg up, built a Blu-ray player into its PlayStation 3 machine.
"You can't say it's not a bummer, not a setback, but I've seen this battle declared over so many times," Penello said of Warner's decision.
"I want consumers to have a voice in this and I think there are a lot of consumers who bought HD-DVD who are going to have a say in how this shakes out."
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
as billiam stated bluray is not just Sony. From day one bluray has panasonic,pioneer, panasonic,samsung, and others. Sony is just at front.
Michael Bay is a big 
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...read.php?t=842
His idiotic post, clearly shows how ungreatfull he is for the people who bought his movie in HD DVD, he's basically slandering a format that brought him revenue.
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...read.php?t=842
His idiotic post, clearly shows how ungreatfull he is for the people who bought his movie in HD DVD, he's basically slandering a format that brought him revenue.
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Originally Posted by JLatimer
It isnt all about Sony hardware, it is about sony royalties, licensing, IP, whatever. Sony owns BluRay technology as an intellectual property Sony has made it clear that they do not want to discount their IP. It doesnt matter that you buy a Samsung BluRay - it puts money in Sony pockets because Samsung has to pay Sony...
you think things are any different w/ toshiba ont he other side?
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Originally Posted by fdl
He's said all along that he prefers the way his movie looks in blu-ray, and wants it in blu-ray. So no surprises.
yeap, he's been a big fan for a long time. Even when his movies were getting released on HD he still pushed Bluray
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Originally Posted by JLatimer
It isnt all about Sony hardware, it is about sony royalties, licensing, IP, whatever. Sony owns BluRay technology as an intellectual property Sony has made it clear that they do not want to discount their IP. It doesnt matter that you buy a Samsung BluRay - it puts money in Sony pockets because Samsung has to pay Sony...
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
Which is kind of ironic when you consider HD DVD players are all Toshibas or rebranded Toshibas, and Sony lost the VHS-Betamax war because they wanted too much in licensing fees to manufacture Betamax players.
Sony lost BETAMAX to VHS because of the Porn industry went with the cheaper to produce VHS. Even though various forms of BETA survived for nearly 3 decades at a professional broadcast format.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Sony lost BETAMAX to VHS because of the Porn industry went with the cheaper to produce VHS. Even though various forms of BETA survived for nearly 3 decades at a professional broadcast format.
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Fears of a deteriorating U.S. economy and falling DVD industry sales helped drive Warner Bros.'s decision to back Sony's Blu-ray next generation DVD format exclusively, a top executive told Reuters on Monday.
Hollywood's biggest seller of home movies tipped the balance of power on Friday in favor of Sony in a fight for the next generation of DVDs between the electronics giant and Toshiba Corp., developers of the HD DVD format.
"We've typically been recession proof," Warner Bros. Entertainment Group President Kevin Tsujihara said in an interview at the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
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"But the thing that we saw in the fourth quarter ... was gas prices beginning to affect sales. And since we're considered an impulse purchase, it's beginning to impact us," he said.
Tsujihara said the company needed to quickly erase consumer and retailer confusion over dueling DVD formats before economic conditions deteriorated.
Toshiba vowed the format war was not over, but Warner's move was seen as a major setback, at least, in the race to develop a potentially multibillion-dollar market for high-definition discs.
Warner executives said the consortium of companies backing Blu-ray, including five of the seven big Hollywood Studios, could spend more than $50 million in 2008 to convince consumers to upgrade, or more than the amount spent by the backers of both HD DVD and Blu-ray in the 2007 holiday season. Budgets have not been finalized, Warner Bros. said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22545995/
Fears of a deteriorating U.S. economy and falling DVD industry sales helped drive Warner Bros.'s decision to back Sony's Blu-ray next generation DVD format exclusively, a top executive told Reuters on Monday.
Hollywood's biggest seller of home movies tipped the balance of power on Friday in favor of Sony in a fight for the next generation of DVDs between the electronics giant and Toshiba Corp., developers of the HD DVD format.
"We've typically been recession proof," Warner Bros. Entertainment Group President Kevin Tsujihara said in an interview at the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.
Story continues below ↓advertisement
"But the thing that we saw in the fourth quarter ... was gas prices beginning to affect sales. And since we're considered an impulse purchase, it's beginning to impact us," he said.
Tsujihara said the company needed to quickly erase consumer and retailer confusion over dueling DVD formats before economic conditions deteriorated.
Toshiba vowed the format war was not over, but Warner's move was seen as a major setback, at least, in the race to develop a potentially multibillion-dollar market for high-definition discs.
Warner executives said the consortium of companies backing Blu-ray, including five of the seven big Hollywood Studios, could spend more than $50 million in 2008 to convince consumers to upgrade, or more than the amount spent by the backers of both HD DVD and Blu-ray in the 2007 holiday season. Budgets have not been finalized, Warner Bros. said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22545995/
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LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - The high-definition DVD format war has not been won, at least not in the minds of the retailers. Last week, Time Warner Inc's (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Warner Bros studio said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Blu-ray format instead of Toshiba Corp's (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) competing HD DVD technology.
While the announcement was seen as tipping the balance of power in favor of the Blu-ray format, retailers at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week did not see the announcement as a definitive sign of a clear winner.
"I don't think we're in a position to go out and declare a winner," said Steve Eastman, Target Corp's (TGT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) vice president of consumer electronics, in an interview.
As long as there are two standards competing in public, consumers will stay away, he added.
"Until it settles completely I think we're going to continue to see consumers sitting on the sidelines," Eastman said.
That is bad news for the development of a much-needed multibillion dollar industry. U.S. sales of DVDs, which are crucial to Hollywood studio profits, fell 4.8 percent to $15.7 billion in 2007, the first significant drop since the format was introduced, according to preliminary Adams Media calculations.
"It would be our hope that by this Christmas there would be a clearer choice for the customer, instead of battling back and forth" between the formats, said Gary Severson, senior vice president in charge of electronics for Wal-Mart Stores Inc's (WMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) U.S. stores.
"I don't know if that's going to happen or not."
THE BATTLE CONTINUES
HD DVD was developed by Toshiba while Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) developed the Blu-ray standard.
The new high-definition DVDs, with better picture quality and more capacity, were expected to help revive the slowing $24 billion global home DVD market.
But Hollywood studios split their alliances between the two standards. After the switch by Warner, studios behind some three-quarters of DVDs are backing Blu-ray. Some release in both formats, with a minority focused on HD DVD.
Similar to the Betamax-VHS battle in the 1980s, having two competing DVD standards has created customer confusion, dampened sales of both formats and put retailers in a conundrum of having to either choose sides or sell products that have a chance of becoming obsolete very quickly.
This holiday season, shelves at many consumer electronics retailers were stuffed with Blu-ray DVDs, HD DVDs, and players the supported one or both formats.
Amid the plethora of products, some retailers chose to make a decision and support a single format.
Target decided to sell only Blu-ray disc players in its stores, although it offered both formats on its Web site.
"We felt, initially because of the confusion, we had to pick one," Eastman said.
CLOSER TO A CONCLUSION?
Circuit City Stores Inc (CC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Best Buy Co Inc (BBY.N: Quote, Profile, Research) indicated no plans to change sales strategy after the Warner Bros announcement, although they said it was a signal that the industry was closer to backing one unified standard.
"We are very excited to see progress of any type, and we see this as significant progress," said Circuit City Chief Executive Officer Phil Schoonover at CES.
Best Buy CEO Brad Anderson also said at the conference that the decision makes it "a lot easier to see the likelihood that we get to one format, and it makes it easier for us as retailers to help push it to that one format."
Even if a winner emerges, Hollywood executives and retailers at CES say consumers still need to be convinced high definition is worth buying.
"If we were able to have one united message and say: 'Here's high definition TV, here's a high definition DVD, here's the medium to play on it,' it's a much cleaner story to customers that the industry can push, that every retailer can push and the customer goes, 'OK I get it,'" Wal-Mart's Severson said.
"Right now they're basically being taught to wait and see what happens," he said.
But one retailer is not concerned with whether the wars end this year or next year, or ever.
"We don't have to choose," said Paul Ryder, vice president of the electronics store for online retailer Amazon.com (AMZN.O: Quote, Profile, Research), which tries to offer as wide a selection of electronics products as it possibly can since it has no physical stores.
"I don't have to say I don't have enough room on my shelf."
(Additional reporting by Franklin Paul in Las Vegas, editing by Richard Chang)
While the announcement was seen as tipping the balance of power in favor of the Blu-ray format, retailers at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week did not see the announcement as a definitive sign of a clear winner.
"I don't think we're in a position to go out and declare a winner," said Steve Eastman, Target Corp's (TGT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) vice president of consumer electronics, in an interview.
As long as there are two standards competing in public, consumers will stay away, he added.
"Until it settles completely I think we're going to continue to see consumers sitting on the sidelines," Eastman said.
That is bad news for the development of a much-needed multibillion dollar industry. U.S. sales of DVDs, which are crucial to Hollywood studio profits, fell 4.8 percent to $15.7 billion in 2007, the first significant drop since the format was introduced, according to preliminary Adams Media calculations.
"It would be our hope that by this Christmas there would be a clearer choice for the customer, instead of battling back and forth" between the formats, said Gary Severson, senior vice president in charge of electronics for Wal-Mart Stores Inc's (WMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) U.S. stores.
"I don't know if that's going to happen or not."
THE BATTLE CONTINUES
HD DVD was developed by Toshiba while Sony Corp (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) developed the Blu-ray standard.
The new high-definition DVDs, with better picture quality and more capacity, were expected to help revive the slowing $24 billion global home DVD market.
But Hollywood studios split their alliances between the two standards. After the switch by Warner, studios behind some three-quarters of DVDs are backing Blu-ray. Some release in both formats, with a minority focused on HD DVD.
Similar to the Betamax-VHS battle in the 1980s, having two competing DVD standards has created customer confusion, dampened sales of both formats and put retailers in a conundrum of having to either choose sides or sell products that have a chance of becoming obsolete very quickly.
This holiday season, shelves at many consumer electronics retailers were stuffed with Blu-ray DVDs, HD DVDs, and players the supported one or both formats.
Amid the plethora of products, some retailers chose to make a decision and support a single format.
Target decided to sell only Blu-ray disc players in its stores, although it offered both formats on its Web site.
"We felt, initially because of the confusion, we had to pick one," Eastman said.
CLOSER TO A CONCLUSION?
Circuit City Stores Inc (CC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Best Buy Co Inc (BBY.N: Quote, Profile, Research) indicated no plans to change sales strategy after the Warner Bros announcement, although they said it was a signal that the industry was closer to backing one unified standard.
"We are very excited to see progress of any type, and we see this as significant progress," said Circuit City Chief Executive Officer Phil Schoonover at CES.
Best Buy CEO Brad Anderson also said at the conference that the decision makes it "a lot easier to see the likelihood that we get to one format, and it makes it easier for us as retailers to help push it to that one format."
Even if a winner emerges, Hollywood executives and retailers at CES say consumers still need to be convinced high definition is worth buying.
"If we were able to have one united message and say: 'Here's high definition TV, here's a high definition DVD, here's the medium to play on it,' it's a much cleaner story to customers that the industry can push, that every retailer can push and the customer goes, 'OK I get it,'" Wal-Mart's Severson said.
"Right now they're basically being taught to wait and see what happens," he said.
But one retailer is not concerned with whether the wars end this year or next year, or ever.
"We don't have to choose," said Paul Ryder, vice president of the electronics store for online retailer Amazon.com (AMZN.O: Quote, Profile, Research), which tries to offer as wide a selection of electronics products as it possibly can since it has no physical stores.
"I don't have to say I don't have enough room on my shelf."
(Additional reporting by Franklin Paul in Las Vegas, editing by Richard Chang)
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Amazon has a couple good Bluray titles on sale for 19.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...rd_i=193640011
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...rd_i=193640011
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I always see buy one get one frees on deepdiscount.com for BD's. The hardware is pricey. I'll hold off and get a PS3 in a couple of years.
I almost bought an HD-DVD player around Black Friday since they were selling entry level players with 10 movies for around $150. Good thing I held out.
I almost bought an HD-DVD player around Black Friday since they were selling entry level players with 10 movies for around $150. Good thing I held out.
Originally Posted by Doom878
I almost bought an HD-DVD player around Black Friday since they were selling entry level players with 10 movies for around $150. Good thing I held out.
So if you buy the player and the movies you like on HD DVD you have them... forever. If HD DVD loses the format war, your player still plays the HD DVDs you own. The player won't stop working if HD DVD loses the format wars. Sure, down the road you will need to buy a Blu-Ray player if you want the new movies in HD format... but so what? It's not like you'll need to repurchase the movies you own on HD DVD in Blu-Ray format b/c you'll already have them and the medium on which to play them...
I say if you want to buy a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, just buy it. Get the movies you want which player on your player and just enjoy it b/c they'll always work on your machine regardless of which format wins down the road...
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Universal HD DVD exclusivity contract has expired, sits non-renewed
Universal HD DVD exclusivity contract has expired, sits non-renewed
" More news from the format war today, and it isn't good for the red camp. Daily Variety has confirmed that Universal's agreement to stick with HD DVD has ended and has not been renewed. Additionally, Paramount has an escape clause in its contract that can be exercised following Warner's departure from the (now dwindling) HD DVD ranks. The article highlights various ongoing commitments both companies have to the format, but we've heard these kind of promises before from studios. It's feeling like a party where everyone leaves at once; nobody wants to be the first out the door, but everyone's looking in that direction."
from Engadget 1/10/08 http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/10/u...sits-non-rene/
" More news from the format war today, and it isn't good for the red camp. Daily Variety has confirmed that Universal's agreement to stick with HD DVD has ended and has not been renewed. Additionally, Paramount has an escape clause in its contract that can be exercised following Warner's departure from the (now dwindling) HD DVD ranks. The article highlights various ongoing commitments both companies have to the format, but we've heard these kind of promises before from studios. It's feeling like a party where everyone leaves at once; nobody wants to be the first out the door, but everyone's looking in that direction."
from Engadget 1/10/08 http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/10/u...sits-non-rene/
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small excerpt from a Gates interview:
Like I said. MS doesn't care about the format war overall. They just want to be in the forefront for downloads.
It even goes on to say "HD-DVD isnt critical for the success of the xbox" and MS would consider making a bluray add on if they win the war.
"Q: Warner's announcement backing Blu-ray high-definition DVDs suggests the death of the HD DVD format, which Microsoft has supported. What's your reaction?
A: There has been a lot of back and forth. The announcement before that was Paramount putting exclusive support behind HD DVD. HD DVD did well over the holidays. The other trend we're seeing is that direct download over broadband — I think the greatest example of that is XBox Live — (is) becoming an important choice. Over time, that will be the dominant way that people get their movies."
A: There has been a lot of back and forth. The announcement before that was Paramount putting exclusive support behind HD DVD. HD DVD did well over the holidays. The other trend we're seeing is that direct download over broadband — I think the greatest example of that is XBox Live — (is) becoming an important choice. Over time, that will be the dominant way that people get their movies."
It even goes on to say "HD-DVD isnt critical for the success of the xbox" and MS would consider making a bluray add on if they win the war.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
small excerpt from a Gates interview:
Like I said. MS doesn't care about the format war overall. They just want to be in the forefront for downloads.
It even goes on to say "HD-DVD isnt critical for the success of the xbox" and MS would consider making a bluray add on if they win the war.
Like I said. MS doesn't care about the format war overall. They just want to be in the forefront for downloads.
It even goes on to say "HD-DVD isnt critical for the success of the xbox" and MS would consider making a bluray add on if they win the war.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
i dunno imo, i dont think the internet is fast & reliable enough for direct downloads.
how long does it take to DL a 720p movie from xbox live?
how long does it take to DL a 720p movie from xbox live?
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Originally Posted by NetEditor
While I think downloads are the future, and I don't think it's in the immediate future. I think people who say that HD discs, either Blu-ray or HD DVD, will fail because of downloads are overestimating the potential for downloads in the next few years. I mean, look how long it's taking music downloads to kill CD sales, and that's fueled in part of people willing to listen to music on crappy iPod earphones.
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I have strong doubts that Microsoft or any other company is going to invest in the infrastructure required for an HD download service until the issue of net neutrality gets hammered out. That is, of course, unless one of the companies doing the investing also happens to be a connectivity provider.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Its because there is a still a desire for physical media. We are human and we have lived win a world of tangible objects since the dawn of time.
Originally Posted by juniorbean
I never fully understand this statement when people make it. Why is it a good thing you held out? You could have bought a player with 10 movies for a killer price. On top of that you still have a library of HD DVD movies which you can buy. And you could have it now.
So if you buy the player and the movies you like on HD DVD you have them... forever. If HD DVD loses the format war, your player still plays the HD DVDs you own. The player won't stop working if HD DVD loses the format wars. Sure, down the road you will need to buy a Blu-Ray player if you want the new movies in HD format... but so what? It's not like you'll need to repurchase the movies you own on HD DVD in Blu-Ray format b/c you'll already have them and the medium on which to play them...
I say if you want to buy a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, just buy it. Get the movies you want which player on your player and just enjoy it b/c they'll always work on your machine regardless of which format wins down the road...
So if you buy the player and the movies you like on HD DVD you have them... forever. If HD DVD loses the format war, your player still plays the HD DVDs you own. The player won't stop working if HD DVD loses the format wars. Sure, down the road you will need to buy a Blu-Ray player if you want the new movies in HD format... but so what? It's not like you'll need to repurchase the movies you own on HD DVD in Blu-Ray format b/c you'll already have them and the medium on which to play them...
I say if you want to buy a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, just buy it. Get the movies you want which player on your player and just enjoy it b/c they'll always work on your machine regardless of which format wins down the road...
I'm with you on that one....
I almost feel tempted to buy this package.
http://cgi.ebay.com/XBOX-360-HD-DVD-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I never fully understand this statement when people make it. Why is it a good thing you held out? You could have bought a player with 10 movies for a killer price. On top of that you still have a library of HD DVD movies which you can buy. And you could have it now.
So if you buy the player and the movies you like on HD DVD you have them... forever. If HD DVD loses the format war, your player still plays the HD DVDs you own. The player won't stop working if HD DVD loses the format wars. Sure, down the road you will need to buy a Blu-Ray player if you want the new movies in HD format... but so what? It's not like you'll need to repurchase the movies you own on HD DVD in Blu-Ray format b/c you'll already have them and the medium on which to play them...
I say if you want to buy a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, just buy it. Get the movies you want which player on your player and just enjoy it b/c they'll always work on your machine regardless of which format wins down the road...
So if you buy the player and the movies you like on HD DVD you have them... forever. If HD DVD loses the format war, your player still plays the HD DVDs you own. The player won't stop working if HD DVD loses the format wars. Sure, down the road you will need to buy a Blu-Ray player if you want the new movies in HD format... but so what? It's not like you'll need to repurchase the movies you own on HD DVD in Blu-Ray format b/c you'll already have them and the medium on which to play them...
I say if you want to buy a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player, just buy it. Get the movies you want which player on your player and just enjoy it b/c they'll always work on your machine regardless of which format wins down the road...
Originally Posted by Doom878
Actually I didn't buy it because I was unemployed. But simply if in a few years, the player were to break (and these have had issues), what am I to do to watch them?
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
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Originally Posted by Billiam
I have strong doubts that Microsoft or any other company is going to invest in the infrastructure required for an HD download service until the issue of net neutrality gets hammered out. That is, of course, unless one of the companies doing the investing also happens to be a connectivity provider.
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
Anyone else wants to talk out of their ass?
Originally Posted by llJrockll
You still would've only paid $150 with 10 FREE movies.
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
Opposed to buying a Blu-ray player ($400), 10 Blu-ray moies @ $30 each ($300)
Total for a blu-ray sale = $900
Total for a HD DVD sale +$150
I think it's pretty obvious.
I still can't believe we're going to end up with the higher cost format for the consumer....
I mean to say $700