Vermont Castings Grills?
#41
Originally Posted by doopstr
By not being able to move, I meant that you will basically be cooking where the hose comes out of the ground. Unless you want to run a hose around your deck, yard.
I keep two tanks on hand for propane. The local gas company here will fill a tank for $5 which is damn cheap. And they completely fill it, not half ass like the gas stations do.
I keep two tanks on hand for propane. The local gas company here will fill a tank for $5 which is damn cheap. And they completely fill it, not half ass like the gas stations do.
#42
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Originally Posted by o3jeff
$5 is cheap, the garage down the street got me for $15 to fill a tank.
I pay about $12 (sometimes I have a coupon)...
I keep a spare tank on hand too, so I'd never run out...
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Wow, I gotta go to HD to see if they have any of last year's models available. We're looking for another grill (smaller grill) for down by the pool. If I can get a steal on a Stainless Vermont Casting, that would be sweet!
#45
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Originally Posted by doopstr
By not being able to move, I meant that you will basically be cooking where the hose comes out of the ground.
Unless you want to run a hose around your deck, yard.
#47
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Originally Posted by fdl
DOesnt Porcelain have some advantages over stainless? I remember reading that somewhere.
#48
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I don't know. Everything I've read always stated to go with Stainless over porcelain. That's not to say that porcelain doesn't do some things better, but in general, the recommendation from magazines, shops, BBQ gurus, and so on, has always been to get stainless....
#49
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Well what I read was that the porcelain covered cast iron grates will get hotter and hold their heat better. The downside is maintenance and rusting which can be a problem over time (the porcelain can chip off and rusting can occur). Stainless steel is great for maintenance.
#51
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Originally Posted by fdl
Well what I read was that the porcelain covered cast iron grates will get hotter and hold their heat better. The downside is maintenance and rusting which can be a problem over time (the porcelain can chip off and rusting can occur). Stainless steel is great for maintenance.
Cast iron (like cast iron pans) have to be seasoned, and if they rust, have to be cleaned and re-seasoned...
The porcelain is to reduce the chance of rust... that's it. Porcelain doesn't help in reataining heat...
I had the cast iron vs. stainless debate going on when I was looking to buy a grille. I ended up with the SS... Probably comes down to personal choice...
#52
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
It's not the porcelain, it's the cast iron that holds heat better... Just like the cast iron pans grandma used to use (and if you're wise, you'll use for cooking certian things).
Cast iron (like cast iron pans) have to be seasoned, and if they rust, have to be cleaned and re-seasoned...
The porcelain is to reduce the chance of rust... that's it. Porcelain doesn't help in reataining heat...
Cast iron (like cast iron pans) have to be seasoned, and if they rust, have to be cleaned and re-seasoned...
The porcelain is to reduce the chance of rust... that's it. Porcelain doesn't help in reataining heat...
I had the cast iron vs. stainless debate going on when I was looking to buy a grille. I ended up with the SS... Probably comes down to personal choice...
In the end, I think a quality unit is a quality unit.
#53
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Yep, and the VC grilles are high quality...
I wouldn't let the lack of a SS grilling surface stop me from buying one... The only reason I didn't get a VC was that I don't like the look of a SS cabinet, and have always wanted a weber...
I wouldn't let the lack of a SS grilling surface stop me from buying one... The only reason I didn't get a VC was that I don't like the look of a SS cabinet, and have always wanted a weber...
#55
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Add me to the list of Vermont Castings owners.
I ended up with a VM400XBP (liquid propane) from Home Depot.
I tried to buy a grill from a local dealer but failed. They only had one model of Vermont Castings and wanted over $1000 for it. I also tried to buy a VCS3006 from an online retailer. They missed the promised ship date so I canceled that.
So I went to HD and bought the above mentioned grill. It has everything I need in a grill. I assembled it in about an hour and cooked up a couple of filet mignons, burgers and bratwursts.
This can fall under the "How has AZ changed your life?" thread. I would have probably ended up with a Weber because of not knowing who VC was. Not saying Weber is bad.
I ended up with a VM400XBP (liquid propane) from Home Depot.
I tried to buy a grill from a local dealer but failed. They only had one model of Vermont Castings and wanted over $1000 for it. I also tried to buy a VCS3006 from an online retailer. They missed the promised ship date so I canceled that.
So I went to HD and bought the above mentioned grill. It has everything I need in a grill. I assembled it in about an hour and cooked up a couple of filet mignons, burgers and bratwursts.
This can fall under the "How has AZ changed your life?" thread. I would have probably ended up with a Weber because of not knowing who VC was. Not saying Weber is bad.
#63
[QUOTE=doopstr]Add me to the list of Vermont Castings owners.
I ended up with a VM400XBP (liquid propane) from Home Depot.
I tried to buy a grill from a local dealer but failed. They only had one model of Vermont Castings and wanted over $1000 for it. I also tried to buy a VCS3006 from an online retailer. They missed the promised ship date so I canceled that.
So I went to HD and bought the above mentioned grill. It has everything I need in a grill. I assembled it in about an hour and cooked up a couple of filet mignons, burgers and bratwursts.
This can fall under the "How has AZ changed your life?" thread. I would have probably ended up with a Weber because of not knowing who VC was. Not saying Weber is bad.[QUOTE=doopstr]
How much was it?
I ended up with a VM400XBP (liquid propane) from Home Depot.
I tried to buy a grill from a local dealer but failed. They only had one model of Vermont Castings and wanted over $1000 for it. I also tried to buy a VCS3006 from an online retailer. They missed the promised ship date so I canceled that.
So I went to HD and bought the above mentioned grill. It has everything I need in a grill. I assembled it in about an hour and cooked up a couple of filet mignons, burgers and bratwursts.
This can fall under the "How has AZ changed your life?" thread. I would have probably ended up with a Weber because of not knowing who VC was. Not saying Weber is bad.[QUOTE=doopstr]
How much was it?
#65
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Originally Posted by o3jeff
VM400XBP is $398
They owe me $75 in cards this month Not a bad deal considering the season is just getting underway.
I just checked, my $2 plan may not be valid.
Last edited by doopstr; 05-15-2006 at 08:02 PM.
#66
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while were back on the subject...
i never ended up buying the grill. instead i got an indoor gas grill built into my cooktop. i no longer have a need for an outdoor gas grill (i dont do a large amount of outdoor entertaining anyway)... but I'd like to get a charcoal grill...
recommendations?
i never ended up buying the grill. instead i got an indoor gas grill built into my cooktop. i no longer have a need for an outdoor gas grill (i dont do a large amount of outdoor entertaining anyway)... but I'd like to get a charcoal grill...
recommendations?
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Originally Posted by soopa
why? whats best about them?
Because people say so
Excellent cooking abilities
Easy ash removal and cleaning
Vesatile grilling
The Weber Kettle grill is one of the most versatile pieces of outdoor cooking equipment ever invented. This 22 1/2 inch diameter charcoal grill gives you plenty of space to indirectly grill a turkey and even more space to sear steaks. But more, you can smoke on this grill because of the great vent design which gives you a level of heat control many gas grills don't have. Of course charcoal is more of an art than a science so this is the kind of grill that not only lets you experiment it literally forces you. I know people who have been experimenting with their Weber Kettle for decades. This grill will last that long if you take care of it.
The Weber Silver comes with a great ash catcher system that makes clean up easy. The second you take the last burger off this grill close down the vents and let the lack of oxygen kill the fire. This will stop the remaining coals from burning any further. Once the grill is cool give it a shake and pull off the ash catcher and you're ready to go again. The coals left behind can be relit for the next cookout.
Plain and simple, these grills last for decades, grill great and give you as much versatility as you'll ever need. There's even an optional rotisserie kit for this grill.
#70
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I really have no idea if or why their the best (It was a gift) but I can tell you I have a far easier time cooking with my Weber than I do any gas grill. Temperature and flare ups are IMO far easier to control with the Charcoal and its very, very easy to clean. And so far, after 4 season's of use, its still in great shape.
#71
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How long does it take to get a charcoal grill going from the time you light the match? I seem to remember that you need to wait for the coals to turn grey. How long does that take?
#72
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Originally Posted by doopstr
How long does it take to get a charcoal grill going from the time you light the match? I seem to remember that you need to wait for the coals to turn grey. How long does that take?
The only time I'm really inconvienienced by this is week nights. Coming home hungry and having to wait for the charcoal can be in a PITA at times but its worth it.
#75
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I'll probably pick up that Weber. At least it's not all "plasticky" like their over-priced gas grills.
I dig the diamond plate, that's not custom is it?
I dig the diamond plate, that's not custom is it?
#76
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Originally Posted by soopa
I dig the diamond plate, that's not custom is it?
#78
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Originally Posted by soopa
awwww shit. Weber be damned... they are all plasticky!!!
Soopa, do you really hate webers as much as you sound like you do ??
#79
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I just don't understand the concept of paying sooo much for a brand that cheaps out on soo many areas.
Their gas grills are really flimsy. Lots of plastic, lots of cheap details. Whereas someone like vermont castings uses heavy gauge stainless throughout.
With weber you are really and trully paying for undeserved brand recognition.
Again, I'm speaking about gas grilles.
Their gas grills are really flimsy. Lots of plastic, lots of cheap details. Whereas someone like vermont castings uses heavy gauge stainless throughout.
With weber you are really and trully paying for undeserved brand recognition.
Again, I'm speaking about gas grilles.
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Originally Posted by soopa
I just don't understand the concept of paying sooo much for a brand that cheaps out on soo many areas.
Their gas grills are really flimsy. Lots of plastic, lots of cheap details. Whereas someone like vermont castings uses heavy gauge stainless throughout.
With weber you are really and trully paying for undeserved brand recognition.
Again, I'm speaking about gas grilles.
Their gas grills are really flimsy. Lots of plastic, lots of cheap details. Whereas someone like vermont castings uses heavy gauge stainless throughout.
With weber you are really and trully paying for undeserved brand recognition.
Again, I'm speaking about gas grilles.
Plastic? Where. Except for the side tables on my Weber, there is no plastic. Kinda makes sense
plastic + gas flame = melted grill
My Weber is rock solid. I do think they are expensive, but not any more than the VC grills I looked at.