Ionizers and Air Purifiers?

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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Ionizers and Air Purifiers?

Been looking around and into buying one to freshen up the house. It seems like every review online is biased and trying to get you to buy a product.

So does anyone have any recommendations for stuff like this? I'd like one that's more odor removal oriented than contaminants. Not looking to spend more than $150 though
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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I have an Ionic Breeze Quadra that I've used for a few years. I don't know how much "odor removal" it does, since I'd hope my house doesn't smell...but it definitely does its job picking up dust in the air. Its amazing how much dust the thing picks up in a week.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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I really like my Sharper Image Ionic Breeze. The master bedroom smells crisp and it does catch a lot of dust on the plates.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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I have a Bionare that I keep in my office at work. It gets super dusty around here and I think it helps a bit, but I'm not positive. I've not heard great reviews about any of these products, really.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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I work in an office and directly across my hallway is a VERY fat coworker. He's easily topping 500 lbs of purely disgusting, rarely-bathing, make-you-wanna-hurl STINK. After much complaining by all of his coworkers, the company bought an industrial-grade air purifier for his cubicle. (You'd have thought they might just tell him to bathe once in a while...).

IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL. His stench can still be noticed dozens of feet away. Poor me sits right across from him.

Interesting and hilarious footnote: The guy drives a Dodge Caravan and drives it SIDEWAYS. He faces the passenger seat, and drives with his left hand and left foot. He cannot physically wear a seatbelt, and has been ticketed numerous times by the same cop in the past month for not wearing one. Hahahahaha!!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by curls
I work in an office and directly across my hallway is a VERY fat coworker. He's easily topping 500 lbs of purely disgusting, rarely-bathing, make-you-wanna-hurl STINK. After much complaining by all of his coworkers, the company bought an industrial-grade air purifier for his cubicle. (You'd have thought they might just tell him to bathe once in a while...).

IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL. His stench can still be noticed dozens of feet away. Poor me sits right across from him.

Interesting and hilarious footnote: The guy drives a Dodge Caravan and drives it SIDEWAYS. He faces the passenger seat, and drives with his left hand and left foot. He cannot physically wear a seatbelt, and has been ticketed numerous times by the same cop in the past month for not wearing one. Hahahahaha!!


My already queasy-cuz-I-got-up-too-early tummy wants to hurl!!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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^

Time for a hostile workplace action.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by curls
I work in an office and directly across my hallway is a VERY fat coworker. He's easily topping 500 lbs of purely disgusting, rarely-bathing, make-you-wanna-hurl STINK. After much complaining by all of his coworkers, the company bought an industrial-grade air purifier for his cubicle. (You'd have thought they might just tell him to bathe once in a while...).

IT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL. His stench can still be noticed dozens of feet away. Poor me sits right across from him.

Interesting and hilarious footnote: The guy drives a Dodge Caravan and drives it SIDEWAYS. He faces the passenger seat, and drives with his left hand and left foot. He cannot physically wear a seatbelt, and has been ticketed numerous times by the same cop in the past month for not wearing one. Hahahahaha!!
Good on him for maintaining a steady job. So many obese people just call it quits and stay at home collecting welfare checks, blaming the food companies and the society for making them fat.

But who knows? He might already do that on the side.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Good on him for maintaining a steady job. So many obese people just call it quits and stay at home collecting welfare checks, blaming the food companies and the society for making them fat.

But who knows? He might already do that on the side.
I should probably have prefaced my entire thing by saying the following:
- He's unionized.
- He's the laziest person in history (has been caught sleeping on the job numerous times, blames it on Sleep Apnea and has a doctors' note to prove it).
- He abuses the system for everything and is a total socialist (expects the gov't to hand him everything he needs and this is regardless of him being a fatass on his own doing).
- He blames everyone but himself for everything.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Enjoy your heavy dose of Ozone

In a small, poorly ventilated room, an indoor air purifier that produces even a few milligrams of ozone per hour can create an ozone level that exceeds public health standards, researchers at UC Irvine have found.

Scientists also discovered that ozone produced by air purifiers adds to ozone already present in any room - a prediction that had never been experimentally verified in a realistic indoor environment.

"These results mean that people operating air purifiers indoors are more prone to being exposed to ozone levels in excess of public health standards," said Sergey A. Nizkorodov, a chemistry professor in the School of Physical Sciences at UCI.

Nizkorodov and UCI chemistry students Nicole Britigan and Ahmad Alshawa published their research in the current issue of the Journal of the Air & Waste Management Association. Their findings will be studied by officials deciding how to regulate the distribution of indoor air purifiers.

California lawmakers are considering legislation that would require the California Air Resources Board to adopt regulations to reduce emissions from indoor air cleaners by 2008. The state board and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency have issued advisories discouraging use of air purifiers, but the devices remain on the market because no agency has the outright authority to regulate how much ozone they produce.

Indoor air purification has gained widespread popularity with the surge in air pollution problems in urban areas.

Air purifiers target dust, pollen, airborne particles and volatile organic compounds, which are emitted by a wide range of products, including paint, cleaning supplies and pesticides. These pollutants are believed to aggravate respiratory and other health problems.

Indoor air purifiers are advertised as safe household products for health-conscious people - especially those who suffer from allergies and asthma - but some purifiers produce ozone during operation. For example, certain widely used ionic air purifiers, which work by charging airborne particles and electrostatically attracting them to metal electrodes, emit ozone as a byproduct of ionization.

Depending on the design, some ionic purifiers emit a few milligrams of ozone per hour, which is roughly equal to the amount emitted by a dry-process photocopier during continuous operation.

Ozone can damage the lungs, causing chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and throat irritation. It can also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections - even in healthy people.

For this study, the research group tested several types of air purifiers for their ability to produce ozone at 40 percent to 50 percent relative humidity in various indoor environments, including offices, bathrooms, bedrooms and cars.

Placed inside a room, the air purifier was turned on, and the ozone concentration buildup was tracked until a steady level of ozone was reached. In many cases, indoor ozone levels far exceeded outdoor safety guidelines, which in California are 90 parts per billion for one hour and 70 parts per billion for eight hours.

The ozone level in some instances reached higher than 350 parts per billion - more than enough to trigger a Stage 2 smog alert if similar levels were detected outside. A Stage 2 alert last occurred in the Southern California coastal air basin in 1988.

Of the spaces tested, the largest increase in steady ozone levels occurred in small rooms with little ventilation, especially those containing materials that react slowly with ozone such as glossy ceramic tile, PVC tile and polyethylene, which is used in plastic. Ozone reacts quicker with materials such as carpet, cloth, rubber and certain metals, destroying itself in the process.

People who operate purifiers indoors are more likely to be exposed to ozone levels that exceed health standards because ozone from these devices adds to ozone that already exists in the room.

Said Nizkorodov: "If 30 parts per billion of ozone exist in the room because dirty outside air is leaking into the house, turning on an air purifier that generates 50 parts per billion of ozone creates a total ozone level of 80 parts per billion."

About AirUCI: Nizkorodov is a researcher with AirUCI - Atmospheric Integrated Research Using Chemistry at Interfaces - a multi-investigator effort led by chemistry professor Barbara Finlayson-Pitts to better understand how air and water interact in the atmosphere and how those processes affect air quality and global climate change. In 2004, UCI was awarded a total of $7.5 million over five years from the National Science Foundation to establish AirUCI, an Environmental Molecular Science Institute - one of only seven currently funded EMSIs dedicated to understanding at the molecular level how human activity and nature contribute to global environmental problems.

About the University of California, Irvine: The University of California, Irvine is a top-ranked university dedicated to research, scholarship and community service. Founded in 1965, UCI is among the fastest-growing University of California campuses, with more than 24,000 undergraduate and graduate students and about 1,400 faculty members. The second-largest employer in dynamic Orange County, UCI contributes an annual economic impact of $3.3 billion. For more UCI news, visit www.today.uci.edu.

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http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/8149

The health risks from air purifiers are not worth it.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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I read about the ozone problem before, which made me question using a purifier. My allergist pushed hard for me to get one, though, so I did. But I don't use it very much. I go days without even turning it on. I get annoyed with it when it is on, because it makes too much noise and I end up having to turn it off when I'm on the phone.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Good on him for maintaining a steady job. So many obese people just call it quits and stay at home collecting welfare checks, blaming the food companies and the society for making them fat.

But who knows? He might already do that on the side.
Wait... blame the food companies because HE is fat?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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lol thanks for the story guys, really made my day a little brighter, been raining all week.

i've read about the ozone causing people to have headaches and throwing up. which is why i have been hesitant.

so i guess the only real alternative are those with filters you gotta replace all the time?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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There was a heated debate about these on Azine a few years back...I think we all decided that they don't really work and that the plane will take off...I have two and they pick up dust, but so does my window blinds...
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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^^ window blinds: ghetto air purifier
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
There was a heated debate about these on Azine a few years back...I think we all decided that they don't really work and that the plane will take off...I have two and they pick up dust, but so does my window blinds...
Yup.

Hepa Air Filter + Charcoal pre filter > Ionic systems. Case closed.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Here are the other threads....

https://acurazine.com/forums/home-garden-37/eliminating-dust-313550/

https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/so-does-anyone-actually-have-one-these-328701/
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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I like my ionic breeze, I can't afford replacement hepa filters/too lazy and these things don't emit too much noise if you keep them clean.

I even break mine down once a year and clean it with alcohol. Been using the same one for 5yrs now, def. keeps the air cleaner. I'm sure you guys are right about hepa being better but this is right for me.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Sly is right.

Not only are they better, but the ionic breeze is a health hazard.

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Shares of Sharper Image fell nearly 9 percent on Tuesday after Consumer Reports magazine renewed criticism on one of its popular air purifiers in its May issue.

The magazine, hitting newsstands on Tuesday, said that Sharper Image's Ionic Breeze Quadra Silent Air Purifier and four other similar air purifiers fail to significantly clean the air -- some can also expose users to potentially harmful ozone levels.

Consumer Reports said it tested ionizing air cleaners for ozone levels and for their ability to remove dust, cigarette smoke and pollen from the air, and Sharper Image's Professional Series Ionic Breeze Quadra SI737 SNX is one of five products that was ineffective as air cleaners.

Four other models included Brookstone Pure-Ion, Ionic Pro CL-369, IonizAir P4620 and the Surround Air XJ-2000.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/05/tech...sharper_image/
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Yup.

Hepa Air Filter + Charcoal pre filter > Ionic systems. Case closed.

I think this is about it...
I have a rabbit air bio gs and a close "sharp" model..
the rabbit air has a nice setup when it comes to filters.
cleans the air but both do not gather all the dust. allergies is where
I noticed the biggest change. consider the price of filters too.
good luck
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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^^^ I think one of the biggest things people can do to help eliminate allergens is to simply keep their places clean. Do that, and filters won't have to clean as much, extending their life and your dollar.

But you're right, it can get pricey, but the filter setup is the proper way to go.
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