House v. Condo?
House v. Condo?
Right now I am leaning torwards a condo because I feel you can get a larger newer living space and less outside upkeep. On the other hand you have a house with actual land and may be the better investment.
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I think buying a Condo is a good idea because when you're ready to buy a house for yourself, a Condo is much easier to rent as rental income. Not as many renters want to rent a whole single family house.
the downside to a condo is the condo fees...they can go up like crazy, but it is still a lot less maintenance than a house, and like tmk said renting it out later is always a plus
It also very much depends on where you are... check the local appreciation rates on houses v condos... you may be much better off doing a house if it is going to appreciate more rapidly than your condo expenses, or vice versa
It also very much depends on where you are... check the local appreciation rates on houses v condos... you may be much better off doing a house if it is going to appreciate more rapidly than your condo expenses, or vice versa
personally, I would go condo...well, how much sq ft are we talking about here?? #BR #BA etc.....
Condos are better to start out with but it depends on your lifestyle...do you want kids and a dog?? Do you LIKE to mow the lawn?? Do you like to be able to pick up and leave easily??? Do you need a garage (dont know of a lot of condos that come with attached ones but they do exist). Just ask yourself some questions like this and you should be able to figure it out on your own. But I say condo.
Condos are better to start out with but it depends on your lifestyle...do you want kids and a dog?? Do you LIKE to mow the lawn?? Do you like to be able to pick up and leave easily??? Do you need a garage (dont know of a lot of condos that come with attached ones but they do exist). Just ask yourself some questions like this and you should be able to figure it out on your own. But I say condo.
Those condo fees can get out of hand real fast if the people collecting/managing them do a bad job.
And there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it when they go up every year, besides move.
You can have the neighborhood kid’s cut grass and shovel snow at your house if you don’t want to.
And there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it when they go up every year, besides move.
You can have the neighborhood kid’s cut grass and shovel snow at your house if you don’t want to.
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We had the same decision, but the prices of houses are crazy, so we bought and moved into a brand-new townhouse and are very happy. It's new, so the maintenance fees are low, and the value has gone through the roof.... even outpaced houses in the area (example, models that sold for $305k are now selling for $454k only 7-8 months later).
The advantage of a townhouse.... it's a house, but is classified as a condo with the city/town, so taxes are lower then if we had the same size house. The only thing that sucks is you don't have your own land... but honestly, it's not a problem for us. We don't have kids or animals, so our little yard is find for BBQs, etc. We'll probably look to move within 3 years and at that point we'll get a house.... but to start, this was a great move for us and turned out to be a killer investment... so if you're just starting out I'd go with a condo or townhouse!
The advantage of a townhouse.... it's a house, but is classified as a condo with the city/town, so taxes are lower then if we had the same size house. The only thing that sucks is you don't have your own land... but honestly, it's not a problem for us. We don't have kids or animals, so our little yard is find for BBQs, etc. We'll probably look to move within 3 years and at that point we'll get a house.... but to start, this was a great move for us and turned out to be a killer investment... so if you're just starting out I'd go with a condo or townhouse!
I bought a condo right out of school and it was great. Didn't have to by a lawn mower, didn't have to water the lawn, worry about shoveling the snow...
But we're building a house now, because that is what our lives now dictate. However, we are having a BITCH of a time selling our condo. Keep in mind that condos do not sell as well as single family homes.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have sucked it up, bought a small single family home. Yeah, I would have had more work to do, but when it came time to sell, it'd would have been much easier to dump it.
But we're building a house now, because that is what our lives now dictate. However, we are having a BITCH of a time selling our condo. Keep in mind that condos do not sell as well as single family homes.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have sucked it up, bought a small single family home. Yeah, I would have had more work to do, but when it came time to sell, it'd would have been much easier to dump it.
maybe where you live... i have been trying to buy a condo in northern virginia for over 3 months... everytime they come on the market they go for like 10-30K over asking price... i keep getting into bidding wars... it ALL depends on the area... thus check the appreciation there...
Originally posted by juniorbean
We had the same decision, but the prices of houses are crazy,
The advantage of a townhouse.... it's a house, but is classified as a condo with the city/town, so taxes are lower then if we had the same size house. The only thing that sucks is you don't have your own land... but honestly, it's not a problem for us. We don't have kids or animals, so our little yard is find for BBQs, etc. We'll probably look to move within 3 years and at that point we'll get a house.... but to start, this was a great move for us and turned out to be a killer investment... so if you're just starting out I'd go with a condo or townhouse!
We had the same decision, but the prices of houses are crazy,
The advantage of a townhouse.... it's a house, but is classified as a condo with the city/town, so taxes are lower then if we had the same size house. The only thing that sucks is you don't have your own land... but honestly, it's not a problem for us. We don't have kids or animals, so our little yard is find for BBQs, etc. We'll probably look to move within 3 years and at that point we'll get a house.... but to start, this was a great move for us and turned out to be a killer investment... so if you're just starting out I'd go with a condo or townhouse!
FYI not all townhomes are classified as condo's. Check that if you are buying. Townhome is a nice inbetween. Little lawn, little more room. no one above or below you is a great thing.
I personally can't stand to live that close to someone (as in a condo or appartment). You can smell what they are eating, both before and after. I'll take a house anyday. I can't even hardly see my nieghbors, can even enjoy the pool and hot tub without people seeing(if you know what I mean). I'll take the upkeep anyday. I like my privacy.
It all depneds on how you plan to live and what the market is like.
As for the condo fees - each year the board of the association will make and review the budget for the upcoming year. The reason the fees go up is b/c the costs incurred by teh association go up. Post 9/11 insurance tends to be one of (or the) biggest expenses faced by most condos (usually followed depending on the property) by the landscape fees. I think that if you do the math in any given market, the fees for the condo are not much worse than what it will cost to pay for those same expenses in a house - however, there are a few other items which you would not run into expense-wise in a house, unless the house is located in a deed restricted community with an association. One important item to note is that many states require the condo to put aside money as reserves for certain future repairs. You will be constributing to this as a part of your monthly/quarterely dues. These are real costs which will be insurred, but obviously in the purchase of a single family home you are not putting aside every month money for home repairs - you just make them as they come due. Let me know if you have any further questions on the legal side of your debate.
As for the condo fees - each year the board of the association will make and review the budget for the upcoming year. The reason the fees go up is b/c the costs incurred by teh association go up. Post 9/11 insurance tends to be one of (or the) biggest expenses faced by most condos (usually followed depending on the property) by the landscape fees. I think that if you do the math in any given market, the fees for the condo are not much worse than what it will cost to pay for those same expenses in a house - however, there are a few other items which you would not run into expense-wise in a house, unless the house is located in a deed restricted community with an association. One important item to note is that many states require the condo to put aside money as reserves for certain future repairs. You will be constributing to this as a part of your monthly/quarterely dues. These are real costs which will be insurred, but obviously in the purchase of a single family home you are not putting aside every month money for home repairs - you just make them as they come due. Let me know if you have any further questions on the legal side of your debate.
just buy an RV, if you get sick of your neighbors you can move, its a lot cheaper than a house, and you won't need any more mods
so it will depreciate like hell...but who wants to make money
so it will depreciate like hell...but who wants to make money
Originally posted by lrutt
I personally can't stand to live that close to someone (as in a condo or appartment). You can smell what they are eating, both before and after. I'll take a house anyday. I can't even hardly see my nieghbors, can even enjoy the pool and hot tub without people seeing(if you know what I mean). I'll take the upkeep anyday. I like my privacy.
I personally can't stand to live that close to someone (as in a condo or appartment). You can smell what they are eating, both before and after. I'll take a house anyday. I can't even hardly see my nieghbors, can even enjoy the pool and hot tub without people seeing(if you know what I mean). I'll take the upkeep anyday. I like my privacy.
95gt - you're right.. it probably varies by town... in our town it works out that way, so it's better for us.
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Unless you are buying new construction, don't expect it to appreciate a great deal. Not sure what the housing market is in Dayton.
My townhouse has appreciated 60% since I moved in 5 years ago, but that boom is over.
My townhouse has appreciated 60% since I moved in 5 years ago, but that boom is over.
Originally posted by lrutt
I personally can't stand to live that close to someone (as in a condo or appartment). You can smell what they are eating, both before and after. I'll take a house anyday. I can't even hardly see my nieghbors, can even enjoy the pool and hot tub without people seeing(if you know what I mean). I'll take the upkeep anyday. I like my privacy.
I personally can't stand to live that close to someone (as in a condo or appartment). You can smell what they are eating, both before and after. I'll take a house anyday. I can't even hardly see my nieghbors, can even enjoy the pool and hot tub without people seeing(if you know what I mean). I'll take the upkeep anyday. I like my privacy.
Also witha condo/townhome, check out where your vehicles will be parked & see if they will be in harms way. See if you have sufficient parking if family stops by...etc.
If maintenance is a worry, buy a house with a smaller yard.
I am in the process of buying a replacement house and here is my hypothetical research...
Condo $150,000. DP 20% is $30,000. Rate of 6% for 30 years and payments will be $720. HOA dues are typically about $150/month. Total comes to $870.
House $200,000 DP 20% is $40,000. Rate of 6% for 30 years and payment will be $960. No HOA.
Fair enough that taxes may be slightly more for a house and condo HOA have some built in insurance.
But with a house, most likely, you will get more living area and superior garage amenity. Re-sale is better. HOA is not a write off.
Buy a house and forget the condo.
IMHO.
Condo $150,000. DP 20% is $30,000. Rate of 6% for 30 years and payments will be $720. HOA dues are typically about $150/month. Total comes to $870.
House $200,000 DP 20% is $40,000. Rate of 6% for 30 years and payment will be $960. No HOA.
Fair enough that taxes may be slightly more for a house and condo HOA have some built in insurance.
But with a house, most likely, you will get more living area and superior garage amenity. Re-sale is better. HOA is not a write off.
Buy a house and forget the condo.
IMHO.
townhouse for me by next year. i'm making good money and credit is almost perfect. i'm single and never home because of work, so i dont need a house to maintain. its gonna be in PA tho even tho i spend 75% of my time in Jersey... shit is just cheaper and nicer in PA... probably couldn't afford anything nice in Jersey. if i get my own place, its gonna be nice... not some dump
Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Condo single
House family
Condo single
House family
Condo = 1 carport or 1 car garage (if you are lucky).
House = 2 car garage...
Bite the bullet and get the house. Better investment overall.
If single-family homes are ridiculous (they are $600K and up around here for a 1800 sq-ft place!!)... a townhouse is a good bet. Some advice;
Research into how much the Home Owner's Association has in the bank and what their past fee increases (and frequency) have been
What is offered as part of the community - Earthquake insurance, water, cable, trash etc.?
Townhomes appreciate significantly as well - around here, they have gone up > 100K in 2yrs.
Three things to know about real-estate:
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!!
Research into how much the Home Owner's Association has in the bank and what their past fee increases (and frequency) have been
What is offered as part of the community - Earthquake insurance, water, cable, trash etc.?
Townhomes appreciate significantly as well - around here, they have gone up > 100K in 2yrs.
Three things to know about real-estate:
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!!
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