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Did you know that induction stoves heat faster than methane stoves, offer more accurate temp controls, cost less to run than methane, and don't emit hazardous fumes that reduce indoor air quality and give your kids asthma?
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Honestly, I love my gas stove but I only use it with ventilation and my house has a whole home air exchanger that will exchange all the air in my house 3-4 times per day. Had an electric stove in my old house and I hated it, wish I would have changed over when we remodeled our kitchen back then. Using gas with cast iron cookware has been amazing. Never tried induction though.
The study that came out seems to be legit but it does not even scratch the surface of what's going on in regards to gas stoves. There's any number of different variables between how good one stove is vs another and if ventilation is used not to mention how old and how well maintained a stove is along with what kind of HVAC system is sued.
Why?
Honestly, I love my gas stove but I only use it with ventilation and my house has a whole home air exchanger that will exchange all the air in my house 3-4 times per day. Had an electric stove in my old house and I hated it, wish I would have changed over when we remodeled our kitchen back then. Using gas with cast iron cookware has been amazing. Never tried induction though.
The study that came out seems to be legit but it does not even scratch the surface of what's going on in regards to gas stoves. There's any number of different variables between how good one stove is vs another and if ventilation is used not to mention how old and how well maintained a stove is along with what kind of HVAC system is sued.
Honestly, I love my gas stove but I only use it with ventilation and my house has a whole home air exchanger that will exchange all the air in my house 3-4 times per day. Had an electric stove in my old house and I hated it, wish I would have changed over when we remodeled our kitchen back then. Using gas with cast iron cookware has been amazing. Never tried induction though.
The study that came out seems to be legit but it does not even scratch the surface of what's going on in regards to gas stoves. There's any number of different variables between how good one stove is vs another and if ventilation is used not to mention how old and how well maintained a stove is along with what kind of HVAC system is sued.
I have ventilation in my house and an air exchanger (the house is 5yrs old), so that isn't really a concern for me. It's mainly from an efficiency and ease of use aspect.
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Time for a new cooktop then? My gas one now is WAY faster and more consistent than the electric stove I had at my old house which was from 2017. Easier to keep clean than a glass top electric one too.
Edit: If you're losing a ton of heat around the outside of the pan, switch to a smaller burner size.
Edit: If you're losing a ton of heat around the outside of the pan, switch to a smaller burner size.
If I'm buying a new one, it's going to be induction 
I always choose my burner size based on the size of the pan and what I'm trying to do with it. But there's still a TON of wasted energy with gas cooktops no matter which way to slice it.
https://www.leafscore.com/eco-friend...nt%20efficient.
And yeah, gas cooktops are better at their job than electric coil cooktops, but induction is better than both, and in many categories it's not even close.
I always choose my burner size based on the size of the pan and what I'm trying to do with it. But there's still a TON of wasted energy with gas cooktops no matter which way to slice it.
https://www.leafscore.com/eco-friend...nt%20efficient.
And yeah, gas cooktops are better at their job than electric coil cooktops, but induction is better than both, and in many categories it's not even close.
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We've got a large 6-burner gas with multiple size burners. Love cooking on it, and it'll boil a large pot of water pretty quickly on the double 'power' burner.
36" Z-line Black Stainless. $2k at the Depot of Home
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If y’all want to experiment with induction you can get a small countertop “burner” for about $60. You’ll quickly realize how shit your gas stove is
Duxtop 1800W Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop Burner, Gold 8100MC/BT-180G3 https://a.co/d/j4ayunA
Duxtop 1800W Portable Induction Cooktop Countertop Burner, Gold 8100MC/BT-180G3 https://a.co/d/j4ayunA
I looked into the tax incentives and the switch to induction may be happening this year. I need to price out a new 40amp circuit though. It looks like I can get back up to $840 on the cooktop itself and up to $2500 on the wiring to the cooktop. We've been eyeing new appliances so this may finally push us over the edge.
The majority of my cookware is induction compatible. Aluminum pans aren't, and I think we have one of those (which I rarely use because it's trash). We don't have any copper pans either. All my cast iron stuff works on it.
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99% of ours is Calphalon, with a random Gotham Steel-esque copper pan, great for eggs. And a couple cast iron pieces.
Just got a new Lodge CI griddle since our cheap Imusa was starting to stick a lot.
I love my Lodge CI stuff - if induction didn't work with it, it would be a non-starter
I talked with my fiance a bit about making the switch and she's on board. I'll be keeping an eye out for a deal on a cooktop & oven over the next few months.
I talked with my fiance a bit about making the switch and she's on board. I'll be keeping an eye out for a deal on a cooktop & oven over the next few months.
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The pan must be made of metal that can be magnetized which most pans can. Cast Iron, and stainless steel will work.
I have a set of All Clad Stainless Steel D3 pots and pans and they're fantastic pans and will work with Induction, aluminum will not, but since my pans have two layers of stainless steel with a layer of aluminum in between them they'll still work fine with induction.
I have a set of All Clad Stainless Steel D3 pots and pans and they're fantastic pans and will work with Induction, aluminum will not, but since my pans have two layers of stainless steel with a layer of aluminum in between them they'll still work fine with induction.
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I looked into the tax incentives and the switch to induction may be happening this year. I need to price out a new 40amp circuit though. It looks like I can get back up to $840 on the cooktop itself and up to $2500 on the wiring to the cooktop. We've been eyeing new appliances so this may finally push us over the edge.
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How Do You Apply for a Rebate?
Once the DOE allocates funding to individual states, those states will still need time to set up these programs. Once they’re up and running, the DOE suggests visiting the Database of State Incentives for Renewables and Efficiency, which tracks tax incentives and credits related to energy efficiency in all 50 states. Click on your state to check whether they’ve rolled out the program locally, and follow the steps listed.Save any paperwork related to the purchase and installation of your qualifying appliance. Follow your state’s specific steps, including filing any applications. You’ll likely receive the rebate at the point of sale or in the form of a check or direct deposit. But keep in mind your state will set specific parameters. If you upgrade your home’s electrical panel to accommodate an electric cooking appliance, you’ll likely receive that money back in the form of a tax credit when you file your state and federal income taxes next year.
Database of State Insenvtives for renewables and efficiency: https://www.dsireusa.org/
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Home Depot has 20 push lawn mowers on display. 13 are electric, 7 are gas. My next door neighbor asked about my electric mower a while back now they have one. We love to see it, don’t we folks! Let’s fucking goooo
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I've got an electric mower & blower, probably replace my 2-stroke Stihl string trimmer too.
Convenience is definitely there for home power tools. Fewer gas cans to deal with & not having a truck, I don't have to put the gas can inside the car.
I love my electric mower, blower and string trimmer. But at the end of last season, it seems like the batteries have reached their end after just 4 seasons on them. 
I'm not going back to gas, but it sucks that it makes more sense buying an all new mower than shelling out hundreds on the batteries alone.