seriously thinkin or roids
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Originally Posted by mc222
You can do direct muscle injections, but it hurts like a bitch because you have to stick the needle in pretty damn deep (and accurately)
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Originally Posted by ferizzo
I can't believe some people here are actually pro-steriods! That's retarded!
#51
Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Is there anyway to get roids into a specific muscle only? Like, say, if I was to shoot a small amount into my right forearm only would I be able to just make that huge? Think how cool it would be to get in a fight with somebody then stop to roll up your right sleeve and start saying things like "I didn't want to have to use this"...
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Originally Posted by r0dxx
Actually there is...Their is something called Synthol (sp?) injections...There is some homo who has the biggest arms in the world who uses synthol all the time search the internet you'll find him.
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[QUOTE=Always Dirty]Is there anyway to get roids into a specific muscle only? Like, say, if I was to shoot a small amount into my right forearm only would I be able to just make that huge? Think how cool it would be to pull it out then stop to roll up my right sleeve and start saying things like "I didn't want to have to use this"...[/QUOTE]
#56
Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
That OR making analogies comparing using roids to smoking and drinking. It's just shows how lazy and undedicated most people are to making actual strength gains through hard work. But to each his own.
While there are plenty of people out there who are lazy and just use roids to get big. You'd be surprised at the amount of people out there who use roids the safest way possible and are more than dedicated to their diet and training. Hell, there's guys on roids that ARE MORE dedicated than 99% of people in a gym. It's a lifestyle for some people and it's the line they choose to cross. As I see it, if they mess up they harm themselves.
#57
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you cant just use roids and get big.. you will get fat.. you have to work out like a mofo along with the roids if u want to get the results you want. before i used em. i worked out every 2nd day good workouts too... in the 4 years i gained like 8 lbs. i used the roids.. worked out EVERYDAY for 3 months straight 3x as hard as i did when i was off em and put on almost 30 lbs. my workout buddy who did the same thing didnt work out as hard.. he stuck to the same ol every 2 days routine... he gained 10 lbs the whole cycle and it was all fat. so dont call someone lazy just because they use roids..
oh and i havent used any in over 1 year ... i took 1 cycle ever... but right now am really thinking hard about doing cycle #2
oh and i looked up/researched about what i wanted to do and for how long, and what i have to do to cycle off of them before i even made the order.
oh and i havent used any in over 1 year ... i took 1 cycle ever... but right now am really thinking hard about doing cycle #2
oh and i looked up/researched about what i wanted to do and for how long, and what i have to do to cycle off of them before i even made the order.
#59
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I guess to each their own. I just think its not worth it. I agree that the peeps who roid tend to be pretty dedicated. The real question is what are you getting big for? Are you a powerlifter, professional athlete, or bodybuilder? If not what do you want to get so big and cut for that you are willing to take a chance fucking up your body?
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First of all...PROLONGED use messes with your nuts. Actually, your first time, your testosterone goes through the roof...all you wanna do is bang! ALSO....your dick is a muscle, It can get bigger from roid use. As for only doing winstrol.....it won't really be that effective, you need to stack it with injectible test to see some go differences. The only thing I say is IF you do decide to do it, make sure you don't end up shooting peanut oil!
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Originally Posted by Nicky Pass
First of all...PROLONGED use messes with your nuts. Actually, your first time, your testosterone goes through the roof...all you wanna do is bang! ALSO....your dick is a muscle, It can get bigger from roid use. As for only doing winstrol.....it won't really be that effective, you need to stack it with injectible test to see some go differences. The only thing I say is IF you do decide to do it, make sure you don't end up shooting peanut oil!
#62
Originally Posted by ferizzo
I guess to each their own. I just think its not worth it. I agree that the peeps who roid tend to be pretty dedicated. The real question is what are you getting big for? Are you a powerlifter, professional athlete, or bodybuilder? If not what do you want to get so big and cut for that you are willing to take a chance fucking up your body?
The closest analogy I can think of is plastic surgery for strictly cosmetic reasons. Actors and models do it to get parts, pose in playboy, etc. But then you have your everyday citizen getting plastic surgery.
Hope that makes sense Ferrizo.
#63
Originally Posted by KCPreki11
Are you telling me my analogy doesn't make sense. The only argument you have is that roids are illegal and cigs are legal.
While there are plenty of people out there who are lazy and just use roids to get big. You'd be surprised at the amount of people out there who use roids the safest way possible and are more than dedicated to their diet and training. Hell, there's guys on roids that ARE MORE dedicated than 99% of people in a gym. It's a lifestyle for some people and it's the line they choose to cross. As I see it, if they mess up they harm themselves.
While there are plenty of people out there who are lazy and just use roids to get big. You'd be surprised at the amount of people out there who use roids the safest way possible and are more than dedicated to their diet and training. Hell, there's guys on roids that ARE MORE dedicated than 99% of people in a gym. It's a lifestyle for some people and it's the line they choose to cross. As I see it, if they mess up they harm themselves.
i actually agree with you on this one, theres no body in the gym i go to that would want to lift with me except the guys i lift with... balls to the wall every set every rep. i admit i "dabble" and i can guarentee your ass im far from lazy and far from fat. ive been lifting for almost 7 years now, 3 years hardcore so its become a lifestyle for me that i chose. to me it s no different then people choosing to smoke or drink alcohol. if i decide to go to the next level and compete (amatuer of course) ll be ready...and btw the lazy "no-knowledge-non-lifting-juicer-idiots" are who we call the the ricers of the bb'ing world.
and losing alll gains made from aas is bs unless you stop ligting altogether, how the hell would pros get to their size if you lose what you gain. tell ronnie hes a lazy ass cheater, please. or jay, dexter, chris cormier theyre all lazy cheaters....a lot of ignorance and misinformation in this thread.
if any body doubts my dedication or "lazyness for using the muscle boosting cheater method", ive made offers before, come to the golds in the cascades, va location or the clocktowers in herndon. im there 5 days a week
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and like i said in gavrills thread a while ago, to gain the muscle most assume theyll achieve while on gear, where its a dramatic , signifigant gain in muscle appearance, size and strength, believe me you dont halfass your workouts you go to failure then drop sets which will have your blood pumpng and fibers throbbing and youre stomach in a uproar, cuz while on gear i dont care what anybody says there is no over training. also try eating food that begins to taste like cardboard for 3-4 months, chicken rice eggs steak veggies plain oats and pasta and powders, it gets down-right disgusting...if thats the lazy way out than damn im the epitamy (sp?) of the word...
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Originally Posted by DivineCL
I work out 4x a week and absolutely hate when
cheaters come to the gym all scrony, then in 3 months
their bigger than me and act as if they got their through hard work. I train hard and have got good results
from my work put in. Be a real man and do it naturally!
Besides, Winstrol and other steroids have major side affects that can scar you for life. Here is a list of some:
1. Feminine Chest
2. Pimples all over your body
3. Peanut size nuts
4. Penis equal to a 4 y/o
5. No Patience
6. "Addicting", before you know it you will rely on steroid like you rely on oxygen to live.
7. 1 Minute-man
8. You gets no credit from the "REAL" bodybuilders.
Any others that I missed, feel free to add to my list.
cheaters come to the gym all scrony, then in 3 months
their bigger than me and act as if they got their through hard work. I train hard and have got good results
from my work put in. Be a real man and do it naturally!
Besides, Winstrol and other steroids have major side affects that can scar you for life. Here is a list of some:
1. Feminine Chest
2. Pimples all over your body
3. Peanut size nuts
4. Penis equal to a 4 y/o
5. No Patience
6. "Addicting", before you know it you will rely on steroid like you rely on oxygen to live.
7. 1 Minute-man
8. You gets no credit from the "REAL" bodybuilders.
Any others that I missed, feel free to add to my list.
work out the real way and you WILL get results. get with a trainor at a gym, and he/she will formulate a plan so you can gain mass quickly. also, step up your protein intake, but DON'T cut carbs. this will only hurt your body in the long run (and won't help you lose any fat).
if you stick to a plan rigidly, it really doesn't take long to get good results. you'll start to see changes in as little as a few weeks, IF YOU STICK TO IT and don't cheat your diet/workout plan.
#66
Wow, "responsible" and roids used in the same sentence...that's a first.
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
...if thats the lazy way out than damn im the epitamy (sp?) of the word...
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Originally Posted by KCPreki11
it's reversible, unless hes stupid.
Stupid's not reversible so no harm, no foul here!
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and since when does your penis shrink???? thats the most rediculous thing ive ever heard and probably the stupidest in regards to steroid use, your testes atrophy just like your muscles do when you dont use them, but as soon as youre off and follow up with the proper pcr/pct youre back to normal...media hype is what yall go by and its sounds ridiculous, thank god no other real, serious lifters or bb's read this cuz its rather embarassing...remember there are a few lifting hobbyist on this site and i can feel safe to say im one of the top 3 of themn regards to dedication, the lifestyle, whatever but this is still a car related forum so not the best place to ask for advice
phile-thats spells ep-it-ome, what the hell is ep-it-ome,
phile-thats spells ep-it-ome, what the hell is ep-it-ome,
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
and since when does your penis shrink???? thats the most rediculous thing ive ever heard and probably the stupidest in regards to steroid use, your testes atrophy just like your muscles do when you dont use them, but as soon as youre off and follow up with the proper pcr/pct youre back to normal...media hype is what yall go by and its sounds ridiculous, thank god no other real, serious lifters or bb's read this cuz its rather embarassing...remember there are a few lifting hobbyist on this site and i can feel safe to say im one of the top 3 of themn regards to dedication, the lifestyle, whatever but this is still a car related forum so not the best place to ask for advice
phile-thats spells ep-it-ome, what the hell is ep-it-ome,
phile-thats spells ep-it-ome, what the hell is ep-it-ome,
Your muscles atrophy only in disease...such as quadriplegia, where you have no way of moving them.
But that's not why your balls shrink, anyway. It's because of negative feedback to the brain...injection of steroids alerts the brain that there is an excess level of androgens floating around...it does not know where it's coming from (cause it's obviously not the one producing this excess), so the brain stops producing its normal level of androgens to counterbalance that excess. This results in less production of testosterone, which, of course, shrinks your balls, temporarily. And that is also why they grow back to their normal size, once your body gets it together (ie found a way to balance out that excess level of male hormones), it sets in to equilibrium.
But of course that's just with your balls...other vitals organs, such as your liver, once it goes bad, there's no going back. So there's more danger to steroids than just ball shrinkage.
#73
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Taking this just a little too personal there, maybe you ought to lay off the roids
Originally Posted by phile
Yes, that spells epitome :captainobvious:
Yes genius, notice the
eithier way dont come to a car forum to ask advice for bb'ing, period.
Yes genius, notice the
eithier way dont come to a car forum to ask advice for bb'ing, period.
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Why, do you think he's a little edgy???
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Originally Posted by Always Dirty
Is there anyway to get roids into a specific muscle only? Like, say, if I was to shoot a small amount into my right forearm only would I be able to just make that huge? Think how cool it would be to get in a fight with somebody then stop to roll up your right sleeve and start saying things like "I didn't want to have to use this"...
#76
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Originally Posted by KCPreki11
Are you telling me my analogy doesn't make sense. The only argument you have is that roids are illegal and cigs are legal.
While there are plenty of people out there who are lazy and just use roids to get big. You'd be surprised at the amount of people out there who use roids the safest way possible and are more than dedicated to their diet and training. Hell, there's guys on roids that ARE MORE dedicated than 99% of people in a gym. It's a lifestyle for some people and it's the line they choose to cross. As I see it, if they mess up they harm themselves.
While there are plenty of people out there who are lazy and just use roids to get big. You'd be surprised at the amount of people out there who use roids the safest way possible and are more than dedicated to their diet and training. Hell, there's guys on roids that ARE MORE dedicated than 99% of people in a gym. It's a lifestyle for some people and it's the line they choose to cross. As I see it, if they mess up they harm themselves.
In the end it doesn't really matter what you and I think about people who use roids because it really has no bearing on what WE do in the gym and how we live our lives. It is just an opinion, nothing more.
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
and like i said in gavrills thread a while ago, to gain the muscle most assume theyll achieve while on gear, where its a dramatic , signifigant gain in muscle appearance, size and strength, believe me you dont halfass your workouts you go to failure then drop sets which will have your blood pumpng and fibers throbbing and youre stomach in a uproar, cuz while on gear i dont care what anybody says there is no over training. also try eating food that begins to taste like cardboard for 3-4 months, chicken rice eggs steak veggies plain oats and pasta and powders, it gets down-right disgusting...if thats the lazy way out than damn im the epitamy (sp?) of the word...
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I am not saying anyone who takes roids is "lazy" but is just cheating their way to gains. Like someone said above, it can be compared to plastic surgery in that people cheat their way to looking like something they really aren't.
But from my point of view, I lead a very healthy lifestyle and to me taking roids nullifies such a lifestyle. In the end it is a just my take and not gospel. It's not like you'll see me on some street corner preaching about how roids are the devil, but you also won't ever see me hang with people that are part of that lifestyle. I lift hard as hell and I am very strong - would I be bigger and stronger if I cycled? Yes, but that isn't how I want to achieve my strength goals. I want to know that I completely earned it through my own work, not with the assistance of some outside agent.
#78
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Originally Posted by Nicky Pass
First of all...PROLONGED use messes with your nuts. Actually, your first time, your testosterone goes through the roof...all you wanna do is bang! ALSO....your dick is a muscle, It can get bigger from roid use. As for only doing winstrol.....it won't really be that effective, you need to stack it with injectible test to see some go differences. The only thing I say is IF you do decide to do it, make sure you don't end up shooting peanut oil!
#79
Originally Posted by Adam_Schwartz
Don't take offense to this man, but there are plenty of people in the world who eat like that ALL THE TIME, me included. Chicken titties, turkey titty, sweet taters, brown rice, fish, lentils, etc, etc.
I am not saying anyone who takes roids is "lazy" but is just cheating their way to gains. Like someone said above, it can be compared to plastic surgery in that people cheat their way to looking like something they really aren't.
But from my point of view, I lead a very healthy lifestyle and to me taking roids nullifies such a lifestyle. In the end it is a just my take and not gospel. It's not like you'll see me on some street corner preaching about how roids are the devil, but you also won't ever see me hang with people that are part of that lifestyle. I lift hard as hell and I am very strong - would I be bigger and stronger if I cycled? Yes, but that isn't how I want to achieve my strength goals. I want to know that I completely earned it through my own work, not with the assistance of some outside agent.
I am not saying anyone who takes roids is "lazy" but is just cheating their way to gains. Like someone said above, it can be compared to plastic surgery in that people cheat their way to looking like something they really aren't.
But from my point of view, I lead a very healthy lifestyle and to me taking roids nullifies such a lifestyle. In the end it is a just my take and not gospel. It's not like you'll see me on some street corner preaching about how roids are the devil, but you also won't ever see me hang with people that are part of that lifestyle. I lift hard as hell and I am very strong - would I be bigger and stronger if I cycled? Yes, but that isn't how I want to achieve my strength goals. I want to know that I completely earned it through my own work, not with the assistance of some outside agent.
im not taking offense at all, its just the ignorance people have towards that issue that bothers me. also, the people who choose to use aas arent any different from anybody else, and trust me, youd be very surprised by the people who use them...high paying occupations, family oriented, well-off men. not all are drug abusing punks.
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
im not taking offense at all, its just the ignorance people have towards that issue that bothers me. also, the people who choose to use aas arent any different from anybody else, and trust me, youd be very surprised by the people who use them...high paying occupations, family oriented, well-off men. not all are drug abusing punks.
I realize there are exceptions, but trying to make steroid users out to be responsible adults is a little baseless.