Junior34

I was think of winstrol its supposed to put nothing but lean muscle on....but still not sure about side effects, I hear different sides that there is or that there's not.

KCPreki11

Try this first. How long have you been seriously training?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17

BTW, there's def. sides. Your dosage will determine them.

cor

welcome tiny tots.

phile

lol, or liver damage.

KCPreki11

it's reversible, unless hes stupid.

eclipse23

Winstrol CAN kill you.

KCPreki11

anything in excess can.

3.2cl-s

Doing winstrol by itself will do absolutely nothing for you...

Bdog

If you want gains you will have to stack them. A Winstrol, Deca, Test stack will get you some large lean muscle gains, but you will eat a lot and have to watch what you eat to get rid of the toxins in you liver. Also its expensive to do it the right way, instead of just hurting your body for little gain.

RMATIC09

Sigh....I woudlent touch the shit, but to each their own.

RMATIC09

KC you a member over at BB.Com, i am, i dont go anymore though, i got alot of good info out of it, but it dosent seem to be comming up with anything new anymore, seems to be going downhill, has alot of good information though.

Doc.Booty

Unless you're thinking you'll be competing on the pro level, steroids are for pussies who don't have the dedication to gain muscle naturally.

Also, you WILL have side-effects. If you are extremely smart and careful about how you use them they can be minimized, but they are still there.

phipark

roids are for pussies...nuff said.

MRocks

Damn, why is everyone on roids nowadays? Just don't even do that and instead hit the gym really hard and eat a lot. Sure you may not ever get as big as someone on roids but it's better to work for it yourself than to resort to the lazy man's guide to getting big.

phil2

:ibtsmallpenisandimpotencecomments:

tmk70

Do you want your cock to look like Phil's? I heard he uses a peanut shell and a rubber band for a jock. :gheylaugh:

phil2

TMI

tmk70

It means "Too much information"

Adam_Schwartz

Don't take too much offense to this, but why don't you be a man and actually earn your muscle instead of jeopardize your organs and health to gain something you can gain naturally? It's like nobody is willing to put in some hard work and dedication to gain anything today - everyone wants "now" results. Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but roids is a pet peeve of mine and I have no respect for people who juice up to add muscle.

phil2

That is HELLA GAY :ghey:

DivineCL

I work out 4x a week and absolutely hate when
cheaters come to the gym all scrony, then in 3 months
their bigger than me and act as if they got their through hard work. I train hard and have got good results
from my work put in. Be a real man and do it naturally!
Besides, Winstrol and other steroids have major side affects that can scar you for life. Here is a list of some:

1. Feminine Chest
2. Pimples all over your body
3. Peanut size nuts
4. Penis equal to a 4 y/o
5. No Patience
6. "Addicting", before you know it you will rely on steroid like you rely on oxygen to live.
7. 1 Minute-man
8. You gets no credit from the "REAL" bodybuilders.


Any others that I missed, feel free to add to my list.

tmk70

phil2

mc222

True story - My roided up gym buddy tore up some ligaments and muscles in his arm after his injection site became infected - granted he wasn't too smart about things, but shit happens and its more often then you think - This was about 2 months ago...Now he had surgery to repair the tears and will be in physical therapy for months....he has lost all the water weight and is now down from 210 to 165...

Good luck though and make sure you know all the facts before deciding on whatever course works best for you

Always Dirty

Is there anyway to get roids into a specific muscle only? Like, say, if I was to shoot a small amount into my right forearm only would I be able to just make that huge? Think how cool it would be to get in a fight with somebody then stop to roll up your right sleeve and start saying things like "I didn't want to have to use this"...

Smitty

ummmm... organ failure = a nonreturnable visit with ME.....:smitty:

Bdog

I have had some friends go on a cycle or two and they had really good gains with no side affects. They jumped their weight and size up rapidly and then after they stopped the cycle they lost half of their gain (which was still alot bigger and stronger than me). There are some really nasty roids out there and there is legal stuff just as bad, its the abuse of either . If they legalized Winstrol or Deca, everyone that worked out and talked bad about it would go out and buy it because of the gains you get and they have a source to get it. If you use your head and don't abuse it some of that stuff is not that bad for your body. How many people work out 4+ times a week and rely on just chicken and tuna for their gains? I do feel alot of people are misinformed about roids. Perscriptions by a doctor can be alot worse on you that a cycle of Winstrol and no one thinks twice about the long term affects.

KCPreki11

you could get a forearm implant.

RMATIC09, please don't tell me that's how you think you spell wouldn't.

MRocks

I can't stand it either, but at my gym all the roid monsters disappear as soon as it gets a little colder out. I wont see them around for months then all of a sudden they start showing up again around March and they look even bigger than ever. Sure, like that isn't obvious.

KCPreki11

Agreed. What's worse a life of smoking and drinking (which most serious lifters don't do) or a cycle of steroids?

I can't think of any positives w/ cigarettes? At least w/ a cycle your gaining muscle.

Bdog

Yea, Gregg Valentino did.

http://www.greggvalentino.net/index....picSectionID=4

tmk70

^^That's fucking ridiculous.

rise

I thought Gregg Valentino injected a ton of synthol into his arms. I think I read injecting steroids into a specific muscle to make only that muscle grow won't work. Sure, Arnold and others did it long ago, but I remember reading an interview with an old-timer and he said they didn't know any better back then

DivineCL

That's freakin discusting! That's how your arms look like after
everyday 20x a day, for the past 20yrs. Look at the rest of his body, he doesn't have the frame of a bodybuilder but the arms of a FREAK! Ridiculous!

TLD

Don't even think about it. Steroids are a cheap way out to gaining muscle quickly, but by cheap I don't mean inexpensive. Once you're off the winstrol, you'll quickly lose anything you've gained in the way of muscle, but you can still have the damage done to your internal organs. I don't care how much people say some steroids are safer than others, it's a stupid alternative to hard training.

Bdog

Yea, it was Synthol he uses which is 85% medium-chain triglyceride oils (a fatty acid), 7.5% lidocaine (painkiller), and 7.5 5 benzyl alcohol. When my friend injected it was either in his outer thigh or ass muscle and one leg didn't get any larger than the other one. You have to inject into the mucle to be effective.

Doc.Booty

Prohormones have been shown to give almost the same results as good old steroids, and they were legal for a long time and most bodybuilders i know wouldn't touch em. They're just as bad for you as the illegal stuff.

I think someone is just now getting around to banning them, although i'm not sure.

Python2121

if i saw someone injecting shit into themselves, all i think its "heroin"

i like to draw the line at weed and alcohol for "altering substances"

mc222

You can do direct muscle injections, but it hurts like a bitch because you have to stick the needle in pretty damn deep (and accurately)

KCPreki11

Don't you always stick the needle in deep when you inject?