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Old 03-05-2018, 04:24 PM
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Clear answer on trans filter

I've looked quite a bit on this forum but as I'm new to it I can't seem to find a direct answer or know who to trust if the answer has been given (which I'm sure has) but can anyone tell me what kind of trans filter I need for a 2009 Acura TL Tech (Not the AWD model)
I'm under the current assumption it's one or two of three different types of filters (a canister filter, a paper filter inside top right of trans, or a plastic flat like filter the goes under and inside the trans pan)
Any help or links to genuine Honda parts to fit this year and sub model would be appreciated.
thanks in advance folks.
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25450-P4V-013 - I just quick search 2009 Acura TL 4 Door TECH+; KA 5AT looks like a canister ...all I can tell you
https://www.acurapartswarehouse.com/...0-p4v-013.html
Possibly the confusion could be comparing 5 speed vs 6 speed AT change. Then again, it isnt my car perhaps someone with 09 will answer.










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Originally Posted by Jordan Wetz
I've looked quite a bit on this forum but as I'm new to it I can't seem to find a direct answer or know who to trust if the answer has been given (which I'm sure has) but can anyone tell me what kind of trans filter I need for a 2009 Acura TL Tech (Not the AWD model)
I'm under the current assumption it's one or two of three different types of filters (a canister filter, a paper filter inside top right of trans, or a plastic flat like filter the goes under and inside the trans pan)
Any help or links to genuine Honda parts to fit this year and sub model would be appreciated.
thanks in advance folks.
If you go to either the Delray Acura or Bernardi Acura site and put in your VIN number, I'm guessing it'll only show you the diagram which corresponds to your car.
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It looks like the 2009-2011 TL automatics had a cartridge-style that goes into the AT housing, per the parts diagram linked above. In the 2012-2014 TL Automatics, the AT filter is now external - similar to a fuel filter on your lawn tractor (in-line to a AT fluid feed hose). I know about the latter ones because I had the TSB done on ours for the "gurgling" of the AT Filter (very strange....).

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As others have said ....
2009-2011 Filter can only be changed by removing transmission or engine/torque convertor (FWD & AWD).
2012-2014 Filter canister in-line with external hose (FWD & AWD).
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That's what I've heard but based on the schematic, it seems like it could be replaced by removing that cap, item 3. Is that not the case?

I have a 2012 so I change my externally. But if I had a 2009-2011, I'd make every effort within reason to replace it. I don't trust these transmissions any further than I can throw them.

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Yes it's very easy to change by removing item 3 but you have to remove the transmission to get to item 3.
It's located between the engine and transmission.
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Ah. That makes it a bit of a problem then. What a dumb design.
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Has anyone thought about "upgrading" the filter in the 2009-2011 transmissions by removing the internal filter and using an inline filter like the 2012+? As someone who likes to stay on top of fluid/filter changes i'd be interested in seeing how do-able that would be.
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The thing is, the internal filter should easily last the life of the transmission. Why bother changing it?
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
The thing is, the internal filter should easily last the life of the transmission. Why bother changing it?
I've torn apart some of my ATF filters and they've been pretty darn clean. Granted, I only use mine for around 15K-20K miles (yeah, probably overkill). Despite that, they're not clean enough that I'd consider never changing it. The filter on the 2012-2014 is a basic paper filter, similar to an oil filter, which also has a pass-through in the case that the filter media becomes saturated. I've also noticed that when I change my ATF and wipe down the magnetic plug, that it has a bit of material on it, which I can only assume is clutch material or metal shavings since it's obviously magnetic. I personally would be nervous never changing the filter assuming it's a basic paper filter. If it's nothing more than a mesh filter of some sort, to catch large particles, then I suppose I'd be less worried. At that point you'd essentially have to clean the fluid via changing it, and gather the small amount of material via the drain plug magnet.

If I owned a 2009-2011 I would likely install a magnaflow filter or even just an oem using the ATF cooler lines. The internal one likely has a pass-through in the case that it becomes saturated, meaning that adding an external filter would do the job nicely whether or not the internal filter was gummed up. It wouldn't be hard to do. The 2012-2014 has a bracket to hold the filter but frankly, I think the filter could just be suspended by the ATF lines. It's not heavy and if it's clamped on well it's not going to come loose.
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My bet is, unless the transmission is in the midst of a catastrophic failure, the filter will never get dirty enough to warrant a change. If it is failing (and as such, clogging the filter), then changing the filter will be a wasted effort.
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