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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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TSX vs Accord

I'm looking at these two car and wanted to know what justifies TSX $5000 more.

I was looking at Honda Accord EX Leather w/ Navi which edmunds.com gives you price of $23,997 compared to TSX w/Navi at $28990. Honda Accord EX V6 Leather w/Navi is $25,938.

Aren't these basically same cars?
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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They're similar. But the TSX has better handling characteristics, smaller dimensions, 17" wheels, HIDs, different (read as better) undercarriage, & IMO better fit/finish.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Hey Driver,

I keep asking myself the same question; not is it worth the extra money (I know it probably is ) but wouldn't the EX 5Spd be good enough? My mind changes from week to week. The problem is I drive a six year old EL and it still runs as good as new, so not a whole lot of pressure to make a move
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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Not to better looks and VSA, ..and its made in Japan!There are a few other things as well.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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I just got my TSX last week, but was also seriously considering the Accord EX-L 5speed. As long as you like the looks of the Accord (which I do actually), I think it's an incredible value - sunroof, leather, dual zone climate, a nice shifter, an overall nice interior, more than adequate performance, and obviously, great reliability. All for about $21,000 (w/o Nav).

For me, it came down to wanting something oriented a little more toward the driving enthusiast and a little more distinctive. And, the extra safety features of traction control, VSA and side curtain airbags played a role.

I think if you add up the extra features, you can justify the price difference - it's just a matter of whether those features are important to you.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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The accord + tsx are on different versions of the midsize platform. The tsx is actually slightly narrower and shorter which even though it may not seem like a lot is one reason it feels more sporty. It also has a much improved suspension and more luxurious qualities and interior. The accord v6 will run a TSX any day of the week in a straigh tline. But in turns the TSX will feel much more balanced and be able to make up a lot of time.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Over the lunch I took my wife for a test drive since it'll be her car. She test drove TSX w/ Navi and Accord EX V6 w/ Navi. Although we both liked the look of the TSX better she like the Accord better after the test drive.

We are planning on going back this weekend to do another test drive since the TSX we test drove didn't even have the plastic cover off the seats yet.

Also I'm not too impressed with Acura ( I own 2002 TL-S and it has it's share of head aches), especially their dealers.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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cool you won't go wrong either way. The looks were the turn off for me on the accord. Mechanically it's a wonderful machine..I just couldn't deal with the styling
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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I love the Accord, its a good car, especially for the money. IMO, its too big, at least for me. Its a good car if you're married and have 2 kids. Since I don't the TSX is more my style, I need 4 doors just because I occasionally have friends in the backseat and 2 doors is just a pain. (Most 2 door cars these days are ugly anyway, just my take on it)

The TSX has something that just seems better. Its a reliable Japanese interpretation of European tastes than discerning Americans appreciate.

You really have to sit in both cars and drive them to appreciate them. Either car is a good choice, you won't be disappointed.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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I always like the Accord since the 3rd gen Accord (87-89, I think). I also like the 4th gen Accord (90-93), and my favorite is the 5th gen Accord (94-97). Then the 6th gen Accord (98-02) came out, I went and test drove one. The moment I sat in the car, I felt like I was 10 years older. Then the lastest 7th gen Accord (03) came out. I didn't test drive one, but I sat in one in a Honda dealer. I felt like I was 20 years older. For some reason, the newer Accord styling just doesn't seem to fit me...and my wife.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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I do like the look of the TSX but I'm not sure I would want to pay $3000 more for it. I can get a fully loaded Honda Accord EX V6 w/ Leather & Navi for $25972 with no hassle.

My wife was driving Acura Legend so she is used to driving Acura cars but she didn't seem to be too impressed with the TSX after the test drive.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Accord is a family sedan, TSX is a sports sedan.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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My girlfriend bought her '03 Accord coupe EX 5-speed a couple months before I got my TSX. After driving and spending plenty of time in the Accord, I knew that the Accord sedan would have been a solid backup choice to the TSX. I personally like the styling of the new Accord, although I see why some find it disappointing.

A couple of things I admittedly like better about the Accord 4-cyl:
-great gas mileage, but still plenty of HP/Torque
-better center cupholders
-wider/larger front door pockets
-visor extender on the sun visor

TSX offers considerably better handling and fun/sporty factor (although stiffer ride), and several "luxury" features that have already been pointed out by others. I like the TSX colors better, and the dash is one smooth piece, rather than sections. Basically, it's the little intangibles that make the TSX better/special.

My recommendation: unless you really need the extra cash for something important, or you really need the extra room for people/cargo, get the TSX.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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The Accord is a great car! But it's no TSX
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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The difference in price is not as big as it is made out to be. The TSX actually compares in features to the Accord V6 EX. You pay a bit more for the TSX, but that is easily defrayed by the longer warranty, HIDs, VSC, and slightly nicer stereo. So, in the end, you wind up swaping the Accord's power and cushy ride for the the TSX's handling and balance. You also swap the TSX's sharp look and exclusivity for the Accord's size and space.

Now, it is true that the Accord is widely discounted, and the TSX is hard to get with much of a discount. But, that may wash out at resale time. The TSX currently has one of the highest lease residual's of any car.

I hate the way the new Accord Sedan looks, and I was sick of owning cars that everybody and his brother drove. If not for those issues, I might have opted for the Accord.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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Don't forget that a good part of the difference will be recovered at the resale. Would I pay 600-700$ a year for a TSX over an Accord? YES.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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TSX's pimp factor is much greater than that of an Accord.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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... I just got here from clubtsx and made a very similar post the other day.

Basically I was considering the accord until I drove it immediately after driving the TSX. Sure, the extra HP was "nice", but nothing to write home about. The TSX's handling, interior and quality (same honda layout, but the accord felt much cheaper) seemed much better.

When it came down to it, they would be similar price-wise, but you'd be more likely to get a deal on the accord.

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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The difference in price is not as big as it is made out to be. The TSX actually compares in features to the Accord V6 EX. You pay a bit more for the TSX, but that is easily defrayed by the longer warranty, HIDs, VSC, and slightly nicer stereo. So, in the end, you wind up swaping the Accord's power and cushy ride for the the TSX's handling and balance. You also swap the TSX's sharp look and exclusivity for the Accord's size and space.

Now, it is true that the Accord is widely discounted, and the TSX is hard to get with much of a discount. But, that may wash out at resale time. The TSX currently has one of the highest lease residual's of any car.

I hate the way the new Accord Sedan looks, and I was sick of owning cars that everybody and his brother drove. If not for those issues, I might have opted for the Accord.



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i agree with most of this but i still like the accord coupe over the tsx.


TSX's pimp factor is much greater than that of an Accord.


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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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The TSX is more pimp then the accord coupe adam... what did you expect?
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Re: TSX vs Accord

Originally posted by driver
I'm looking at these two car and wanted to know what justifies TSX $5000 more.

I was looking at Honda Accord EX Leather w/ Navi which edmunds.com gives you price of $23,997 compared to TSX w/Navi at $28990. Honda Accord EX V6 Leather w/Navi is $25,938.

Aren't these basically same cars?
Have a look at these comparison articles at the Temple of VTEC:

TSX 6MT vs Accord V6 6MT

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=113992

Accord 4 5MT

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...ticle_id=80004

The Accord 4's handling is a bit more similar to the TSX--less syrupy of a drive than the V6 Accord.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 04:06 AM
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Accord = Honda of America..
TSX ( Jap/Euro ACCORD ) = Honda of Japan..
Quality = TSX wins..
Value = Accord wins..
Design = TSX wins..
Fun Factor = NONE... sike..
TSX wins..Why? FAMILY car Vs Sports sedan..What else?
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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If they sold an an accord type-r version here i would've gotten that instead of the tsx...the regular accord v6 is too common and not sporty enough for the type of ppl that post on this site
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by dabuda2004
If they sold an an accord type-r version here i would've gotten that instead of the tsx...the regular accord v6 is too common and not sporty enough for the type of ppl that post on this site
Yea i guess a Type-S or a V6 Sedan with a manual would have changed the minds of a lot of buyers.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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all I can say is TSX TSX TSX TSX j/k.... I'm sure you got enough reasons why the TSX is better than the accord. You should maybe check out the accord forums (if there are any), to see why THEY chose the accord over the TSX.

Then ask yourself, you want a family sedan or a sports sedan?The representation and image from a TSX will never be the same as the accord, no matter what features you get with your accord. One of my biggest problems with the Honda brand (esp the accord), someone that paid about $10,000 less can say "I drive an accord" also. If you say I drive a TSX, then that's a whole different story.


Yes another biased opinion.

Good Luck!
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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all I I'm sure you got enough reasons why the TSX is better than the accord. You should maybe check out the accord forums (if there are any), to see why THEY chose the accord over the TSX.
Im betting that the accord forums are just stating its not worth the extra cash to buy the TSX. While the TSX forums will claim whats in the TSX that is worth the extra cash. At we state what the extra features are, while the accord forums will most likely say its the same accord with a different design. Or at least according to Adam who is posting on these forums the Accord coupe is the same, if not BETTER then the TSX.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Great point DjElucid
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by kenbiddulph
I love the Accord, its a good car, especially for the money. IMO, its too big, at least for me. Its a good car if you're married and have 2 kids. Since I don't the TSX is more my style, I need 4 doors just because I occasionally have friends in the backseat and 2 doors is just a pain. (Most 2 door cars these days are ugly anyway, just my take on it)

The TSX has something that just seems better. Its a reliable Japanese interpretation of European tastes than discerning Americans appreciate.

You really have to sit in both cars and drive them to appreciate them. Either car is a good choice, you won't be disappointed.
I think what the original poster is trying to say is what do you get for the extra 5000 bucks. The styling is subjective and is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't cost more to make a car with different styling. What does the TSX have in increased costs that make the price so much more than the Accord.

In my opinion, I would say that it is, aside from a few small amenities and a better warranty, the economies of scale that make the TSX more expensive. Honda makes so many more Accords that after a while the costs of making each one is greatly decreased versus a limited production vehicle like the TSX.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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I doubt it's possible to justify the TSX over the Accord financially. The Accord is roomier, the V6 is much faster, parts are probably gonna be cheaper. It's a great value.

To me, the entire difference (apart from image/exclusivity, which also has some importance to me) is in the feel of the car. Unless acceleration is all that matters to you, the TSX will bring a smile to your face when you drive it. The Accord won't.

Well, let me qualify that last statement. Knowing you got the better value could bring a smile to your face, and then the Accord is for you.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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The difference in price is not as big as it is made out to be. The TSX actually compares in features to the Accord V6 EX.
There's no reason not to also compare the 4-cylinder Accord EX with the TSX. Some features are not deciding factors for everyone, like the TSX's HID, 17" rims, grippier handling, etc. Both have the K24 engine, save the tweaks and refinement that give the TSX an edge in HP. A half-second advantage in 0-60mph isn't anything to crow about for some people.

However, for me at least, the deal killer for the '03 Accord is its ugly, odd, disjointed exterior styling. The TSX has a handsome understated styling. It looks refined and balanced except for perhaps the enormity of its slab siding. (And the smaller 16" rims on the Euro Accord and JDM Accords make the very same body style look top-heavy or out-of-balance in relation to the wheels.)
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Accord vs TSX

Both my wife and I were looking for new cars. Be drove the Mazda 6, Toyota Camry SE v-6. Then we turned to our staple cars of the last 10 years, Honda Accord. At first we were uncertain about the styling of the new 03 accord, but a fully loaded v-6 ex for 25k is hard to bet with the comfort and reliability. We then drove the TSX, which I loved so much I bought mine that day. The next day we bought the ex v-6 for her. So far both cars have been incredible. They are different cars, my tsx drives and feels like a sports car, while my wife's accord is more calm and collected. I would recommend buying the car that is most suited to your driving style and personality. My wife and I are completely satisfied with our choices.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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if you really like the Accord better than the TSX all I can say is...

pimps up ho's down.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Thank you all for your opinion. TSX is very good car. For those of you who purchased it, congratz on a great purchase. I own a TL-S and besides from few small headaches (rattles and squeeks) I've had good experience so far. Too bad that some of the Acura dealers just don't care about customer experience.

Again this was for my wife so she had the final say on which car she wanted but I could have influenced her if I felt she was making a bad decision. And to be honest I don't think she could have made bad choice on either of these.

Her 92 Legend LS was on the brink of death (150,000 miles and more problems each day) so she wanted to make the purchase quickly.

After thinking about it for few days she decided to go with the Accord EX V6 Sedan w/ Navi. The deal was for $500 over invoice but I think we got screwed on the trade in. They get their money one way or the other. She is very happy with her new car. On our way back from the dealer she was driving so fast I was getting little nervous. Car is so quiet and smooth I think she was loosing track of how fast she was going.

For those of you that are interested why she choose this, please keep in mind she doesn't know much about cars and don't care how fast a car goes from 0-60. She does like the look of the TSX but it just didn't out weigh the price and benefits she saw with Accord.

1. She likes the V6. Felt it was quieter and more smoother.
2. She thought Accord was more roomy and had more comfortable ride.
3. She felt Accord was better value for the price.

Thank you again for your help.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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does she plan to drive anyone to soccer practice? :-*

you won't catch no pimp at soccer practice.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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She didn't select Accord because of family. Mostly she'll be driving by herself since we have no kids.
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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I might be looking into the accord V6 with navigation for my wife. She thinks the same way your wife does. I talked to a salesman for acura and he said the tsx is a ladies car ?
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Old Aug 16, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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I might be looking into the accord V6 with navigation for my wife. She thinks the same way your wife does. I talked to a salesman for acura and he said the tsx is a ladies car ?
/me shivers :sqnteek:

At first thought that was what i was thinking. The RSX is a full on girl's car here in LA imo... Girls now mostly drive the sports coupes like Celicas, Eclipses, and the RSX. And the TSX is just a 4 door sedan version which means why not for girls?

The funny thing is that a lot of cars have higher girl ratios i think then the TSX. Someone claimed about 70/30 guy/girl ratio. But thinking about cars like the 3 series? Ive seen MORE girls drive it then guys here in LA. Either ways there are still more guys that drive the TSX, as all cars they match the TSX in that ratio or has more girls on it. Like the IS300, or G35 coupe. (although all the A4's ive seen were purely guys... weird)

Personally im not saying i dislike girls driving it, but yea... I don't really think its a girl's car but it doesn't help it being related to the RSX in name and form.
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a salesmen would tell you that the TSX was designed for Hassidic Jews if he thought it would get you to buy the car.
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