C32 breh, get it right cuhh

 

 

 

 

How is Bob this cool?
Bob. How are you this cool?

I think you should put your time and effort into the NSX and part ways with the 6MT Vagon for cheap. I know I'm 1000th on your list, but you know...

 

 

How many psi is the low boost pulley? Mine is rock solid on 3.5 psi, and there's even someone in Florida who runs 6psi not tuned (for years now). You'll be fine.

 

 

6 lbs is low

 

 

Good to know! Thx Diddy for some knowledge! An nsx will hopefully be in my future!

 

 

your NSX is coming a long nicely! cant wait to hear driving impression when you are boosted lol

 

 

You are a true enthusiast.
And a dork.
I guess that's redundant.
I love it, Bob...looking cool and enjoyed reading the stats!

 

Well folks, I now have forced induction, but not in the way I was expecting. Grab a beer, it's long story time!



My goal was reliable power.



As noted above, I purchased a used Comptech supercharger exactly two years ago. I knew I was going to have bad luck with it when the supercharger was lost in shipping. It had fallen out of the box. I had to track it down and because it had a unique identifying number from being rebuilt, I was finally able to locate it at a UPS lost items facility in Utah. I received the blower a week after I received the partial shipment.



After that, it sat....and sat...and sat. I took time to gather up supporting parts, including the very last Comptech targa holder and rear shock tower brace for targa ever produced before Comptech went out of business, an AEM meth/water kit, AT Motorsport phenolic plate to allow methanol to be injected after the blower, B-Line CAI, and gauges.



After everything sat for more months because of my work schedule, I finally drove to Source 1, near Cincinnati, in May 2019 for the planned install and tuning of my kit. Unfortunately, the install was not to be. It turns out that the blower had not only been damaged in the past, it had been shoddily repaired, including a bolt hole that had apparently broken off, then was (poorly) re-welded. Sure it could have been installed, but it would have leaked and would have been difficult to tune. I was advised, and I agreed, to cancel the installation. I only had the CAI installed. (Recommend! Induction should is as crazy as a turbo!) I then sold the kit, which I clearly labeled as damaged. I lost over half of what I paid for the kit. My über-rare, brand-new Comptech parts were quickly snapped up as Comptech was, and remains, closed for manufacture by the time this happened. My other parts were more slowly sold off.



I learned a valuable lesson: have expensive parts inspected by someone who knows what the f they are doing. Had I done so earlier, I would have discovered sooner that I bought a hunk of junk. I’ve never outed the seller as I genuinely don’t think he realized what he was selling. In reviewing his posts on the Prime FB group, he’d indicated difficulty with tuning with the supercharger, and was concerned about a lack of experienced NSX tuners in his area, prompting him to sell. I suspect the supercharge was damaged prior to his ownership.



So what next? I was (I hope, understandably) bummed about the situation. I looked at options including trading in my NA2 for a NC1 NSX. I nearly traded for a local 2017 with 14k miles that had been sitting at a local dealership for months, with asking price in the $120s. While mulling things over, I was making preparation to attend the 2019 NSXPO.



A couple days before NSXPO, I received a DM from Brian Urlage at Source 1, who’d helped me through the supercharger situation as noted above. He was taking his own, personal SOS twin turbo kit off his car. I had around 8k miles on it, very little mileage. He offered what was essentially a “friends and family” price on it. The SOS TT system is an excellent, turnkey, reliable kit and I could not say “yes” fast enough.



As it happens, Chris Willson, of SOS asked for a ride in my car as the group was headed off to the Air and Space Museum. I availed myself of the opportunity to discuss my situation and to ask about what would be required for my 1999 to use the SOS kit successfully. This led to his briefly test driving my car and recommending a new clutch sooner than later, and high-flow cats. My clutch has been jamming in lower gears for the last two years…and Chris’ suggestion was that the shift fork was damaged. Needless to say, after conversing with Chris, I paid Brian for his kit, and took advantage of the NSXPO discount to buy the a new SOS Sport 350 clutch and high-flow cats.



I dropped my car off at Source 1 in early November, knowing that it would be a few weeks before they could get to my car. Since the end of the driving season was nigh, I could live without my car for several months. In addition to the twin turbo install, I had the new clutch installed and other assorted maintenance done “while Ryan was in there”. I had the master and slave cylinders replaced. (Note: I had the master and slave cylinders replaced in 2019, at my local Acura dealer—not sure if parts or install were faulty, but the master was leaking at the time my car was taken apart, so the job had to be done again. It was likely adding to my shifting issues.) Install was completed, then there was trouble with the Infinity 6 that was installed. It took over a month for AEM to respond and send a new unit out. My climate control unit finally died while at Source 1. They sent my CCU to Brian Kiehnau for repair.



Once done, my car was tuned. The dyno sheet indicates “Dynojet” correction to 453 whp and 381 lb/ft. The dyno was done on a Mustang and the numbers were 411/346.



I was able to pick my car up just before Ohio shut itself down for the COVID-19 response. I am thoroughly enjoying having torque at any rpm. It is…very fast. My first serious highway pull took me to touch over 100 mph before I knew it. The Sport 350 clutch, so far, has been awesome. No chatter, all shifts smooth, no more jamming of the lower gears. Pedal effort is not onerous at all. Highway economy at 80 mph was 18, but then again, I was mashing the accelerator a lot on the 220 mile trip home. I’m still in the process of re-learning how to drive the car.

It’s a new car and I am enjoying greatly. While I still love the NC1 NSX, I can put one off for a while longer.

 

 

Madness!

No way a new NSX would compare.

 

Fuck Yeah, Bob!

 

i'm so happy for you bob... when we texted and you let me in, i was so excited for you... every one of your cars has FI now!!! :baller: when you eventually make the leap to an NC, i'll be first in line to buy this car!!!

 

Damn that's amazing! Great write up too. I'm incredibly jealous.

 

You are right. The new NSX is not chopped liver, though. I've launched one and my face damn near melted off. I believe the 2.9 s 0-60 claim. However, my car has a manual transmission, FAR superior visibility, and (frankly) looks better.



If you come through Cleveland, I'll let you drive it.

Thanks!

 

I feel like if I had taken the last few years of HS and College a bit more seriously. My life would have been better.


Killer update, Bob.

 

paging dr cockstar to the ER...

 

Congrats Bob this is awesome! Shame you had to go through all that to get to this point but you finally have boost. I was hoping to ride in the car at the East Coast meet but I can't imagine that doesn't get pushed back or cancelled till next year at this point.

Bob won't sell now he will just put an NC1 next to his NA2.

 

Your stories are already crazy enough imagining you a Dr picking on all the nurses

 

Nah, you are even cooler than I am.

I know more than a couple of docs like that. He'd fit right in with them.

As of now, it appears the east meet hasn't been cancelled, but my bet is that it will be. If so, I hope it'll be scheduled for sometime during the summer. I'll still come.

As for the NC1, it will happen, but given I just spent the cost of a good-condition AP1 S2000 on forced induction for my NSX, I'm going to enjoy my NA2 for a few years first.

PS, if I whine about not having a S2000, please smack me, the money I spent could have bought one.

 

You are the coolest, Bob...
Not just because of your cars and profession...but because you're a humble and kind guy WITH your cars and profession.

Kick ass...
You'll end up with an S2000 also, I bet...but then you'll have to turbo that to make it fun.

 

Wow, what an upgrade. That noise is phenomenal! Enjoy

 

they blocked youtube at work...
i just watched it @neuronbob
Great...now I need to boost the S2000.
Thanks a lot. I'll forward you the invoice.

 

I bought a Comptech supercharger for my S2000 while I owned it. I changed my mind prior to install, sold it, and used the proceeds as a down payment on my first CTS-V. That was ELEVEN years ago...wow...thanks for the memory...

I will leave it to more knowledgeable people than me to figure out whether turbo or SC is better for a S2000...

 

Jealousy is at an all time high. Well played.

 

I've been told by many that the sweet spot on the S2000 is to leave it alone...
but if you're gonna tempt fate, low boost turbo is the best equilibrium point between usable power and reliability.

 

S2000 is unique...too much power ruins the perfect balance...at the end of the day, I’m glad I didn’t go with FI on my S2000.

 

Yeah, I doubt you followed the saga but I sold my silver one to @theMachine and he supercharged it and ended up blowing the engine
after some hot start issues etc etc...could just be bad luck but it made me think I need to leave well enough alone.

 

Ugh so sad....I get having more power is great but some cars just need to be leave well enough alone, like you said. It's about the dynamics and handling and not just pure power. Get a different platform for big power.....

 

One can make the same argument about the NSX, and it’s a sound one. It was perfectly fine NA. It’s now better with more torque at all power levels. I’d say the power I have right now, is about the most the chassis can have and still be streetable or easily trackable. I wouldn’t want more power than this in my car as it would throw off the balance. I’m happy with it for now.

If I change my mind, though, I kept all my stock parts and go back to stock. We’ll see...

 

Bob, I thought the updates on the CTS-V were good. This absolutely kicks ass. And I second the motion about taking my studies more seriously. I should have done that as well. But no crying (except when I see someone like you with a toy, basically)

Enjoy and keep us posted.

 

I might take the plunge on low boost turbo at some point if I rant into some serious money.
Or if they keep these stimuli checks a comin

 

Just documenting a minor change. Since I brought the car home, I'd been having an occasional stumble as I was on part throttle, always at the VTEC changeover just above 5500 rpm. I sent a log to the tuner. The tuner indicated that the minimum throttle to activate VTEC was 50%. As I was mostly in the 40% range, the ECU was fueling up for presumably reaching VTEC, but since I wasn't hitting 50% throttle consistently, the fuel mix would run rich and the engine would stumble, as shown on the log I sent. He therefore adjusted the minimum throttle for VTEC activation to 25%. Instantly, all the stumble was gone and the car in general runs much more smoothly on part throttle acceleration. The current tune setup is a better match for my driving style, which is not to use full throttle on the roadway generally...I'd be in jail if I did that regularly.

Now happier that I twin-turbo'ed.

I also replaced my rear hatch shocks with cheapies from Amazon, only $46 for the pair!

It's too bad all the good NSX stuff was postponed this year...NSXPO delayed to next year, and the planned East meet also postponed to "not sure when". 2020 sucks.