LOL...Is it just me, or are the MEN in here more emotional than the women? Oh well...

That part you are referencing is true. There were a couple of chicks on my job when I was married that wanted to go out and "do things". I said no. Didn't stop them from asking, but I said no. It was not "daily", didn't think I had to explain that one. It just happened so often it appeared to be so. I don't think I am special in that regard. There are a lot of people here that have said pretty much the same thing. I can only speak about me.

As far as the "worthy" part...You (Shalooby) must find life's pleasures where you can I guess. I permit you to find it in hecklng me. Everytime you people post about ME in a thread that has nothing to do with ME - I win! After all, it seems to provide your life with a boost. Hey, at least you have company now...

And Joe...I'm just shaking my head dawg...lol...

 

Take it to PM guys. One more post outside of discussing Joe's predicament gets deleted.

 

Shhh, I think Joe and Darksom are about to hook up....

 

wtf when did the commissioner of relationships initiate this rule???

FUCK!

 

I'm glad you still got it in you Joe...




edit: i don't mean with darksom1... but with the ladies...

 

She did say, intimate time....so i guess its like phone sex or text sex?


man...does each woman have their own set of rules? cuz damn...some women would describe wat joerockt did as innoncent flirtation if they (certain women) were in his shoes....

and just to throw it out there.....

"Silly rabbit! Tricks are for kids!"

 

Na, you'll always be my bitch, wsklar...

 

maybe your wife will be open to a 3-some.

darksom your a newb.

 

Intimacy does not equal sex. It's a close sharing, whether it be of thoughts, gestures or bodily fluids.

 

 

Time to go have that talk with the wife... I you luck... that'll really test your "game"...

 

Welcome to being 30something and married. There are temptations everywhere, but seeking them out and seeing how far they can go is pretty pathetic. I see guys all the time who want to flirt, push the envelope, then act all proud when the don't actually have sex. The whole thing is about showing themselves and others that they "still have it" (ie. the purpose of this thread). Meanwhile, if you get that reputation around your office, people will write you off as a loser. I know plenty of people at my office like that...

Either you are with your wife or you aren't. If you aren't, then separate and have as much fun as you want. If you are with her, then be a man and have a little discipline. If you have any self-confidence at all, you won't need constant affirmation.

 

>>> Enter the moral police

If this was a serious question and you're interested in a serious answer, here goes. I've been married for 18 years and yes, it's nice to know now and again that someone out there finds me attractive - what guy doesn't? And yes, a few made sure I knew they found me attractive. No real harm in that basic idea. What causes the harm is what you do about it.

I'm concerned about two things. One is you said the main reason you're passing on this opportunity is that you work with her. I'm wondering why the main reason you're passing is that you love you wife and you'd never hurt her like that. Not judging you on this, just an observation as I was reading what you wrote.

Second is this is a slipery slope as I'm sure you know. Playful text messages become innocent meetings after work, which become more frequent, which become more playful, which become a drunken good time, which becomes half your stuff driving down the road in a U-Haul.

My is to be careful about how far you'd take this if she didn't work with you, and where that puts your marriage.

 

As I was trying to advise Joe, before he got overly sensitive about it, women have a broader scope than most men when it comes to cheating. Just by the responses here in this thread alone, you can see that. The average dude, not in the know, assumes cheating is restricted to sexual intercourse.

Everybody keeps talking about morals, and not passing judgement. But if you are crazy enough to post this on the web, on a forum no less, then you open yourself to public scrutiny. And yes, maybe even by some guys who have done the same thing (cheated or thought of it). So to get sensitive when someone calls you on it is not being realistic about what to expect once you go "public".

Personally, I think this thread started as Joe trying to gauge whether or not he was "in there" enough with a female so he could decide whether to pursue hitting it if the crowd said "thumbs up"! Now that people have heaped the morals on him, he is back-pedaling. What do you expect? As one guy said, nobody is going to say "do it" and everyone then jumps on him with the moral stick!

As for gauging "if you still have it", someone winking or giving you attention is enough to let you know that. You don't have to go on dates, pass sweet nothings or have sex to punctuate it.

This may be Joe's thread, but this is for every guy out there who thinks of it. One other thing...Like a jury in a courtroom, it doesn't matter if "we" did it before, because we ain't on trial. And if I did do it, I wouldn't be stupid enough to post it in a forum in front of God and everybody.

Like I always say...this shit ain't for everybody! Certainly not the "average Joe"!

 

Run. Run like you've never run before and DONT LOOK BACK.
I smell trouble.

 

playful text messaging, innocent meetings, single (crazy?) lady....this is playing out to be a 21st century rendition of Fatal Attraction....

 

Just hypocritical douche bags like yourself?

 

so do you plan on meeting with her?

 

Tsk tsk...more emotional outburst from you. LOL at you constantly feeling the need to tell me how you feel about me, because you can't handle my point in the thread. You do know what hypocritical means right? Which post of mine here or, hell in any other thread, contradicts what I said? Got a real answer, or just another "emotional" one?

 

Nope, only emotional ones, douche bag...

 

with 1louder and mockenrue...

be careful joerockt.

 

IB Darksoms 3 paragraph post about not caring what users think about him yet still writes 3 paragraphs responses always... plus IBTL

 

darksom does it best:

 

^

 

See...now that was actually funny!

 

Darksom, I'd suggest you stop posting in here since Joe neither wants to hear nor cares what you think of the situation.

Joe, quit the personal attacks and get back on topic. This is one of the more interesting thread we've had in D&R in some time so it'd be a shame to see it closed.

 

Responding to what someone says is not the same as caring. It's a forum. But, I get that you guys have told yourselves this elementary tactic so much it is gospel. LOL! Yes, I remember you. You are still part of my fan club. You are not forgotten.

 

You are in there dude!!!??? I personally wouldn't go any further though... Keep it as business only and nothing more with her...

How would you go about putting out the flame though, now that she wants to take it out of the office??? Ignore??? Apologize and explain???

 

It's a trap!

In seriousness, don't start a relationship with this woman unless you tell your wife and invite her out with you.

You don't need extra head aches.

 

joe, how would you feel if the tables were turned and your wife entertained the thought of cheating on you?

 

Cheating starts from casual flirtation. It seems harmless right now, but it builds up intimacy that can overtake with what you have with your wife. If your marriage is really important to you, you won't do anything that might put it on the rocks.

 

Never ever never dip your pen into company ink....

Trust me on that.

 

See, that's the thing, I don't know her that well, so I don't know what her motivations are, besides the obvious stuff. So I don't know what would happen after. But in my last experience, we both just carried on like nothing ever happened. Mature adults can do these things.

See, this is why I posted this. I'm realizing more and more what a horrible idea this is. And while darksom makes some good points as well, he puts in a way that makes him sound like a complete jerk. Hell, he's making me want to do it just to spite him lol. If he talks with his friends that way...well...Who wants to be friends with an egomaniac?

Anyway, at this point, I can't just close the door on her...She's a fun person to hang out with. My wife has fun people to hang out with too. I don't care. But if it gets to the point where she wants to take it further, I'll just have to have a talk...

BTW, is eating cheating? Just wondering...

 

But I have, and nothing bad ever came from it

 

personally, i think it depends on the dynamics of the relationship.

in this case, yes.

as said before, casual settings such as having lunch can easily lead to something more and then more, etc.

 

Interesting hypothetical. At this point, I have no reason to suspect she ever would, but if she did, I'm sure she would have her reasons. I know its hard for you guys to understand my motivations because I wont talk about them, so its a piece of the puzzle you're missing...

 

Makes me think of the show Cheaters a bit. Its pretty obvious that anyone of us would get upset if we saw our SO on camera with someone else even just having a few drinks together, sitting closely, and touching hands or whatever. But how often does this happen where you're actually caught on tape? Most of these people are carrying on full relationships outside of the one they're already committed to. Of course they're going to get caught eventually. And you can tell that some of them even WANT to be caught just so that it can finally be talked about in the open. Strange but true.

I'm not trying to justify the fact that you wouldn't get caught. But I would bet money that even some people on here have SO's that have cheated on them, but they would never, nor will ever know about it. Call it getting away with it, call it pathetic, but it is what it is...

 

It eventually will catch up to you.

Rumors spread quickly around an office.

 

If you see the woman just as a friend, then no. But if you are attracted to her and you feel she also likes you, and your intentions are beyond getting to know her as a friend, then I would consider that a date and therefore a form of cheating.

 

jerry jerry.......


i mean