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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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like over at CL, why do girls break us?

So, heres a long read.

Let's see where to begin.

Last year, as a senior in HS, me and a friend (the one i planned on moving into an apartment with), both were interested in a prospective female. He sort of beat me to it, and they got into a relationship.

I heard rumors, that she "liked me" , etc, i thought nothing of it, never talked to her, ever. MY friend made her block me, and i knew it, but i didnt really care. So about 8 months later, these past 2 weeks, she magically unblocks me, and we begin to talk.

Keep in mind, i decided not to get an apt with this kid, not because of the girl, but becuase the kid is psychotic. He has serious issues, especially with females. He expects them to marry him, and he "loves" them after a week, and stalks them, etc.

So me and the girl are flirting, she tells me how much she likes me, always has, so we hang out. Keep in mind, we kissed, but nothing serious at all, and the kid, who goes to college at BU, which i woudlent consider a good friend, just a chill buddy, is going uterrly insane.

He gives her the guilt trip (she showed me all the convos), saying that shell regret it in 15 years ( :wtf: ) , how no one will ever love her like he did, blah blah .

So after a few days, of us talking, and her "liking me", she tells me shes gonna give him another chance.

So i tell her what she was doing to me was wrong, and that' it's not right to go and drag someone around like , and then just pull a U-turn. Keep in mind, i know she was on the "rebound", and i was still convinced this would happen.

So later that night, she tells me it's "offically over", and we continue to talk. So the kid then is on his way home from college, and i tell myself "ok, things are going to get fucked up as soon as hes home", and i was right. (also side note, he threated to "kill her", "break every bone in her body", "destory her family financially", and hes just utterly pathetic, crying, acting like he has no purpose in life anymore).

Im the smart guy, i tell her the best advice, do what you feel is right, do what you want to do, that wil lmake you happy. Dont d o somthing that will make him happy, and not you. Shes convinced it's what she wants.

So the next day, there back together again, and this is after we talk and all of that. I almost feel like im a moron for getting connected at first because i knew it was going to happen, but i just did it anyways. I guess im just looking for someone to settle down with, and i sort of "jumped the gun". Im just really angry, at myself, at her, at the guy (aside from the fact that he talked shit to her about me), especially how she would just tell me all this shit, and then 20 minutes later just do a total u-turn.

Just venting i suppose, but im never gonna look at the guy in the same way again, i cant give respect where it's not given, and with the girl, i took them all of my buddy list.

sorry for the long read.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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sorry to hear it didnt work out for you

most of the time girls dont know what they want. i've heard stories of girls getting beat up by their bf but they keep going back...

female mind =
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Wow...that sucks...

I think both of these people aren't good for you. And this girl definitely isn't right for you if she can't cut the cord with this lunatic. You're better off without them.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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Wow...that sucks...

I think both of these people aren't good for you. And this girl definitely isn't right for you if she can't cut the cord with this lunatic. You're better off without them.

Look for better friends.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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ya thanks for the replies guy, i appreciate it.

And i tried my best not to "steal" her, i said "dont do something because of me, make these choices for YOURSELF, what YOU think is best for YOU". Im not the type of guy to ruin relationships, and i told her i dont want to have any guilt, but o well, guess it dosent even matter at this point.

Thanks again.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Sounds like you didn't lose anything but time. At least now you'll be prepared for when you're in this situation again.

Edit: Oh... and to answer the question in the thread title: because they can.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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and because all females above 12 are all crazy, emotional-basket-cases.
and because guys are hard-wired from Adams time to worship tits & pussies.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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UPDATE

today girl comes online, says "ron, we need to talk when bob (for privacy sake), leaves, monday night.

Im like "no, you talk to me tonight, or never again"

So in all this confusion, im flipping out, really venting, boy it felt good.

My friend calls me, asking the truth, about what me and the girl did. She never stops lying to him, she obviously lies to me alot too.

So i talked to him, i told him everything, now i feel like a dick doing that to him , and her, i explained myself, but hes happy i told him the truth. This girl is fucked up, and she still made this subtle hint she wanted to be with me.

But i say, fuck that, im not made for this drama.

Rmatic who is feeling alot alot better after venting.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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just poke her in the pooper once and be done with it













heck...bring a funnel and some eels while you're at it...
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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She's playing mind games. Just stay away from her, you'll be better off.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US




heck...bring a funnel and some eels while you're at it...



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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
you need the rest of my post to give it the full effect
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
you need the rest of my post to give it the full effect
I dont know, im keen on eels, and only eels.


here i go! !

Rmatic who is glad acurazine makes him feel better.


Thank you PW team. Thank you.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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sheesh. if you can find a girl who knows what she wants in life - keep her, they're rare.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Ok, update again.

After i vented, the girl and i didnt talk for 2 days. Then she comes online asking me if im willing basically to try with her again.

I said this to her "pretend i didnt exist, would u wanna get back with the kid"

She said No.

Im like in 3 weeks, well see where things are.

Next morning, she leaves me a message saying "i hope we can be friends, i cant hav eu in my life like that anymore, it wont work"

Im like "umm :wtf: ", w/e, so we dont talk untill today.

Shes flirty , then later on , her away message, has the kid back in her profile again!

So much drama! I wish i didnt care though, but i do. Oh well....
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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sounds like she doesn't know what she wants... I'd drop her like yesterday's
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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oh... you need to drop this psycho game player. This broad is in love with creating drama and that's it. Seriously, just cut yourself off from this psycho as soon as possible. Trust me on this. You don't want to be friends with a broad like this. EVER.

... but before you stop talking to her, ask her if she's willing to do the anal eel thing with a friend of hers... after she says no, then you can stop talking to her. Or if she does it, post the video on the internet and then stop talking to her.

Seriously, though, just stop talking to her completely. Tell her you dont' want to be her friend, and let that be the end of it.

Junkster, who doesn't want to bring up THE greatest psycho chick that he's ever met... ooh, I can do that for storytime this week.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Oh, and I think Snoop Dog's new single is definitely tellin you what to do...

Drop it like it's hawt...

Junkster, who has the radio on at work
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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...in the vein of Snoop: find a new bizzle, my nizzle.


But first, let her powder your nizzut sizzle.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Aiight let me see if I am getting this right. All the talking you are doing with this female is "online". Do you ever talk to her on the phone? I mean obviously you have seen her since you have kissed but do you ever communicate with people in the real? A computer is how some people protect themselves. They hide at thier desk and can say and do what ever they want. Its sad. You need to let that chic go man. Seriously its just more stress, drama, heartache with her around. There are more women in the world than men. Find you a few that are just down to hang out. Don't try to settle down...your YOUNG have fun. Don't commit...play the game for what it is. And honesty is the key to keeping your shit straight. Don't ever lie to a woman, just don't tell her what she doesn't need to know. But if she asks the right questions answer then. Let her know your seeing other females and she will have no reason to trip. Once you get this down....you will be unstoppable. Women will know you are seeing someone but as long as you are real with them....most of them want the same thing we do. Company, great sex, no drama, and fun. You can have it all without a commitment. Get your game tight and do the dayam thang!
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Ya , we were talking on the phone for a good amnt of time, but alls done now, i can do better, her loss not mine.

thanks
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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You are to young to be looking for a serious g/f. Drop that girl or at least try to get in her pants. Your College years should consist of banging random chicks.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGspot
You are to young to be looking for a serious g/f. Drop that girl or at least try to get in her pants. Your College years should consist of banging random chicks.



im at home for the rest of this year, i dont move till the city till summer/fall semester of next year, sooo i dont have a great supply of random bisshes.

O well, ill manage. thanks
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkster

Junkster, who doesn't want to bring up THE greatest psycho chick that he's ever met... ooh, I can do that for storytime this week.

rmatic wants to hear.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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oh... you need to drop this psycho game player. This broad is in love with creating drama and that's it. Seriously, just cut yourself off from this psycho as soon as possible. Trust me on this. You don't want to be friends with a broad like this. EVER.

... but before you stop talking to her, ask her if she's willing to do the anal eel thing with a friend of hers... after she says no, then you can stop talking to her. Or if she does it, post the video on the internet and then stop talking to her.

Seriously, though, just stop talking to her completely. Tell her you dont' want to be her friend, and let that be the end of it.

Junkster, who doesn't want to bring up THE greatest psycho chick that he's ever met... ooh, I can do that for storytime this week.


this broad is definitely a drama queen...drop it like its hawt....
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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also RMATIC09, is this chick even worth it?

You are a so money, you don't even know it...

plenty of other ladies, i say dont waste you time with this one...
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Lol, so money, never heard that one, but thanks.

Yea, plenty of other fish in the sea, thanks guys appreciate it.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Lol, so money, never heard that one, but thanks.
rent the movie Swingers and you will see where that line came from
great movie...
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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The girl sounds like a drama queen at best, and a manipulator at worst. Your friend, based on the commentary you provide, is obsessional. His language is just short of that of a stalker, veering between begging and threatening. He wants the girl as a trophy, and cannot handle a real relationship.

I'd stay away from this dude, whatever your friendship was it aint now. His behavior with women is probably not specific to this girl, but to every woman who interests him. Somewhere that behavior will move to being dramatically unpleasant, and it would be best to be nowhere near the splash range.

The girl probably needs to stay away from him as well, but that is her issue and it's not your responsibility to save her. She may wish to play damsel in distress, but the best way to get out of a rotten relationship is not to immediately fill the void with a new one. If she really feels threatened by this guy, then she needs to seek help from institutional and organizational resources that will keep this guy at bay. If she's gameplaying, it's a fiery game.

and I'd stay away from the girl, if only because the situation can triangulate (in fact, she seems to be trying to make it triangulated out of a sense of pleasure at being courted by two dudes at a time), and being in a triangulated relationship with an obsessional verbally violent dude and a drama queen doesn't leave you much space to stand on, in my humble opinion. She ain't the one to share a life with, with that kind of vacillating game playing. Cut it clean, cut your losses, learn a lesson or two and move on.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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wow dude great advice, appreicate it!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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wow dude great advice, appreicate it!
hate to tell ya how I learned this.....................
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hate to tell ya how I learned this.....................

all ears if you wanna give it a shot.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RMATIC09
all ears if you wanna give it a shot.
lived with a woman for about two years, parted ways nicely enough, we did the "just friends"schtick, then she started dating a guy who had been a mutual friend. She then dumped him and we started dating 'to see if it would work again" (famous last words and stupid me, but we had had a good history and I thought, well, maybe ......), then he started stalking her, then me. Late night pleading phonecalls, latenight threatening phonecalls, then following her, going to where she worked and begging her to come back to him in front of her workers, sending her flowers all of the time, threatening to kill himself, threatening to kill me, then parking in front o fher house and stalking her, and sometimes me. Turned out she wanted to date me to get him all hot and bothered without realising that he was obsessive and it backfired. Two injunctions, one for her, and one for me, to keep this guy from stalking either one of us. I got pissed with the whole thing, called her on her shit and walked. Eventually, the guy got tired of dealing with me, but I think he kept on trying to connect with her about a year later by phone. Somehow get her unlisted number and shit, get things delivered to her house or work, strange shit. Some of it was nice stuff, the freaky stuff were decapitated dolls.

The thing that got me thinking about your situation was that this guy goes from begging to threatening and back and forth - real obsessional expression of naked need that has nothing to do with love, or affection. Really distorted. At the scale that he is at, probably harmless enough, but real annoying. But sometimes these guys turn into real assholes and become attached to really fucking up some lives.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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wow, quite a story. Thats crazy.

Yea the girl showed me what she wrote (who knows what she did to provoke it, but the kid has a history)

he put her on the biggest guiltt rip, called her non stop, called her mom, saying he was "worried about her"....all this bullshit.

O well, im done with that crap, time to party !
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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O well, im done with that crap, time to party !
sounds like a plan to me
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O well, im done with that crap, time to party !
What were you doing before.....
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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What were you doing before.....

huh? I meant, im moving on, no point in wasting my time, the party thing is just kind of the cliche statement i suppose?

damn you wsklar.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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huh? I meant, im moving on, no point in wasting my time, the party thing is just kind of the cliche statement i suppose?

damn you wsklar.
So you will still put furniture in the streets?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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So you will still put furniture in the streets?

oh no, that dosent constitute "partying"

.That constitues being bored and high.

And to answer the question, yes, yes we will.
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Hey, this is the same shit I am in now...
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