Still, had he been aborted you would never have come to know and love him so this feeling wouldn't be possible. Good for you though I'm glad it worked out well

 

And isn't he lucky that he did come to know and love him? Wouldn't MOST aborted children end up being loved by someone? Friends, family, spouse. Is it fair to assume otherwise in all cases?

Your reasoning is that it is OK to kill a baby if we don't know them as a person yet. This way, we don't know what we are missing. If I kill a baby 1 minute after birth, does the situation change? How about 1 hour? 1 day? By your logic we would be justified in putting all homeless people to sleep. As long as they don't feel it, and no one will miss them, then it is justified.

 

That's not really what I meant at all. I was saying that he would never be able to shed that tear had his son been aborted, which seems like I'm just stating the obvious now that I think about it. I didn't say anything about justifying an abortion.

And yes, I think he is lucky that he has a family that he loves and cares for - that's why I said "I'm glad it worked out well"

 

You know....the thing about your situation is that you MANNED UP. You took care of your responsibility and it made you into the person you probably are. Good for you. I would like to think I would have done the same.

Most people at that age with that much going on and are immature don't feel the same and won't respond the same way.

 

I've followed this thread pretty much all the way through and I don't think we ever touched on the situation where the female would have major problems if her parents found out she was pregnant. Of course, most parents aren't too thrilled when their young daughters encounter an unplanned pregnancy, but some become (more) abusive when they find out their little girl is (gasp) sexually active. Prohibiting abortion or requiring parental approval would jeapordize both the female's life along with any chance at having a health child.

 

I cannot support an abortion that occurs because a girl doesn't want to get yelled at by mommy and daddy. And we live in a age where if your parents are going to beat you (especially while pregnant) you can do something about it.

 

That doesn't do any good when anything you do will be after the fact.

 

What doesn't do any good?

 

The parent(s) getting in trouble with the law AFTER beating the hell out of the pregnant child.

 

Yea, but that's always the case until time machines are invented or pre-cognitive crimes come into existance a la Minority Report

 

It's not exactly simple though...

 

Never said it was...

 

It seemed implied.

Anyway, I agree with moeronn, I don't think parents should have to know. Of course this is coming from a teenagers perspective. I'm sure most parents out there would want the opposite.

 

<--- A Catholic Freshman in a Catholic High School


you would guess i am pro-life
i am

however, that is open to speculation. Since i am raised catholic, my thoughts are to preserve life. Our society is based heavly on apperence, what other people think of us and sex. Because i am catholic, again, sex was intended for those in a bond of marriage. Today, sex has become an everyday event, even for those who do not know each other. Because of today's society however, every situation is different. Rape, forced sex and numerous problems based on sex arise every day.

Being catholic, i believe "God" gave us this power to create another being. Who are we to take that away.

Being scientific, i believe that abortion is still a way of destroying/killing a being. Who are we to take a life - better, who are we to say what that person's life might be. "If" is a word that is very vague. However, each life is still important.

Most situations i would be pro-life, however, we still all are humans, humans make mistakes. Each mistake is different.

 

So, um, do you think we should be celibate?

 

Let's see if you feel the same way in a couple years.

 

I've never met a 14 year old with those thoughts on sex, ever.


I take that back...there was a kid who was a Jehovah's Witness in my grade back in highschool. He used to say that "masturbation is the handshake of the devil."

 

I am pro-choice!! I think the choice should be the mothers since she is the one carrying the fetish.

I dont think i will say to much more, this looks to be a very heated discussion

 

I'm surprised this thread is still going.

 

I'm surprised that it's still going and no one got banned because of it.

 

What merits a ban anyway?

 

 

 

that question.

 

I'm interested to see what else Acuraluvr has to say because he's obviously not the typical 14 year old.

 

Freudian slip perhaps?

 

damn i've been so busy lately with my job.

Speaking of abortions if anyone needs one, I just got my laundry back from the cleaners.

 

i call dibs.

 

i had an abortion and then used the coathanger to break into a car to steal a head unit to pay for the counseling.

seriously though, every situation is different. i can see an indian girl getting killed by her parents if she was found to be pregnant, as does happen... so in some cases, it may be in a girl's best interest. but as for less severe cases, it's not my place to say either way because i am so not getting knocked up anytime soon.

 

Oddly enough I'm turned on by this remark

 

That's something we havne't really discussed at all - cultures that wouldn't accept it. Some terrible shit happens in some countries and in those cases abortion might very well be the best option.

 

That's what they all say....

Just keep on poppin' those pills.

 

^^


Condoms are no fun

 

Sometimes it's better for all parties if there is no child. Where I grew up it's not very common. I know it happens, but the norm is that if a woman gets pregnant, 9 months later there is a crying baby.

 

Honestly, I wouldn't know since I've never EVER used one. I've only slept with one person, and I'm the only person they've slept with... so I'm pretty goddamn spoiled in that department, but I'll take your word for it.

 

Yeah just be careful bout the pills and such; they need to be taken properly in order to be as effective as possible.

 

Don't get me started on them. They made the mistake once of waking me up while hungover at 8:00 AM on a Saturday morning. We didn't talk long...

 

hahaha...I saw this video once of some college kids who were woken up much like you (though I don't think it was Jehovah's Witnesses, some other religious group though). They got a bunch of water balloons and water guns and soaked them. It was hilarious because the two people trying to convert them started cursing and tried to attack them.

 

Yeah, like I get laid anymore.