MSZ

As Doom878 suggested, our own GT4 time trial:

Round 1 rules:

CAR : SL65 completely stock(S2 tires), oil change is not allowed. Feel free to use the driving aids(ASM/TCS)
TRACK : Hong Kong(normal)

The winner has the rights to set-up the next round.

Round 1 ends on next Saturday 12:00(noon) eastern time.

Doom878

Can I do this in arcade because my SL65 is fully modded. I don't think I can unequp all the mods. That goes for anyone else with a modded 65.

thatguy

this should be fun. but yeah, you mean first lap? or any amount of running laps. either way, I am in.

MSZ

Yes, arcade mode is allowed.

MSZ

Multi entries and any amount of laps.

Have fun.

MSZ

First entry:

1'29.112

Doom878

1'31.355

You're psycho if you like this track. Plus I hate stock Benzes.

Doom878

1'30.755 for now.

thatguy

1'31.589 for now.

MSZ

1'29.068 for now.

srika

why are we racing Hong Kong again?

MSZ

Beat my lap time and then you decide what track is next.

srika

hah

srika

^^ I think I'll try it later 2nite

Doom878

Again? This is effective from yesterday until next Saturday. Enjoy.

Mizouse

i dont have my ps2 with me

srika

ok.... best I could muster so far is 1:32.286. Now, that is a 100% clean lap. You did not mention anything about hitting walls and such in your description of the race. Discuss.

and, S2 tires = Sports, Medium, correct?

Having raced this track about 15 laps and only getting 1:32, I personally don't feel I can shave 3 seconds off that, without hitting walls. Maybe a second or maybe two if I'm real lucky..... but not 3. Am I missing something? I'm running the stock SL65 in arcade mode, ASM & TCS on...

srika

ok I managed a 1:31.994 ....... but damn I don't feel much more here...

MSZ

I had driving aids on, manual instead of automatic, and it was a perfect lap as well...

Um, no it wasn't quite perfect yet. I think I can shave another half seond off.

Doom878

I know I can shave off more time but I'm too sick of this track. A couple of places where I shaved mad time off:

First right. A very difficult near U turn. If I slow down too late I eat the wall. Try 2nd gear turn but avoid the wall.

The next right is not really a turn but the one after that you can take in 3rd but you have to slow down, I seem to be better off nailing the wall. If I slow down it's too slow.

The first left where you will eat the wall is key to not go too fast. Another trap similar to the first right.

The right before the long straight always determines my time. Hit it in 2nd and try to just get the most speed through it. The key is finding the perfect angle.

The U-turn after the straight. God I hate these kinds of turns. I sometimes slow myself down but rubbing on the wall on the right side since stock brakes suck. Probably start breaking 150ft before the turn. Do a perfect U with no wall bumps.

The last S turn before the finish is very tricky. Gotta find the angle so that when you go left you don't eat that corner. I haven't figured it out yet. I sometimes go down to 1st if I hit it too quick and just not upshift until after the S or leave it in 2nd. All depends on where my RPMs are at.

srika

so you guys are hitting walls??? sorry but I just don't think that should be allowed...

Doom878

That's the only one I did. Besides, how will you know if the winner hits them or not?

srika

I guess you're right. Well shit, this changes everything. I will be back with my new and improved time later tonight!!!



In all seriousness. Online Racing has almost a cult following and interest now at the various racing sites. Many of the boards have setup "standards" by which races must be raced, rules to be followed, etc. Two wheels must always be on the designated course at all times (meaning it's ok to kinda go in the grass, but one side of wheels should remain on the road - so these aren't necessarily super strict rules) - however hitting walls is not allowed, period. And you're right, there's no way to tell if someone hasn't hit walls to achieve a time. What they usually say is, if a time is too good to be true, they need to supply a video of the run. That is pretty much it, the way to prove a clean lap. And, if you run a lap and post your time online, people are taking your word that you have abided by these rules and standards in achieving that lap. If you have knowingly gone through and hit walls to take turns faster thus resulting in a faster time, you're cheating. Plain and straight.

But let's think about this. What if I revisit Hong Kong tonight, and hit all the walls - the gentle sweeper after turn 1, where the SL has a strong tendency to understeer if you are going to fast into it, as gentle as it is - yeah I'm just gonna go full throttle, not let off at all. There's a wall to stop me, not like I'm gonna fly off into the ocean. That tricky hairpin at the end of the middle straight? Yeah I'm just gonna go careening into it at full throttle. Let the walls whip me around and through. What satisfaction can I get out of doing that? Where is the challenge there? The answer is, there isn't any challenge. It becomes a contest of who can run the sloppiest, fastest lap. Think about this - what if we were racing in real life? Could you just bounce off a wall because you're able to take that turn much faster? The answer is obvious.

There are sites that dictate Online Racing (OLR) rules - I will find some and post them later. But I don't know if it's really worth it, you guys don't seem to care what kind of lap you run.

I don't mean to be so... I don't know, I don't know what the word is... about this... but I just have to say, if hitting walls is OK in these contests, then I know I am not going to be competitive with my times, because it's just not in my driving style to hit walls - I don't get anything out of doing that. It does nothing for me.

srika

Doom878

Do you mean ANAL???

Actually I rarely use walls to "cheat". But you're right as they're several courses where going through grass or off walls helps. Last S turn in Trial Mountain ring any bells. Let's just use the KISS method. Keep It Simple Stupid.

srika

I was going to use the word anal but I don't really see how it's being anal. It's being realistic. It's racing realistically. In any case, I'll have a new time for y'allz tonight.

rise

1'29.055

30th lap

Doom878

30th lap as in attempt? You guys can have this one.

srika

no doubt... I raced about 15 laps and that was enough for me... I'm throwing in the towel on this one.

Mizouse

yea i do the same thing on fuji speedway 90's you know the small chichane before the curve into the highspeed section i just cut throu the grass slamming on the brakes to slow myself down to about 80-90mph for the curve (also depends on tires and how fast the car can take that curve), cuts off an easy ~6 seconds

AS3.0CL

1:30.123

after about 10 laps and some experimenting with the ASm ansd TCS. i was doing this in arcade mode and i only had on the TCS. i fell like i could shave a second off of that time or more. i was in that position until i really screwed up on corner. oh well i'll try tonight to see if i get anything.

MSZ

rise

can I choose a new challenge now?

Trial Mountain
Scion XB
Tires: ECONOMY

GO!

MSZ

Not until Saturday.(read post #1)

We all have lifes you know.

AS3.0CL

not if i have anything to say about it. i'm determined to beet that time. and btw i'm using the wheel. i'm going to try like hell to beat that time, actually i'm going to try right now.

AS3.0CL

1:28.525 on lap 20 of the 30

that i did in the last hour from my last post. i hope u guys can match this or beat it. i did it with the wheel and with only TCS. when i have more time and when this almost comes to an end i'll tell u how i took the corners. good luck.

Doom878

The younger the better at the game.

bkknight369

how are you verifying the times? maybe if ppl take pics of the screen with the lap time?

Doom878

I doubt anyone would lie here. Maybe on a GT4 forum but this is just AZ. I'm not gonna kill myself if I don't get the best time.

srika

omg I just ran 1:14.892 !!!! it was an amazing lap... I had a screenshot of it but I deleted it by mistake.

How did I take the turns, you ask??? The answer is... very quickly!!!!! ridiculous!!!!

MSZ

Oh its fast, did you get that at Autumn Ring Mini? LOL