My XBOX 360 died died died
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My XBOX 360 died died died
So I'm playing rainbow with a bunch of idiots online. You know the type, not taking the game serious and running around like morons talking about stupid shit.
I'm bitching the entire time telling them to stfu and play and because the game is becomming very choppy. Of course I think its lag and not my xbox dying.
Anyway, it finally freezes. I power cycle it and get the red-semi-circle of death. I google the problem and see that it means hardware death. Microsoft is going to fix it for free. Total turn around time of 10 business days.
How will I spend my free time for the next two weeks?!?!!?!?!?!??!!!
I'm bitching the entire time telling them to stfu and play and because the game is becomming very choppy. Of course I think its lag and not my xbox dying.
Anyway, it finally freezes. I power cycle it and get the red-semi-circle of death. I google the problem and see that it means hardware death. Microsoft is going to fix it for free. Total turn around time of 10 business days.
How will I spend my free time for the next two weeks?!?!!?!?!?!??!!!
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Well that sucks. when was it manufactured, was it one of the very first ones out? I currently have a 360 that was bought in November it's working well, my brother and I share it, but come summer. I'll be buying the updated 360 with digital outputs (HDMI).
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Buy a new one from Best Buy or some other store and return the broken one. This will only work if you have the box of the original 360 b/c the serial on the console and box have to match.
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Originally Posted by llJrockll
Well that sucks. when was it manufactured, was it one of the very first ones out? I currently have a 360 that was bought in November it's working well, my brother and I share it, but come summer. I'll be buying the updated 360 with digital outputs (HDMI).
I have my eye on that as well... however, even though there are reports and rumors circling the web, Microsoft is still denying this is being released this year.
Originally Posted by llJrockll
Does Best Buy or Circuit city take back open items? I thought for
console, computers...you can't.
console, computers...you can't.
I happen to have a Best Buy receipt in front of me, and only opened video games are listed under exceptions... and they will be exchanged for the same game. Everything else can be returned... although Consoles may fall under the 14-day policy and not the 30-day policy... so if you do it... do it within a few days.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Buy a new one from Best Buy or some other store and return the broken one. This will only work if you have the box of the original 360 b/c the serial on the console and box have to match.
I was going to do the same thing with my ipod, but got yelled at for fraud....
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Get some air and wait 2 weeks....And yes, returning a broken one is not nice and with serial numbers pretty easily tracable...
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I had the same problem, called the xbox support # and they had an automated line that tried to walk me thru some stuff that I could do to hopely reset it. when it didn't work I got transferred to a rep. she sent me a box and it took about 2.5 weeks.
I had a problem with the original xbox. Bought a new from Wal Mart, swapped the serial # stickers on the consoles and returned it. The lady didnt even ask why I returned it, she just scanned the serial # and gave me my money back but on the 1st system there was a hole in the box that they scanned the serial # right off the console
I had a problem with the original xbox. Bought a new from Wal Mart, swapped the serial # stickers on the consoles and returned it. The lady didnt even ask why I returned it, she just scanned the serial # and gave me my money back but on the 1st system there was a hole in the box that they scanned the serial # right off the console
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Mine died last week too, it sucks. They want 140 to fix it and I don't care enough about it to do it. I returned my PS3 this week at walmart so I don't want them to get scared if I buy a 360 and return it right away. It doesn't help to know some of my friends parents work there.
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
Isnt that Fraud?
I was going to do the same thing with my ipod, but got yelled at for fraud....
I was going to do the same thing with my ipod, but got yelled at for fraud....
I know I personally would rather have a newer X360 then to have the broken one fixed. I've read about people having them fixed multiple times. So why bother with that? Just get a new one and take the defective one out of your hands in one shot. It's not something I would do more then once and probably would give MS a shot to fix it the first time... but not something I would completely rule out if you keep getting screwed with a broken machine.
Originally Posted by mr5parkle
bestbuy has a stocking fee. walmart doesn't
I have a BestBuy receipt right in front of me... the policy mentions nothing about a restocking fee except on laptops, projectors, camcorders, digital cameras, radar detectors, GPS/Navigation systems, and in-car video systems. It also says if they are defective, then there is no restocking fee.
So aside from the fact that it doesn't even mention video games or game systems, if it's a defective return, there's no fee regardless...
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
technically you're not doing anything illegal.
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
actually, i'd wager it's definitely illegal.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Why should be be forced to buy a second console b/c Microsoft can't make a working system?
Let me say, that I am not taking the moral high ground here since I did the same thing once before with a PS1. But I was 19, broke, and dumb.
That being said, would you apply your logic to anything else you buy?
Stores have a stated return policy, if you return a different item than you bought you are committing fraud.
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Let me say, that I am not taking the moral high ground here since I did the same thing once before with a PS1. But I was 19, broke, and dumb.
That being said, would you apply your logic to anything else you buy?
Stores have a stated return policy, if you return a different item than you bought you are committing fraud.
That being said, would you apply your logic to anything else you buy?
Stores have a stated return policy, if you return a different item than you bought you are committing fraud.
In fact, a couple of times I have purchased a game on eBay (go figure ) but it was scratched or didn't play for some reason, and I have gone to the local GameStop, explained that to them and asked if I could swap it out for a new and working one, and they have done it. They typically open the new one so it can't be returned as new... but they have done that for me. Best Buy did it for me once as well... and on a game that I scratched b/c I moved the system, but did not buy from them.
So if stores are willing to do that when they KNOW the item was not purchased from their store, then buying an item and returning the same exact item containing all of the correct parts (except the defective console) in a box where the console and box serial numbers match cannot be illegal.
Immoral? Yes, but that's subjective. Illegal, I'm leaning towards no.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
It has been done by many, many others, including myself, at several different stores regarding a variety of products (though never a big ticket item like this... well, except for once, but it wasn't defective).
In fact, a couple of times I have purchased a game on eBay (go figure ) but it was scratched or didn't play for some reason, and I have gone to the local GameStop, explained that to them and asked if I could swap it out for a new and working one, and they have done it. They typically open the new one so it can't be returned as new... but they have done that for me. Best Buy did it for me once as well... and on a game that I scratched b/c I moved the system, but did not buy from them.
So if stores are willing to do that when they KNOW the item was not purchased from their store, then buying an item and returning the same exact item containing all of the correct parts (except the defective console) in a box where the console and box serial numbers match cannot be illegal.
Immoral? Yes, but that's subjective. Illegal, I'm leaning towards no.
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In fact, a couple of times I have purchased a game on eBay (go figure ) but it was scratched or didn't play for some reason, and I have gone to the local GameStop, explained that to them and asked if I could swap it out for a new and working one, and they have done it. They typically open the new one so it can't be returned as new... but they have done that for me. Best Buy did it for me once as well... and on a game that I scratched b/c I moved the system, but did not buy from them.
So if stores are willing to do that when they KNOW the item was not purchased from their store, then buying an item and returning the same exact item containing all of the correct parts (except the defective console) in a box where the console and box serial numbers match cannot be illegal.
Immoral? Yes, but that's subjective. Illegal, I'm leaning towards no.
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To each his own.
But you are a fairly rich guy, I don't know why you would need to repeatedly take advantage of the system.
If I broke/scratched something, why should I take advantage of a store and make them take a hit for my mistake?
Even though stores may sometimes be lenient on their polices, I don't think you need to continually take advantage of it, just suck it up
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good grief Jr, listen to yourself.
it's fraud no matter how you look at it. I can't beleive you, the new small business owner can't see this for what it is
it's fraud no matter how you look at it. I can't beleive you, the new small business owner can't see this for what it is
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Originally Posted by Silver™
To each his own.
But you are a fairly rich guy, I don't know why you would need to repeatedly take advantage of the system.
If I broke/scratched something, why should I take advantage of a store and make them take a hit for my mistake?
Even though stores may sometimes be lenient on their polices, I don't think you need to continually take advantage of it, just suck it up
But you are a fairly rich guy, I don't know why you would need to repeatedly take advantage of the system.
If I broke/scratched something, why should I take advantage of a store and make them take a hit for my mistake?
Even though stores may sometimes be lenient on their polices, I don't think you need to continually take advantage of it, just suck it up
I've had them say no also and had to re-purchase games. I'm a good customer at GameStop and Best Buy and have spent quite a bit of money at each locale, especially Best Buy. So, because of that, they go out of their way for me... and that kind of service is why I keep going back and spending money there. When they say I cannot return something... I just repurchase it if I really still want it. Not seeing the big deal here...
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
good grief Jr, listen to yourself.
it's fraud no matter how you look at it. I can't beleive you, the new small business owner can't see this for what it is
it's fraud no matter how you look at it. I can't beleive you, the new small business owner can't see this for what it is
I can see both sides of things as well. From the consumer standpoint they don't feel like they should be hassled, so they do this to take the easy way out, but from the reseller standpoint, they are accepting defective merchandise that technically they should not be responsible for.
So my only point in continuing to reply was just to say that I do not think it's illegal. I wouldn't do it, I'm not recommending it be done, but just saying that people do it and I'm not sure that it is illegal. Even if it is it is very difficult to prove. That's all. When my 360 breaks (b/c I'm sure it will), I will do the same thing luda is and have MS fix it through the channels that they offer.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
I've had them say no also and had to re-purchase games. I'm a good customer at GameStop and Best Buy and have spent quite a bit of money at each locale, especially Best Buy. So, because of that, they go out of their way for me... and that kind of service is why I keep going back and spending money there. When they say I cannot return something... I just repurchase it if I really still want it. Not seeing the big deal here...
So when you go to Best Buy or GameStop, you then make them aware that you purchased it from somewhere else and/or damaged it yourself and/or are outside of their normal return policy? Because if they then knowingly take it back since you are such a good customer that is one thing, but if you (as you seem to have implied) do not make them aware that is shady.
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Originally Posted by Silver™
So when you go to Best Buy or GameStop, you then make them aware that you purchased it from somewhere else and/or damaged it yourself and/or are outside of their normal return policy? Because if they then knowingly take it back since you are such a good customer that is one thing, but if you (as you seem to have implied) do not make them aware that is shady.
Originally Posted by juniorbean
In fact, a couple of times I have purchased a game on eBay (go figure ) but it was scratched or didn't play for some reason, and I have gone to the local GameStop, explained that to them and asked if I could swap it out for a new and working one, and they have done it. They typically open the new one so it can't be returned as new... but they have done that for me. Best Buy did it for me once as well... and on a game that I scratched b/c I moved the system, but did not buy from them.
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Originally Posted by Silver™
You weren't clear on what you said to them, but hey, if they knowingly agree to take a hit, that is there problem.
So yeah, it's their problem... although all they do is return it to the distributor and get credit for it... so it really doesn't hurt them in any way, and they can look like the good guy by taking care of me.
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Yeah. When I said "I explained that to them" I meant that I explained it was purchased off of eBay and had a problem and they agreed to swap it out for me anyway.
So yeah, it's their problem... although all they do is return it to the distributor and get credit for it... so it really doesn't hurt them in any way, and they can look like the good guy by taking care of me.
So yeah, it's their problem... although all they do is return it to the distributor and get credit for it... so it really doesn't hurt them in any way, and they can look like the good guy by taking care of me.
That and your initial post made it confusing...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...32&postcount=2
But hey, next time my daughter scratches one of my games, I'll send it to you so you can work your magic
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Originally Posted by Silver™
That and your initial post made it confusing...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...32&postcount=2
But hey, next time my daughter scratches one of my games, I'll send it to you so you can work your magic
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...32&postcount=2
But hey, next time my daughter scratches one of my games, I'll send it to you so you can work your magic
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
As mentioned above, I'm not seeing the big deal. I've never done it on a level like this... I only posted the suggestion as a possibility. I used to work retail at Babbage's many, many years ago... well before it became GameStop, and people did this all of the time. But, they had their receipt, and the item they were returning was the item listed on the receipt, so we had no way to prove they swapped out a defective one to get around the return policies and we had to do the transaction.
I can see both sides of things as well. From the consumer standpoint they don't feel like they should be hassled, so they do this to take the easy way out, but from the reseller standpoint, they are accepting defective merchandise that technically they should not be responsible for.
So my only point in continuing to reply was just to say that I do not think it's illegal. I wouldn't do it, I'm not recommending it be done, but just saying that people do it and I'm not sure that it is illegal. Even if it is it is very difficult to prove. That's all. When my 360 breaks (b/c I'm sure it will), I will do the same thing luda is and have MS fix it through the channels that they offer.
I can see both sides of things as well. From the consumer standpoint they don't feel like they should be hassled, so they do this to take the easy way out, but from the reseller standpoint, they are accepting defective merchandise that technically they should not be responsible for.
So my only point in continuing to reply was just to say that I do not think it's illegal. I wouldn't do it, I'm not recommending it be done, but just saying that people do it and I'm not sure that it is illegal. Even if it is it is very difficult to prove. That's all. When my 360 breaks (b/c I'm sure it will), I will do the same thing luda is and have MS fix it through the channels that they offer.