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Oh, I have plenty of points to actually evolve a few graydos. Actually I could evolve a whole crapload of critters. But I don't. And the only reason I don't is because, again, it drives my wife batty! She has seriously threatened to just take my phone and evolve things because I refuse to do it.
That's married life boys! Sometimes you just act like a dick over the little things because it's the only control you have in your life.
help me.
That's married life boys! Sometimes you just act like a dick over the little things because it's the only control you have in your life.
help me.
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I've got a couple of general questions for you guys regarding Magikarp.
1) What's the highest cp Magikarp you have caught or hatched?
2) Which makes more sense, powering up a Magikarp to max stats then evolving to gyrados or evolve to gyrados and power up that.
Im still a ways off of having the required candies but because of the time involved to collect said candies, I want to make sure I maximize my result.
1) What's the highest cp Magikarp you have caught or hatched?
2) Which makes more sense, powering up a Magikarp to max stats then evolving to gyrados or evolve to gyrados and power up that.
Im still a ways off of having the required candies but because of the time involved to collect said candies, I want to make sure I maximize my result.
1) I actually just hatched one today.. was 140 CP. The highest one I've caught in the wild was a few days ago.. 162 CP.
2) Makes no difference whatsoever, costs same stardust and candies to evolve whether magikarp or gyarados. But I would definitely NOT power up until after you've evolved. That way, if it has shit moves (twister) you don't have to bother wasting more candies to power it up.
2) Makes no difference whatsoever, costs same stardust and candies to evolve whether magikarp or gyarados. But I would definitely NOT power up until after you've evolved. That way, if it has shit moves (twister) you don't have to bother wasting more candies to power it up.
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What level are you lmj? There's a level 33 guy in my town who I swear has at least 3 gyrados that are 2400+ cp. I think that would require a Magikarp that was roughly 200 cp to start with.
I've got a couple of general questions for you guys regarding Magikarp.
1) What's the highest cp Magikarp you have caught or hatched?
2) Which makes more sense, powering up a Magikarp to max stats then evolving to gyrados or evolve to gyrados and power up that.
Im still a ways off of having the required candies but because of the time involved to collect said candies, I want to make sure I maximize my result.
1) What's the highest cp Magikarp you have caught or hatched?
2) Which makes more sense, powering up a Magikarp to max stats then evolving to gyrados or evolve to gyrados and power up that.
Im still a ways off of having the required candies but because of the time involved to collect said candies, I want to make sure I maximize my result.
2) I've heard it doesn't make a difference either way.
Obviously, it's best to evolve the one with the highest CP because then you will have a higher CP gyarados but magikarp cp doesn't go up much per level and when you get to where I am where you have to get 200k fucking xp to level up, fuck that shit. I'm not waiting to find a 200 cp one.
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On #2, lmj said the same thing but raised the excellent point to power up after evolution and its final attack stats are known. No need to waste candies and stardust until you know 100% what you are powering.
Good to know on the high cp ones. I'm still collecting candies so I've got plenty of time, now I know to hold out for at least a 200cp to evolve.
On #2, lmj said the same thing but raised the excellent point to power up after evolution and its final attack stats are known. No need to waste candies and stardust until you know 100% what you are powering.
On #2, lmj said the same thing but raised the excellent point to power up after evolution and its final attack stats are known. No need to waste candies and stardust until you know 100% what you are powering.
I am a level 29, and at that level I found my 200. It's semicircle is almost maxed out (not sure what the official term is for the semicircle above the Pokemon).What I don't understand is the difference between IV and CP? How can CP be almost maxed out but the IV is crap? Does anyone understand this?
Last edited by Curious3GTL; Sep 14, 2016 at 08:29 PM.
IV == Individual Values.
You need to use that https://pokeassistant.com/ link posted earlier to plug in the CP/HP/Candies for your critters. It'll crank through and tell you how "good" it is, in terms of how much "percent perfect" it would be after powering up. I believe it also tells you "percent perfect" for the evolved and powered up forms too.
Doing the calculations will tell you if it's worth while keeping a critter or smashing it up for nose candy. E.g. it wouldn't be worth evolving a 40% perfect thing because it would max out at 800CP whereas a 90% perfect thing may reach 2000CP.
From the site:
You need to use that https://pokeassistant.com/ link posted earlier to plug in the CP/HP/Candies for your critters. It'll crank through and tell you how "good" it is, in terms of how much "percent perfect" it would be after powering up. I believe it also tells you "percent perfect" for the evolved and powered up forms too.
Doing the calculations will tell you if it's worth while keeping a critter or smashing it up for nose candy. E.g. it wouldn't be worth evolving a 40% perfect thing because it would max out at 800CP whereas a 90% perfect thing may reach 2000CP.
From the site:
Each type of Pokemon has a base set of attributes for Stamina, Attack and Defence. Each specific Pokemon is "born" with it's own IV (individual values), that further increase these stats by 0-15 extra points. You can not change the IV's, not all Pokemon are born equal.
These IV's make small differences in the final power of a Pokemon. For example, the base attributes of a Charizard are 212, 182, 156. This would be the "worst" charizard available where all IV's are zero. With max IV's, a Charizard would have 227, 197, 171. Each of these Atk, Def and Stam values for Charizard are only 7-10% better.
Nonetheless, if having the absolute best Pokemon is critical to you, this tool wll help you find the hidden IV values that your Pokemon has so you can decide to keep it or try for something better. Absolute perfection isn't just having the best IV's, the "perfect" Pokemon would have both maximum IVs AND the best Moveset possible. Note that your Pokemon's maximum level is governed by your trainer level. To level yourself up faster, and therefore gain access to leveling up your Pokemon further, check out XP Batching.
This tool uses the two following formulas and the inputs you provide about your Pokemon to attempt to identify its IVs:
HP = (Base Stam + Stam IV) * Lvl(CPScalar)
CP = (Base Atk + Atk IV) * (Base Def + Def IV)^0.5 * (Base Stam + Stam IV)^0.5 * Lvl(CPScalar)^2 / 10
These IV's make small differences in the final power of a Pokemon. For example, the base attributes of a Charizard are 212, 182, 156. This would be the "worst" charizard available where all IV's are zero. With max IV's, a Charizard would have 227, 197, 171. Each of these Atk, Def and Stam values for Charizard are only 7-10% better.
Nonetheless, if having the absolute best Pokemon is critical to you, this tool wll help you find the hidden IV values that your Pokemon has so you can decide to keep it or try for something better. Absolute perfection isn't just having the best IV's, the "perfect" Pokemon would have both maximum IVs AND the best Moveset possible. Note that your Pokemon's maximum level is governed by your trainer level. To level yourself up faster, and therefore gain access to leveling up your Pokemon further, check out XP Batching.
This tool uses the two following formulas and the inputs you provide about your Pokemon to attempt to identify its IVs:
HP = (Base Stam + Stam IV) * Lvl(CPScalar)
CP = (Base Atk + Atk IV) * (Base Def + Def IV)^0.5 * (Base Stam + Stam IV)^0.5 * Lvl(CPScalar)^2 / 10
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Gotcha.
I think some of it has to do with the cp:hp ratio. I have a few critters where my highest cp has less hp than a critter with inferior cp. I'm assuming this would be the main factor. I'm not sure on defense, however, I have read that the attacks randomize during evolution and there isn't a direct connection between what you had and what you get.
I think some of it has to do with the cp:hp ratio. I have a few critters where my highest cp has less hp than a critter with inferior cp. I'm assuming this would be the main factor. I'm not sure on defense, however, I have read that the attacks randomize during evolution and there isn't a direct connection between what you had and what you get.
I've heard that about the random attacks as well. That's why you want to evolve and then power-up. Because no sense in powering up a shitty attack, so evolve first to see what you get and make the decision then.
But I'm just repeating what I've heard. Like I said, I haven't evolved or powered anything (except for one round of pigeon crushing).
But I'm just repeating what I've heard. Like I said, I haven't evolved or powered anything (except for one round of pigeon crushing).
Ya attacks are randomized during every evolution. So best to wait and see what you get before powering it up.
You could have a 40% iv magikarp that gets an awesome moveset and a 90% iv magikarp that gets a shitty moveset. Both my gyarados came from 91% iv magikarp. My first one got a shitty moveset so I turned it into candy. Luckily my second one got a good moveset so I powered that one up afterwards.
You could have a 40% iv magikarp that gets an awesome moveset and a 90% iv magikarp that gets a shitty moveset. Both my gyarados came from 91% iv magikarp. My first one got a shitty moveset so I turned it into candy. Luckily my second one got a good moveset so I powered that one up afterwards.
Last edited by imj0257; Sep 15, 2016 at 07:11 AM.
What throws me off is I have a Vapereon that's 100% at 1689, but my Vaporeon at 2126 is at 82%. So if I am reading this correctly it's just that the 2126 Vapereon is at 82% of what it could be of that level? Where as my 100% is already maxed out for his level?
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Ya attacks are randomized during every evolution. So best to wait and see what you get before powering it up.
You could have a 40% iv magikarp that gets an awesome moveset and a 90% iv magikarp that gets a shitty moveset. Both my gyarados came from 91% iv magikarp. My first one got a shitty moveset so I turned it into candy. Luckily my second one got a good moveset so I powered that one up afterwards.
You could have a 40% iv magikarp that gets an awesome moveset and a 90% iv magikarp that gets a shitty moveset. Both my gyarados came from 91% iv magikarp. My first one got a shitty moveset so I turned it into candy. Luckily my second one got a good moveset so I powered that one up afterwards.
The problem is that my leveling up strategy includes catching every pidgey and weedle I can for future evolution while using a lucky egg. This means I need to have roughly 50-60 of these garbage pokemon as well as the required candies before I start evolving so I can be evolving constantly during the lucky egg time. To me this seems like the real secret of leveling up, it's not catching new stuff, it's not taking over gyms, the trick is not losing sight of how useful the extremely common pokemon are and how to make the best use of lucky eggs. Last night I picked up about 60,000 exp in a half hour by evolving a ton of weedles, a ton of pidgeys as well as my first seadra and nodoqueen (2000 exp each 500x2 for evolution and 500x2 for a new pokemon). Do the math, find 600 more pokemon to level up or spend a half hour evolving cheap crappy pokemon, one's much quicker and more effective. Once the time was up, I kept the top few pigeottos and kakunas from the evolution and transfered the rest to pick up more candies for the next mass evolution.
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ok im done, wasted so much poke coin, lures, incense and poke balls trying to catch that Europe Pokemon.
All i caught were friggin pidgeys, zubats, ratatatattaata, spearow and weedles. Same shit as home

Going to Portland/Seattle tomorrow for a week, can't wait to see if and what totally different pokemon they have up there. Maybe will help me fill my pokedex. Currently at 111, should be 112 later tonight when I get 1 more candy for walking Cubone and can evolve him.
Also hatched a few more 10k eggs. I'd say overall, 1/3 of them have been Scyther, 1/3 Eevee, 1/3 a bunch others but still no Snorlax, Aerodactyl, Lapras
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I have blizzard with mine, I don't really like it. I think because it's glitchy or something because when I do the attack, the damage shows up MUCH later after the ice from the blizzard shatters. There were times where my lapras did its attack, but fainted before the damage showed up. If that makes any sense
So just got back from the Pacific Northwest. Some things I noticed... much more pokemon diversity in the cities vs suburbs. And pokestops at every corner.
Caught a lot of things I never see here.. Shellder, Drowzee, Cubone, Jigglypuff, Clefairy. Hatched some 10k eggs from up there... Onyx, Onyx, Onyx
. Seattle definitely has tons of Drowzees. They seem like Rattatas where I am. I still saw a few pidgeys in the big cities but much less compared to at home.
I started my trip with 112 in my pokedex and now have 126. So yay for that.
Caught a lot of things I never see here.. Shellder, Drowzee, Cubone, Jigglypuff, Clefairy. Hatched some 10k eggs from up there... Onyx, Onyx, Onyx
. Seattle definitely has tons of Drowzees. They seem like Rattatas where I am. I still saw a few pidgeys in the big cities but much less compared to at home.I started my trip with 112 in my pokedex and now have 126. So yay for that.
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Random but was just waiting around Disneyland (on the Midway Mania game/ride) and this bad boy decided to pop up...
Random but was just waiting around Disneyland (on the Midway Mania game/ride) and this bad boy decided to pop up...






