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Old 12-03-2006, 04:24 PM
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Z06 Vs Gallardo High Speed Runs

Hope this isnt a repost, if it is, then whatever. I'm sure some havent seen it yet.
http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...86002bafb4.htm
Old 12-03-2006, 04:37 PM
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Damn I cant believe how strong the top end is on those Z06's. Kind of knew the outcome though assuming they were both stock.
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wow that z06 is no joke!
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The Z06 driver was slow getting the jump on each run but it still pulled really nicely up high.
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Very impressive, Z06 is really something else.
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Zo6 kept pulling!
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Z06 is the best bang for your buck period. That thing is so damn fast for what you pay for. But that Gallardo is sexy and sounds bad ass.
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The Z06 has an East Coast Supercharging license plate border, so I wonder if it's all stock? ECS is a Corvette performance shop in NJ. I would think it'll be a close race, but the Vette seemed to pull a little a little too hard against the Gallardo.
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And there's this. For what you would pay for a Gallardo, you could buy two Z06's and still have enough left over for a nice "other" car.

Personally, I'd take the Z06 over the Gallardo, too. It's better in a whole lot of ways. Also, I strongly suspect that the big cube small block is putting out a bit more than 505 HP and 485 lb/ft of torque. I mean, this car in box stock condition with just slicks has run a 10.85 and that was with not so good of a launch or shifts. Had such been better, I believe a 10.60 would have been the case. In a 3132 pound with a rather high 3.42 rear (quite high for drag racing), mid-ten second ET's would seem to point to somewhere around 600 HP.

Anyway you look at it, the Z06 is a winner.
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Originally Posted by Bdog
The Z06 has an East Coast Supercharging license plate border, so I wonder if it's all stock? ECS is a Corvette performance shop in NJ. I would think it'll be a close race, but the Vette seemed to pull a little a little too hard against the Gallardo.
I dont think it was modded, since there are other vids of the Z06 walking Gallardo's. And if that Z had headers, exhaust, tune, it would have killed the Gallardo by far more than that. Tuning alone is giving these cars like 30 more whp. Its nuts. People have seen up 60 horses with basic bolt ons and tune. Shit, cam/bolt-ons/tune Z's are making 100+ horses. The car is sick and can be made fast with little money. The setup above will cost around $2500.
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Originally Posted by Bdog
The Z06 has an East Coast Supercharging license plate border, so I wonder if it's all stock? ECS is a Corvette performance shop in NJ. I would think it'll be a close race, but the Vette seemed to pull a little a little too hard against the Gallardo.
The Z06 is definitely faster than the Gallardo in high speed runs where there is traction (RWD vs AWD of the Gallardo) and where the torque of the LS7 really shines.

In the video they show the engine bay of the Z06 and it is definitely stock.

If it was SC, it would pull much harder than the Z06 in the video.
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You know its a good car if TOP GEAR likes it as they did.
But I would take the Lambo becasue it is so sexy.

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so i guess the gallardo is just for looks...
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Z06 is the best bang for buck super car out there. And it doesnt take much more mone to really up the HP. Plus maint costs arent a arm and a leg like the Italian and German counterparts
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Personally, I'd take the Z06 over the Gallardo
If price were not an issue?
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
so i guess the gallardo is just for looks...

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sweet - way to put the gallardo where it belongs.. at the back of the line. damn pos
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
If price were not an issue?
Yes sir, even if price were not an issue. Call it personal preference. In the looks department, the Z06 has it all over the Gallardo (yes, I know.. very subjective, but then again, visual appeal nearly always is). I think the exhaust note of an American V8 is far more appealing than just about any European engine (once again, subjective). And finally, the maintenance factor. While anyone who buys a $180,000 car can surely, or certainly should surely, afford to maintain it properly, the 'Vette is so much better in this department.

I just don't see where the Gallardo has anything over the Z06 accept price. But I have to reiterate the fact that this is largely subjective.
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
I just don't see where the Gallardo has anything over the Z06 accept price. But I have to reiterate the fact that this is largely subjective.
How about the fact that it's a super-exotic Lamborghini and the Vette is just a run-of-the-mill, dime a dozen, cheaply made, Chevy?
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Originally Posted by daemonicus
How about the fact that it's a super-exotic Lamborghini and the Vette is just a run-of-the-mill, dime a dozen, cheaply made, Chevy?

the z06 is dime a dozen?
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Originally Posted by daemonicus
How about the fact that it's a super-exotic Lamborghini and the Vette is just a run-of-the-mill, dime a dozen, cheaply made, Chevy?
First of all, the Z06 is not a dime a dozen, and secondly

Hell, I see way more Gallardo's around my area (Westchester & NYC) than new Z06's.

Lastly, in regards to reliability, I'd much rather take the so called "Chevy" than a Gallardo.
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Originally Posted by stangg172004
so i guess the gallardo is just for looks...
I won't say that but zo6 is just faster car!!
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Originally Posted by daemonicus
How about the fact that it's a super-exotic Lamborghini and the Vette is just a run-of-the-mill, dime a dozen, cheaply made, Chevy?
As I said, my comments were strictly subjective and I stand by them for the simple reason that they are mine. I would most definitely select the Z06 over the Gallardo.

If I were of a wont to own an exotic car, my choice would be the Ford GT. And once more, this is totally subjective.
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Am I the only one that thinks the Ferrari 599GTB is one of the most beautiful Ferrari's to come out of the factory in some time (including better looking than the Enzo and F430)?
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
First of all, the Z06 is not a dime a dozen, and secondly

Hell, I see way more Gallardo's around my area (Westchester & NYC) than new Z06's.

Lastly, in regards to reliability, I'd much rather take the so called "Chevy" than a Gallardo.
I meant the Vette is a dime a dozen. And honestly, if a Z06 pulled up next to me, unless it had the Z06 label on the side, I'd just think it was a regular C6. Besides the engine, it's cosmetically the same car.



A Vette is a Vette. It's pretty damn powerful but nothing exotic or special. I see them and say "damn that's a nice car" but if a Gallardo pulled up next to me, I'd sure as hell make my passenger check that out before I had them look a Vette that you can pretty much see all over (unless you live in Westchester apparently).

Now I've never owned a Vette so I cant vouche for the reliability, and I've never owned a Lamborghini so I cant speak for that either but I can say that GM makes some pretty unreliable cars out there and that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Too many friends have broken cars due to the fact that they think America makes reliable cars even though they cost significantly less than a foreign car. That statement might not matter to you but maybe this will. Yes, Lamborghini isn't on the list and I'm not saying it'd be better than Chevy or worse than them, this is just to represent Chevy.
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Originally Posted by daemonicus
I meant the Vette is a dime a dozen. And honestly, if a Z06 pulled up next to me, unless it had the Z06 label on the side, I'd just think it was a regular C6. Besides the engine, it's cosmetically the same car.



A Vette is a Vette. It's pretty damn powerful but nothing exotic or special. I see them and say "damn that's a nice car" but if a Gallardo pulled up next to me, I'd sure as hell make my passenger check that out before I had them look a Vette that you can pretty much see all over (unless you live in Westchester apparently).

Now I've never owned a Vette so I cant vouche for the reliability, and I've never owned a Lamborghini so I cant speak for that either but I can say that GM makes some pretty unreliable cars out there and that's not an opinion, it's a fact. Too many friends have broken cars due to the fact that they think America makes reliable cars even though they cost significantly less than a foreign car. That statement might not matter to you but maybe this will. Yes, Lamborghini isn't on the list and I'm not saying it'd be better than Chevy or worse than them, this is just to represent Chevy.
Yes, the Z06 and regular C6 look very similar, but I can easily tell the difference as can most other auto enthusiasts. This is all subjective such as SouthernBoy stated as well, but personally I get more excited about the Z06 right now. The Murcielago is another story though.

In regards to reliability, you pulled the JD power Initial Quality study, not the dependability study which is much more telling for overall reliability:


As you can see, Chevrolet is well above the average, as are a few other GM nameplates such as Buick and Cadillac which are even above Acura, Honda and Toyota.

Lamborghini is owned by VW and uses many components from Audi, and look where VW and Audi place in regards to reliability compared to Chevrolet.
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Am I the only one that thinks the Ferrari 599GTB is one of the most beautiful Ferrari's to come out of the factory in some time (including better looking than the Enzo and F430)?

No, I'm right with you.
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let's just agree to diasgree and also that lexus is the best.
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let's just agree to diasgree and also that lexus is the best.
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let's just agree to diasgree and also that lexus is the best.
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
Z06 is the best bang for your buck period. That thing is so damn fast for what you pay for. But that Gallardo is sexy and sounds bad ass.
Yup. I agree. If I am going for look, I would choose Gallardo... that car is more appealling.

Not sure how these two vehicles handle on curvy road though.
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Yup. I agree. If I am going for look, I would choose Gallardo... that car is more appealling.

Not sure how these two vehicles handle on curvy road though.
The Z06 is a better handling car. It may be more difficult to drive at the limit, but its limits are higher.

Here are the Top Gear lap times for a reference:

1 Koenigsegg CCX (with TG spoiler) 1.17.6
2 Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4
3 Maserati MC12 1.18.9
4 Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0
5 Ariel Atom 1.19.5
6 Porsche Carrera GT 1.19.8
7 Koenigsegg CCX 1.20.4
8 Ascari KZ1 1.20.7
9 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1.20.9
10 Ford GT 1.21.9
11 Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3
12 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
13 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1.22.4
14 Lamborghini Murcielago 1.23.7
15 Pagani Zonda 1.23.8
16 Noble M15 1.23.9
17 Koenigsegg 1.23.9
18 Prodrive P2 1.24.3
19 TVR Sagaris 1.24.6
20 TVR Tuscan 1.24.8
21 Mitsubishi Evo FQ 400 1.24.8
22 Noble 1.25.0
23 Lotus Exige S 1.25.1
24 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1.25.7
25 Lamborghini Gallardo 1.25.8
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is it really better handling or does it just have more power to make up for those 3 seconds in the straightaways? even though the Stig is always the driver, power can make a huge difference in lap times and the Vette is clearly more powerful.
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is it really better handling or does it just have more power to make up for those 3 seconds in the straightaways? even though the Stig is always the driver, power can make a huge difference in lap times and the Vette is clearly more powerful.
The Z06 pulls over 1.0g lateral grip (between 1.01 and 1.05g) in every test I have seen.

The Gallardo pulls 1.0g or slightly under. In addition, the Gallardo is close to 500lbs heavier than the Z06.

The Z06 has a higher handling limit and is significatly faster around the track than the Gallardo. The thing the Gallardo has over the Z06 is more stable handling due to AWD.

The Murcielago is a better competition for the Z06 at the track IMO.

The Z06 was faster than the F430 and new 911 Turbo in a recent C&D article as well:

On paper, the Z06 Corvette is the best car here. It accelerates as quickly as the 911 Turbo through the quarter and wastes both the Porsche and Ferrari at speeds above 120 mph. How about 0 to 150 mph in 17.7 seconds? That’s up there in Ford GT territory, if not as stupid fast as a McLaren F1. The Z06 has the most grip at 1.01 g and the best braking performance. On an autobahn, it was still accelerating while the Ferrari was topped out in sixth gear at 186 mph. Around our road course, it was an easy victor, 1.7 seconds quicker than the Porsche on a near-76-second lap. It does all this for about a third of the Ferrari’s price. The Z06 is the best performance value in the world, period.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...vette-z06.html
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
The Z06 pulls over 1.0g lateral grip (between 1.01 and 1.05g) in every test I have seen.

The Gallardo pulls 1.0g or slightly under. In addition, the Gallardo is close to 500lbs heavier than the Z06.

The Z06 has a higher handling limit and is significatly faster around the track than the Gallardo. The thing the Gallardo has over the Z06 is more stable handling due to AWD.

The Murcielago is a better competition for the Z06 at the track IMO.

The Z06 was faster than the F430 and new 911 Turbo in a recent C&D article as well:



http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...vette-z06.html
I think it depends on a track. I remember R&T found the Z06 to be slower than the Gallardo on another track in Europe (can't remember the name offhand). I think the results will vary from track to track, but anything with a few long straights will surely favor the Z06.

Great car
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...The Z06 was faster than the F430 and new 911 Turbo in a recent C&D article as well...
heh, ya but dont forget who came in last place in that test. of course, as they stated, coming in third is still pretty good, just not as good as a ferrari.
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
First of all, the Z06 is not a dime a dozen, and secondly

Hell, I see way more Gallardo's around my area (Westchester & NYC) than new Z06's.

Lastly, in regards to reliability, I'd much rather take the so called "Chevy" than a Gallardo.

with your whole post.

The Vette just goes to show that when GM has their act together, they can hit a homerun; the Z06 is probably not quite a grand slam but is at least a two run shot. C6 Z06 >>> Gallardo.
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Gentlemen;

In essence, we are all talking about some pretty fabulous machines here. I submit that if cost was not a consideration, it's anyones guess as to what one would pick for the ideal toy. And you can bet that in a year or two, this could easily change with new offerings and models dropped.

It's no different with mid-sized sedans. TLs, G35s, BMWs, Audis, CTS-V Cadillacs, etc... everyone's going to have a preference and opinions and you know what? All of these are great choices for the performance minded buyer.

For example. I have already stated that I would pick the Z06, but I love the sounds of the Ford GT. In my opinion, that car sounds (and looks) much better than the Z06. In terms of all out in-your-face fun and performance, the Ford GT has it all. But if you're looking for a serious machine that can also take you and your lady to a fine restaurant or on an extended road trip, the Z06 gets the nod.

Anyway, y'all have covered some fine wheels here.


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