anoop

I forgot to mention the Velar as well.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=range+rove...ages&ia=images
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=range+rove...ages&ia=images

F23A4

subinf

A friend ordered one and took delivery in November 2023. Rode in it a few times - it's comfortable, quick, seemed to hit all the boxes that he needed. (Edit - first part of this comment was in response to the Fisker picture.)

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Separately - I really thought the cybertruck was a joke. Fuck it is an ugly embarrassment.

Sarlacc

And this is why I love it! Such a polarizing design. I love that people hate it. I'd love to own one just to hear people complain about it

Yumcha

Well, so long as you're cool with the fact that we think you're to buying something like that. It'd be like owning an Aztek?

Sarlacc

Not really, the Aztec was an actual piece of shit.

SamDoe1

And the one that can cut off your finger, scrape away your skin, rust in the rain, and requires an immediate IPA/water cleaning in the event of bird poop and bugs on it isn't?

From a technology standpoint the CT is amazing but for everything else...eh.

Sarlacc

People can always find something to complain about. And they always do.

Not sure about the cutting off the finger thing, havent read about that. But the rust seems to be slightly overblown, and potential attributed to rail dust. So, get the car and detail it. Ceramic will probably go a long way with this vehicle. Or...get a wrap like 90% of teslas owners seems to do anyway

But the Aztec was a literal shitbox. How many do you still see on the road today?

subinf

It is unique. So it get's that check box. I juts don't get it otherwise. If I needed an electric truck I'd get the Ford or Rivian. Was the design just assuming the Tesla devotees would buy it regardless of how it looked? Or the assumption that buyers didn't care how the vehicle looked.

The wife wants a Taycan. We went to look at them. The Turismo is terrible - no idea why that design was approved. The regular one looks great. Just as another useless anecdotal comment on my preferences.

Sarlacc

I like Turismo, too

I think Tesla just said let try and redesign a truck from the ground and make it look futuristic while we're at it. They took a risk and saw it through, I appreciate that.

The new EV charger reveals tomorrow, and pics have been leaking...you should hear the crying over that one. And again I think it looks good.

PhilB81

the only Taycan I would get is a turismo. I much prefer the sport turismo over cross turismo.
panamera dropping the turismo bodystyle removed it from my list of possible candidates if we need to replace a car.
I do wish the turismo cars had a longer roof with a more upright rear window. I prefer how bmw, Audi and Mercedes have a more upright rear window.

SamDoe1

So did Rivian...and it doesn't look like a shitty N64 rendering of a truck.

What EV charger reveal is tomorrow?

PhilB81

Daily mail : ev-pollution-worse-exhaust-emissions-study

You EV people ruined my future! How dare you!

(sarcasm)

civicdrivr

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The...Charger (Dodge) lol

civicdrivr

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Well the Daily Mail thinks ICE cars don't use tires

Sarlacc

See, I love the hate it gets!

I'm sure you already saw, but everything that was rumored...only new news to me is that it will come as a 2 and 4 door. But otherwise EV or TT V6.

00TL-P3.2

TT I6
fify

Sarlacc

yeah that

SamDoe1

Oh! By EV charger you meant EV Dodge Charger not something you plug your EV into lol.

Sarlacc

Yes

Sarlacc

Well, I put a deposit down on a R2...but that surprise R3 reveal is what really has my interest....

anoop

When are you expected to get it?

Sarlacc

It's a refundable deposit.

Deliveries are expected to begin in early 2026. Plenty of time to see what else is coming...or maybe switch to the R3 or R3X (price dependent) when those orders open.

anoop

Wow...that's a long way off. Normally it would be rare for a company to announce a product so early, but I guess Tesla has set a precedent with what it did with Cybertruck, so now it's become the norm. Tried the deposit thing twice and ended up cancelling both times (once with Tesla when deposits were refundable, and once with VW). Now I think it's a waste of time.

I don't think Rivian has much of a chance on its own. It has to get acquired at some point.

SamDoe1

Same! A R3X would make for a fucking awesome daily.

Not putting down a deposit for a R2 for obvious reasons lol.

Sarlacc

I very much disagree with your assessment.

civicdrivr

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I'd rather them play it safe and deliver early/ontime than delay delay delay.

SamDoe1

Yeah, they didn't really pull an Elon and say it'll be available in two weeks and then maybe deliver it 3 years later (or not at all for FSD).

SamDoe1

I know 10 people so far that have put a deposit down for a Rivian R2.

mrmako

So I'm still on track to move to Japan in the summer. But one place you would think that would be more on the EV infrastructure and using EVs is Japan. Lots of commuting and not huge distance drivers. But it's really in it's infancy there. No real charging infrastructure. Going there, I thought about it, but it seems the only way is home charging if doing a pure EV. They overwhelmingly like hybrid systems.

Are they thinking this through better than the US? I think the hybrid is a good bridge as the technology and battery recycling get better. FWIW, my family is not considering any EVs there.

Thoughts?

srika

Got my first EV.

E-Scooter lol - got the Segway P100S. It is SWEET!! So fun - maybe too much fun. I am kinda kicking myself for not getting one sooner. I rode it to work the other day (1.7 mile one way) - and had a grin on my face the whole time. Top speed is 30 which is plenty fast for the city.

civicdrivr

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That can easily be blamed on their domestic auto industry not wanting to move on from hybrids.

I think a hybrid has it's use cases (trains, long haul trucking), but it's the worst of both worlds in a passenger car.

Sarlacc

If youre not traveling all need is home charging if youre able to get it.

I think The US has set itself up better for EV ONLY because of Tesla. If they hadn't had the foresight and ambition to make their supercharger network, we wouldn't be in as strong of a position.

mrmako

Very fair. If that didn't exist, EVs would have far less market share.

SamDoe1

New Genesis GV-60 Magma. Between this and the R3X looks like we're going to have a huge push for hot hatch EV's and I'm definitely here for it.

00TL-P3.2

Looks too concept-y to be real.
The R3 definitely shows some promise in the DD market.

fiatlux

It looks like the existing GV60 with some aero bits. Why would it be concepty?

PhilB81

cuz the plate says so

SamDoe1

^ This.

I think it's likely what's underneath the skin.

Sarlacc

Is the GV60 based on the ioniq5 or the Kona?

cause it’s the Kona…fuck and no. I got stuck in the exact same EV Kona twice getting my car repaired. I fucking hate that thing.