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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 12:38 PM
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I have yet to see a cybertruck actually…

regarding the California mode, seems like a huge miss that you can’t operate those windows outside of that mode…

I also agree with the evoque vibes, especially in that color.
I forgot to mention the Velar as well.
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Old Feb 22, 2024 | 07:43 PM
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 03:14 PM
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A friend ordered one and took delivery in November 2023. Rode in it a few times - it's comfortable, quick, seemed to hit all the boxes that he needed. (Edit - first part of this comment was in response to the Fisker picture.)

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Separately - I really thought the cybertruck was a joke. Fuck it is an ugly embarrassment.
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 03:36 PM
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Separately - I really thought the cybertruck was a joke. Fuck it is an ugly embarrassment.
And this is why I love it! Such a polarizing design. I love that people hate it. I'd love to own one just to hear people complain about it
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
And this is why I love it! Such a polarizing design. I love that people hate it. I'd love to own one just to hear people complain about it
Well, so long as you're cool with the fact that we think you're to buying something like that. It'd be like owning an Aztek?

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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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Well, so long as you're cool with the fact that we think you're to buying something like that. It'd be like owning an Aztek?
Not really, the Aztec was an actual piece of shit.
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Old Mar 1, 2024 | 09:05 AM
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Not really, the Aztec was an actual piece of shit.
And the one that can cut off your finger, scrape away your skin, rust in the rain, and requires an immediate IPA/water cleaning in the event of bird poop and bugs on it isn't?

From a technology standpoint the CT is amazing but for everything else...eh.
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Old Mar 1, 2024 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
And the one that can cut off your finger, scrape away your skin, rust in the rain, and requires an immediate IPA/water cleaning in the event of bird poop and bugs on it isn't?

From a technology standpoint the CT is amazing but for everything else...eh.
People can always find something to complain about. And they always do.

Not sure about the cutting off the finger thing, havent read about that. But the rust seems to be slightly overblown, and potential attributed to rail dust. So, get the car and detail it. Ceramic will probably go a long way with this vehicle. Or...get a wrap like 90% of teslas owners seems to do anyway

But the Aztec was a literal shitbox. How many do you still see on the road today?
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
And this is why I love it! Such a polarizing design. I love that people hate it. I'd love to own one just to hear people complain about it
It is unique. So it get's that check box. I juts don't get it otherwise. If I needed an electric truck I'd get the Ford or Rivian. Was the design just assuming the Tesla devotees would buy it regardless of how it looked? Or the assumption that buyers didn't care how the vehicle looked.

The wife wants a Taycan. We went to look at them. The Turismo is terrible - no idea why that design was approved. The regular one looks great. Just as another useless anecdotal comment on my preferences.
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by subinf
It is unique. So it get's that check box. I juts don't get it otherwise. If I needed an electric truck I'd get the Ford or Rivian. Was the design just assuming the Tesla devotees would buy it regardless of how it looked? Or the assumption that buyers didn't care how the vehicle looked.

The wife wants a Taycan. We went to look at them. The Turismo is terrible - no idea why that design was approved. The regular one looks great. Just as another useless anecdotal comment on my preferences.
I like Turismo, too

I think Tesla just said let try and redesign a truck from the ground and make it look futuristic while we're at it. They took a risk and saw it through, I appreciate that.

The new EV charger reveals tomorrow, and pics have been leaking...you should hear the crying over that one. And again I think it looks good.
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by subinf
It is unique. So it get's that check box. I juts don't get it otherwise. If I needed an electric truck I'd get the Ford or Rivian. Was the design just assuming the Tesla devotees would buy it regardless of how it looked? Or the assumption that buyers didn't care how the vehicle looked.

The wife wants a Taycan. We went to look at them. The Turismo is terrible - no idea why that design was approved. The regular one looks great. Just as another useless anecdotal comment on my preferences.
the only Taycan I would get is a turismo. I much prefer the sport turismo over cross turismo.
panamera dropping the turismo bodystyle removed it from my list of possible candidates if we need to replace a car.
I do wish the turismo cars had a longer roof with a more upright rear window. I prefer how bmw, Audi and Mercedes have a more upright rear window.
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Old Mar 4, 2024 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I like Turismo, too

I think Tesla just said let try and redesign a truck from the ground and make it look futuristic while we're at it. They took a risk and saw it through, I appreciate that.

The new EV charger reveals tomorrow, and pics have been leaking...you should hear the crying over that one. And again I think it looks good.
So did Rivian...and it doesn't look like a shitty N64 rendering of a truck.

What EV charger reveal is tomorrow?
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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 08:38 AM
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Daily mail : ev-pollution-worse-exhaust-emissions-study

You EV people ruined my future! How dare you!

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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
So did Rivian...and it doesn't look like a shitty N64 rendering of a truck.

What EV charger reveal is tomorrow?
The...Charger (Dodge) lol
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilB81
Daily mail : ev-pollution-worse-exhaust-emissions-study

You EV people ruined my future! How dare you!

(sarcasm)
The tire tread releases toxic particles 400 times greater than exhaust emissions
Well the Daily Mail thinks ICE cars don't use tires
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
So did Rivian...and it doesn't look like a shitty N64 rendering of a truck.

What EV charger reveal is tomorrow?
See, I love the hate it gets!

I'm sure you already saw, but everything that was rumored...only new news to me is that it will come as a 2 and 4 door. But otherwise EV or TT V6.
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:15 AM
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:22 AM
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yeah that
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
See, I love the hate it gets!

I'm sure you already saw, but everything that was rumored...only new news to me is that it will come as a 2 and 4 door. But otherwise EV or TT V6.
Oh! By EV charger you meant EV Dodge Charger not something you plug your EV into lol.
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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:57 AM
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Oh! By EV charger you meant EV Dodge Charger not something you plug your EV into lol.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 12:35 PM
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Well, I put a deposit down on a R2...but that surprise R3 reveal is what really has my interest....
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Well, I put a deposit down on a R2...but that surprise R3 reveal is what really has my interest....
When are you expected to get it?
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
When are you expected to get it?
It's a refundable deposit.

Deliveries are expected to begin in early 2026. Plenty of time to see what else is coming...or maybe switch to the R3 or R3X (price dependent) when those orders open.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
It's a refundable deposit.

Deliveries are expected to begin in early 2026. Plenty of time to see what else is coming...or maybe switch to the R3 or R3X (price dependent) when those orders open.
Wow...that's a long way off. Normally it would be rare for a company to announce a product so early, but I guess Tesla has set a precedent with what it did with Cybertruck, so now it's become the norm. Tried the deposit thing twice and ended up cancelling both times (once with Tesla when deposits were refundable, and once with VW). Now I think it's a waste of time.

I don't think Rivian has much of a chance on its own. It has to get acquired at some point.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Well, I put a deposit down on a R2...but that surprise R3 reveal is what really has my interest....
Same! A R3X would make for a fucking awesome daily.

Not putting down a deposit for a R2 for obvious reasons lol.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
I don't think Rivian has much of a chance on its own. It has to get acquired at some point.
I very much disagree with your assessment.
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Originally Posted by anoop
Wow...that's a long way off.
I'd rather them play it safe and deliver early/ontime than delay delay delay.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 02:37 PM
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Yeah, they didn't really pull an Elon and say it'll be available in two weeks and then maybe deliver it 3 years later (or not at all for FSD).
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 04:27 PM
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I know 10 people so far that have put a deposit down for a Rivian R2.
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Old Mar 9, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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So I'm still on track to move to Japan in the summer. But one place you would think that would be more on the EV infrastructure and using EVs is Japan. Lots of commuting and not huge distance drivers. But it's really in it's infancy there. No real charging infrastructure. Going there, I thought about it, but it seems the only way is home charging if doing a pure EV. They overwhelmingly like hybrid systems.

Are they thinking this through better than the US? I think the hybrid is a good bridge as the technology and battery recycling get better. FWIW, my family is not considering any EVs there.

Thoughts?
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Old Mar 9, 2024 | 09:22 AM
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Got my first EV.

E-Scooter lol - got the Segway P100S. It is SWEET!! So fun - maybe too much fun. I am kinda kicking myself for not getting one sooner. I rode it to work the other day (1.7 mile one way) - and had a grin on my face the whole time. Top speed is 30 which is plenty fast for the city.
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Originally Posted by mrmako
So I'm still on track to move to Japan in the summer. But one place you would think that would be more on the EV infrastructure and using EVs is Japan. Lots of commuting and not huge distance drivers. But it's really in it's infancy there. No real charging infrastructure. Going there, I thought about it, but it seems the only way is home charging if doing a pure EV. They overwhelmingly like hybrid systems.

Are they thinking this through better than the US? I think the hybrid is a good bridge as the technology and battery recycling get better. FWIW, my family is not considering any EVs there.

Thoughts?
That can easily be blamed on their domestic auto industry not wanting to move on from hybrids.

I think a hybrid has it's use cases (trains, long haul trucking), but it's the worst of both worlds in a passenger car.
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Old Mar 9, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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If youre not traveling all need is home charging if youre able to get it.

I think The US has set itself up better for EV ONLY because of Tesla. If they hadn't had the foresight and ambition to make their supercharger network, we wouldn't be in as strong of a position.
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Old Mar 11, 2024 | 09:30 PM
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If youre not traveling all need is home charging if youre able to get it.

I think The US has set itself up better for EV ONLY because of Tesla. If they hadn't had the foresight and ambition to make their supercharger network, we wouldn't be in as strong of a position.
Very fair. If that didn't exist, EVs would have far less market share.
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New Genesis GV-60 Magma. Between this and the R3X looks like we're going to have a huge push for hot hatch EV's and I'm definitely here for it.


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Looks too concept-y to be real.
The R3 definitely shows some promise in the DD market.
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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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Looks too concept-y to be real.
The R3 definitely shows some promise in the DD market.
It looks like the existing GV60 with some aero bits. Why would it be concepty?

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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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It looks like the existing GV60 with some aero bits. Why would it be concepty?
cuz the plate says so
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^ This.

I think it's likely what's underneath the skin.
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Old Mar 26, 2024 | 08:37 PM
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Is the GV60 based on the ioniq5 or the Kona?

cause it’s the Kona…fuck and no. I got stuck in the exact same EV Kona twice getting my car repaired. I fucking hate that thing.
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