Wife Car Totaled. Enter Carnote Land
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Wife Car Totaled. Enter Carnote Land
Thursday a young (inexperienced) driver decided it was a good idea to pull out from a secondary street onto the main street (no traffic light) in front of my wife. I'm not going to go into the details of the story, but let me tell you, I was so glad that my wife and 18 month old were both fine. The wife just has the usual airbag bruises and there is not a scratch on kiddo.
Without further ado here is what ensued
We already miss the Tribute What a SOLID vehicle! 6 years old, always serviced by the dealership, detailed by me, not a rattle to speak of and drove like new. Oh, and paid for.
To make a longer story short we started looking for replacement vehicle right away. The list of finalists:
2009 Lexus RX350 (Pebble Beach Edition)
2008 Mazda CX-7
2008 Volvo XC90
Well, that's until we went to the (gulp) BMW dealership. We were looking for anything other than a Beemer, but as you may have already guessed by the language we signed the dotted line for a 2007 X3 Sport. My wife and I are not BMW fans at all, but this car was a degree or two better than the finalist and (as all people say that just bought a new car) the deal was sweet. I could not walk away from it.
We pick up the car on Monday after the detail it and we finalize the paperwork. I'll post pictures later. If you've read this far and want to know the details, here they are:
CPO
Exterior color:
White
Interior color:
Black
Outside goodies:
Xenon, adaptable headlight, halos
19" sport wheels (wrapped in new Pirellis)
Inside goodies:
DVD player w/ dual screens in headrests
Panaramic moonroof w/ double tilt
Bluetooth
Other notables:
Not a scratch on it
Classic BMW performance
Without further ado here is what ensued
We already miss the Tribute What a SOLID vehicle! 6 years old, always serviced by the dealership, detailed by me, not a rattle to speak of and drove like new. Oh, and paid for.
To make a longer story short we started looking for replacement vehicle right away. The list of finalists:
2009 Lexus RX350 (Pebble Beach Edition)
2008 Mazda CX-7
2008 Volvo XC90
Well, that's until we went to the (gulp) BMW dealership. We were looking for anything other than a Beemer, but as you may have already guessed by the language we signed the dotted line for a 2007 X3 Sport. My wife and I are not BMW fans at all, but this car was a degree or two better than the finalist and (as all people say that just bought a new car) the deal was sweet. I could not walk away from it.
We pick up the car on Monday after the detail it and we finalize the paperwork. I'll post pictures later. If you've read this far and want to know the details, here they are:
CPO
Exterior color:
White
Interior color:
Black
Outside goodies:
Xenon, adaptable headlight, halos
19" sport wheels (wrapped in new Pirellis)
Inside goodies:
DVD player w/ dual screens in headrests
Panaramic moonroof w/ double tilt
Bluetooth
Other notables:
Not a scratch on it
Classic BMW performance
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The X3 is a good car, and competes highly in its class. I've never received a ride in one, but I have had a ride in the same year X5 and the suspension on those X5's are bumpy as shit. Not that comfortable of a ride. And I am a huge Bimmer fan.
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Here is a review of the X3 3.0si
source: http://www.epinions.com/review/2007_...t_401684860548
In my initial review of the BMW X3 a few years ago, I was disappointed by its exterior styling, interior materials, and the fact that it was no more practical than a 3-Series wagon yet wasn't nearly as much fun to drive.
For the 2007 model year, the X3 received a mid-cycle freshening. A 260-horsepower 3.0-liter inline six, more powerful than either of the previous engines, is now the only engine. The exterior appearance was updated, and the interior was upgraded. Finally, the suspension was tweaked to address complaints about an overly firm ride.
How successful are the changes? I took the revised BMW X3 for a test drive to find out.
Styling
The lines of the exterior remain nothing special. The new X5 is a more attractively styled vehicle. But with the revised Sport Package the X3 looks more car-like (to be specific, more like a tall 3-Series), sportier, and more worth its price tag. The Sport Package contributes not only larger, sportier 18-inch wheels, but bolder body-color fascias and rocker panels. For aesthetic reasons alone you want it. For best appearance (but the firmest ride), step up to the optional 19-inch wheels.
Inside the styling remains much the same, but the materials on the center console and door panels have been upgraded. It's still about the most downscale ambiance you'll find in a BMW, but it is an improvement.
Accommodations
The driving position is high above a relatively low instrument panel and upright, but isn't as high as in a large conventional SUV. The A-pillars aren't as upright as in the first-generation X5. So while the view forward is expansive and you're clearly not in a car, the X3 still feels somewhat sporty from the driver's seat. The driving position in Acura's RDX is similar.
The Sport Package includes a more heavily bolstered seat, but unlike in the 3-Series the bolsters are not adjustable. So for those without husky builds they're a bit widely spaced. The firm, well-shaped seat is supportive and comfortable, but not luxurious. For a more comfortable seat, I'd advise stepping up to the optional "comfort seats"--except that these aren't available with the Sport Package.
The rear seat remains too low to the floor to provide adults with proper thigh support, but provides enough space for a couple of adults. As in any compact SUV, three would be a squeeze.
When BMW redesigned its larger SUV, the X5, this year they enlarged it to fit a (very cramped) optional third row, but room in the first two rows, and especially legroom, remained much the same. This surprised me, as the old X5 offered little more legroom than the X3. If BMW is going to offer two SUVs, why not make the size difference between them larger?
As it is, the largest difference continues to be shoulder room. The X5's cabin is about four inches broader, a substantial difference. So when in the driver's seat, the X5 feels much larger, while the X3 feels more compact and agile. Get into the back seat, though, and the X5 feels nearly as compact.
Cargo space has been a secondary priority for BMW when designing its SUVs. Here the X3 and X5 offer about the same amount, which is around the compact SUV average. Acceptable for the X3, not so much for the X5.
On the Road
The BMW X3 and base BMW X5 are both powered by the same 260-horsepower 3.0-liter inline six. But, at 4,000 pounds, the X3 weighs a half-ton less than the X5. Not surprisingly, while the six feels merely adequate in the X5, it feels energetic in the X3. Shorter gear ratios than you'll find in a BMW sedan lend a hand, quickly boosting the engine into its powerband. That said, the turbo six now offered in the 3-Series and 5-Series would be an excellent fit here, as the current engine doesn't possess a stout low-end.
Though shift paddles attached to the steering wheel are not an option on the X3 (at least not yet), the transmission can be shifted manually by sliding the lever into a sport slot then tapping it back and forth. There's really very little need for this, though, as the six-speed automatic does an excellent job of selecting the appropriate gear on its own. For aggressive driving, just slip the lever into the sport slot and leave it there. This selects a sport transmission program that downshifts readily and avoids upshifting, so much so that you won't want to use this slot for everyday driving.
Compared to a 3-Series, the X3 handles like an SUV. But compared to just about any other SUV, it handles very sportily, with quick reflexes and excellent balance. The larger X5 feels unwieldy in comparison, especially when without the Sport Package. The only competitor that comes close in terms of handling is the Acura RDX. Like nearly every other BMW, it feels better the harder you push it. The steering wheel rim is very thick, which many people like but which I find reduces steering feel. Said feel is still quite good compared to other SUVs.
Ride quality has been an X3 weak spot. It's much improved in the 2007. Even with the Sport Package I found the ride at least as comfortable as in a Sport Packaged 3, with less busyness over patchy pavement than in other BMWs I've driven recently. The 2007 X3 did seem to roll a bit more in turns, but the improved ride is worth this trade-off.
Noise levels are moderately low. For a full luxury feel, though, BMW clearly wants you to step up to the X5.
BMW X3 Prices and Price Comparisons
A BMW X3 3.0si with Sport Package starts at $42,425, high for a compact SUV. But a similar X5 3.0si lists for over $9,000 more, only $2,000 is accounted for by a higher level of standard equipment. On the other hand, an Acura RDX lists for nearly $9,000 less. Drive them both, then decide whether the BMW is worth the extra outlay.
Prices change frequently, and differences will vary based on feature level. To quickly generate these and other comparisons with the specific features you want, visit my Web site, www.truedelta.com. (It's the only site that provides true "apples-to-apples" price comparisons.)
TrueDelta's page for the BMW X3:
http://www.truedelta.com/models/X3.php
Last Words
I enjoyed driving the BMW X3 more this time around, and also found it easier on the eyes. The handling felt taut, agile, and sporty, without a punishing ride. The X5 feels big and bulky in comparison.
I'd still personally prefer a 3-Series wagon, but for someone who requires an SUV but wants one that has the feel of a compact sport sedan, it's pretty much either this or the Acura RDX. The BMW handles better than the Acura, and with no turbo there's no turbo lag. But the Acura's interior is arguably nicer, and it's price is $9,000 lower. So while those who want the best possible performance out of a compact SUV will spend the extra for the BMW, most others will probably go with the Acura.
That said, neither has been a strong seller, suggesting that the market for upscale performance-oriented compact SUVs is rather limited.
source: http://www.epinions.com/review/2007_...t_401684860548
In my initial review of the BMW X3 a few years ago, I was disappointed by its exterior styling, interior materials, and the fact that it was no more practical than a 3-Series wagon yet wasn't nearly as much fun to drive.
For the 2007 model year, the X3 received a mid-cycle freshening. A 260-horsepower 3.0-liter inline six, more powerful than either of the previous engines, is now the only engine. The exterior appearance was updated, and the interior was upgraded. Finally, the suspension was tweaked to address complaints about an overly firm ride.
How successful are the changes? I took the revised BMW X3 for a test drive to find out.
Styling
The lines of the exterior remain nothing special. The new X5 is a more attractively styled vehicle. But with the revised Sport Package the X3 looks more car-like (to be specific, more like a tall 3-Series), sportier, and more worth its price tag. The Sport Package contributes not only larger, sportier 18-inch wheels, but bolder body-color fascias and rocker panels. For aesthetic reasons alone you want it. For best appearance (but the firmest ride), step up to the optional 19-inch wheels.
Inside the styling remains much the same, but the materials on the center console and door panels have been upgraded. It's still about the most downscale ambiance you'll find in a BMW, but it is an improvement.
Accommodations
The driving position is high above a relatively low instrument panel and upright, but isn't as high as in a large conventional SUV. The A-pillars aren't as upright as in the first-generation X5. So while the view forward is expansive and you're clearly not in a car, the X3 still feels somewhat sporty from the driver's seat. The driving position in Acura's RDX is similar.
The Sport Package includes a more heavily bolstered seat, but unlike in the 3-Series the bolsters are not adjustable. So for those without husky builds they're a bit widely spaced. The firm, well-shaped seat is supportive and comfortable, but not luxurious. For a more comfortable seat, I'd advise stepping up to the optional "comfort seats"--except that these aren't available with the Sport Package.
The rear seat remains too low to the floor to provide adults with proper thigh support, but provides enough space for a couple of adults. As in any compact SUV, three would be a squeeze.
When BMW redesigned its larger SUV, the X5, this year they enlarged it to fit a (very cramped) optional third row, but room in the first two rows, and especially legroom, remained much the same. This surprised me, as the old X5 offered little more legroom than the X3. If BMW is going to offer two SUVs, why not make the size difference between them larger?
As it is, the largest difference continues to be shoulder room. The X5's cabin is about four inches broader, a substantial difference. So when in the driver's seat, the X5 feels much larger, while the X3 feels more compact and agile. Get into the back seat, though, and the X5 feels nearly as compact.
Cargo space has been a secondary priority for BMW when designing its SUVs. Here the X3 and X5 offer about the same amount, which is around the compact SUV average. Acceptable for the X3, not so much for the X5.
On the Road
The BMW X3 and base BMW X5 are both powered by the same 260-horsepower 3.0-liter inline six. But, at 4,000 pounds, the X3 weighs a half-ton less than the X5. Not surprisingly, while the six feels merely adequate in the X5, it feels energetic in the X3. Shorter gear ratios than you'll find in a BMW sedan lend a hand, quickly boosting the engine into its powerband. That said, the turbo six now offered in the 3-Series and 5-Series would be an excellent fit here, as the current engine doesn't possess a stout low-end.
Though shift paddles attached to the steering wheel are not an option on the X3 (at least not yet), the transmission can be shifted manually by sliding the lever into a sport slot then tapping it back and forth. There's really very little need for this, though, as the six-speed automatic does an excellent job of selecting the appropriate gear on its own. For aggressive driving, just slip the lever into the sport slot and leave it there. This selects a sport transmission program that downshifts readily and avoids upshifting, so much so that you won't want to use this slot for everyday driving.
Compared to a 3-Series, the X3 handles like an SUV. But compared to just about any other SUV, it handles very sportily, with quick reflexes and excellent balance. The larger X5 feels unwieldy in comparison, especially when without the Sport Package. The only competitor that comes close in terms of handling is the Acura RDX. Like nearly every other BMW, it feels better the harder you push it. The steering wheel rim is very thick, which many people like but which I find reduces steering feel. Said feel is still quite good compared to other SUVs.
Ride quality has been an X3 weak spot. It's much improved in the 2007. Even with the Sport Package I found the ride at least as comfortable as in a Sport Packaged 3, with less busyness over patchy pavement than in other BMWs I've driven recently. The 2007 X3 did seem to roll a bit more in turns, but the improved ride is worth this trade-off.
Noise levels are moderately low. For a full luxury feel, though, BMW clearly wants you to step up to the X5.
BMW X3 Prices and Price Comparisons
A BMW X3 3.0si with Sport Package starts at $42,425, high for a compact SUV. But a similar X5 3.0si lists for over $9,000 more, only $2,000 is accounted for by a higher level of standard equipment. On the other hand, an Acura RDX lists for nearly $9,000 less. Drive them both, then decide whether the BMW is worth the extra outlay.
Prices change frequently, and differences will vary based on feature level. To quickly generate these and other comparisons with the specific features you want, visit my Web site, www.truedelta.com. (It's the only site that provides true "apples-to-apples" price comparisons.)
TrueDelta's page for the BMW X3:
http://www.truedelta.com/models/X3.php
Last Words
I enjoyed driving the BMW X3 more this time around, and also found it easier on the eyes. The handling felt taut, agile, and sporty, without a punishing ride. The X5 feels big and bulky in comparison.
I'd still personally prefer a 3-Series wagon, but for someone who requires an SUV but wants one that has the feel of a compact sport sedan, it's pretty much either this or the Acura RDX. The BMW handles better than the Acura, and with no turbo there's no turbo lag. But the Acura's interior is arguably nicer, and it's price is $9,000 lower. So while those who want the best possible performance out of a compact SUV will spend the extra for the BMW, most others will probably go with the Acura.
That said, neither has been a strong seller, suggesting that the market for upscale performance-oriented compact SUVs is rather limited.
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Agree.. glad everyone was ok. Accidents do happen and luckily the cars today with crump zones and air bags save lives.
I wanted my wife to drive the X3 before we got her RDX but she loves her RDX. I think all the extras the RDX had vs the X3 did it for her.. she's a shoppin girl.
I think the X3's are fine, I like them better than the X5 since they redesigned it. What type of warranty did they give you on it.. and is it with maintenance?
Jay
I wanted my wife to drive the X3 before we got her RDX but she loves her RDX. I think all the extras the RDX had vs the X3 did it for her.. she's a shoppin girl.
I think the X3's are fine, I like them better than the X5 since they redesigned it. What type of warranty did they give you on it.. and is it with maintenance?
Jay
#13
Good to know that your family is okay. They were very lucky!
It is quite surprising that you decided to go with the X3 when your finalists weren't even in the same class. Good luck with your purchase.
It is quite surprising that you decided to go with the X3 when your finalists weren't even in the same class. Good luck with your purchase.
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Seems like the best cars are always the ones that get tagged but then again, cars are readily replaceable machines. People are priceless, one-of-a-kind entities. I'm glad everybody was okay and hopefully the kid learned a valuable lesson.
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Agree.. glad everyone was ok. Accidents do happen and luckily the cars today with crump zones and air bags save lives.
I wanted my wife to drive the X3 before we got her RDX but she loves her RDX. I think all the extras the RDX had vs the X3 did it for her.. she's a shoppin girl.
I think the X3's are fine, I like them better than the X5 since they redesigned it. What type of warranty did they give you on it.. and is it with maintenance?
Jay
I wanted my wife to drive the X3 before we got her RDX but she loves her RDX. I think all the extras the RDX had vs the X3 did it for her.. she's a shoppin girl.
I think the X3's are fine, I like them better than the X5 since they redesigned it. What type of warranty did they give you on it.. and is it with maintenance?
Jay
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my boss was debating if he should get the x3 or glk350. He got the GLK. He said he test drove both and liked the GLK better. It was a smoother ride and just looked way nicer inside and out.
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the Q5 on the other hand
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it actually looks really good with those wheels and in white
i usually think x3's look weird, but this one is really nice, and great color combo
glad to hear your wife and child are alright
and congrats on the purchase
i usually think x3's look weird, but this one is really nice, and great color combo
glad to hear your wife and child are alright
and congrats on the purchase