I really wish that they will bring the GTI-R here to the US. I fell in love with the GTI, but now knowing that across the shores they offer this car, I want it! No I need it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35-ezpjWmzY

 

yea, you can pretty much bet no matter what import car you buy here... even the highest trim.. there is another, better version in europe/asia etc.

 

Seriously, as long as I'm wishing I also want that S3 to hit our shores.

 

You can import them for tens of thousands of dollars!

 

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Why does the US hate cars?

Because the citizens like them.

 

They don't bring cars like that here because too few people would pay what they would ask for them. That doesn't mean people here hate cars, it simply means people here feel there are better uses of their money.

 

^ What? Seriously?

It usually has more to do with emissions and saftey equipment standards than anything else.

 

You're asking the wrong questions.

Why does the US government require arbitrary safety and emissions guidelines different than Europe and Japan?

And then,

Why does the US manufacturers (and others) make cars to these different standards without the ability to modify them for use in this market?

 

GTI -R

love it, but give me a

Scirocco - R I want this car sooooo bad!!!!!

 

we at least had the option!

 

Haha I wasnt to inclined by how I asked the question. Just pointing out the fact that VW needs to bring the better cars here.

 

GTI-R

 

damn that is a sick VW

thats it, im going back to England lol

 

But they won't because of the different emission standards. That's what Cochese meant.

 

That's part of what causes the cost to be more than most people here would be willing to pay. Cars like we're discussing here cost more than the variants that are already in the states out of the gate. Adding emission and safety equipment only raises that cost. Figured most people would get the underlying logic of my point without a walkthrough .

 

so u have cleaner air to breathe and an ozone...

 

Breathing too much ozone will kill you.

 

Just saying the cars would more expensive isn't a complete answer. The full explaination why they'd be more expensive here is because they don't meet the US's emissions and safety requirements, thus the extra cost of testing, developement, materials and design would be detrimental to the cost/benefit of importing them to the US.

Your unerlying logic isn't so clear, so I cleared it up for you. Mmmmm kay?

 

Werd.
I found his answer a little to vague as well. Why would there be extra cost? Because it wouldn't meet US standards, thus being more expensive.

 

the earth has been around for more time then humans can fathom.. i dont think we're going to make it rot away with bad car emissions

 

This is the main reason right here.

 

Cars like this almost make me wish I lived Europe again.

 

Considering the generally high level of automotive knowledge of the people in Car Talk, I would say it was a complete answer. This is the kind of thing most people here know; no need to go into details. If someone didn't know, they should ask. Everyone here seems very helpful, so I'm sure someone, myself included, wouldn't have minded providing the details had the question been asked.

 

The OP asked, you gave a vague answer, so I cleared it up. End of story. Just chillllllll dawg.

 

This was more of a rhetorical question. I was really just showing the car I want vw to bring to the states

 

The one thing I noticed when I lived in Europe was that most cars over there have the bottom-end most efficient engine. It was very, very few and far between that you would see a car that had an engine that would be comparable to what we get over here. Hell, almost all of the Mercedes S-Class' I saw in Germany were S320 models, I saw one S600 over there, but for the most part the extent of the big engined cars were BMW 335's, the occasional M3 or RS6, and I managed to spot more Porsche's than just about anything when it came to the 250+hp range. I saw one Ferrari and one Lamborghini the entire time I was in Germany, not surprising though when gas is ~$8 a gallon.

So, that said, I don't understand why they get so many different performance oriented cars when for the most part people don't buy them.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

 

The cost of making the car meet US DOT standards is the prohibiting factor.

 

 

Hell, we can't even get some of the best Fords over here!!

 

and $$$$... bust mostly $$$$...

 

Agreed, its a $$$$ issue for manufacturers for the reasons stated above.

Oh and if you live in Europe its also a $$$$ issue since their cars cost a lot more vs. income.

 

I thought the Golf R will be coming to America?

 

Truth be told, emissions and safety are only true of exclusive models. Something like the S3 or Golf R are basically the same thing as the versions we get here, just a rare version. Something like the Focus RS is on a car that's quite different from any US-sold version so that's where it comes in.

And the emissions of said VW and Audi probably don't hold true either. They have the same engine in the sold-in-the-US Audi TTS.

Mostly it's greed. If they're only sell a few thousand most manufacturers don't want to go through any extra trouble. Low volume is fine in Europe, Down Under, and in Japan but for whatever reason they don't want to do much low volume in America.

P.S. The A3 has sold poorly in the US so an even more expensive S version just wouldn't make sense.

P.S.S. The Golf R is coming in 2011 as a 2012 I believe....?

 

Some of the problem is the availability of higher octane gas. While not exactly, regular gas in Europe is close to what we would call premium and their premium is higher. Pretty much all of these special edition cars are designed to take advantage of the higher octane fuel in Europe (or Japan). Don't forget, they have to make them run on CA fuel to be realistically marketed here.

That is one reason we never got the 2.0L JDM twin scroll STi. It won't run on 91 octane and make anywhere near the power it can on the higher octane fuel available in Japan.

This is not the end all reason, but it is another contributor to making these cars more expensive here--they would have to be retuned to run on our garbage gas.

 

what the hell are you talking about?


http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-v...tml#more-21681

 

also we get the Mustang 5.0, SVT Raptor, Viper ACR, and Z06 Carbon

 

Thank you. They have special cars and we have special cars.

Although they get the Mustang GT as well (5.0 as you said for 2011...doubt the 11s have hit in Europe yet).

 

Really? I remember in 2005 they still had to import them.

 

No you're wrong, VW still hasnt confirmed the Golf R. Well I havent checked recently but the date from the article tells me that they haven't confirmed. They are still thinking about it, and it is a good chance it will come here, but there is still a chance it won't.

edit: At least this is what I'm getting at over at the VW forums. People are emailing VWoA asking them if it is cofirmed and that they are interested, and the response in the emails is that it is still not guaranteed that it is coming. So I don't trust that article. I may be wrong though, who knows