When will Audi catch up to BMW? Or has it?
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Just based on the premise that Audi called out BMW with a base model A4 and they responded with "Checkmate" and an M3 means that Audi fails. The R8, as awesome as it is, cannot redeem them.
There is no response to checkmate, except to rage quit and violently flip the chessboard over in anger. If the ad had an R8 instead of an A4 though, it would be a different story.
By the way, this was Audi's response. Weak. oh and it was Audi NA that called out BMW as a brand, and the lone Santa Monica dealership came up with that... gold.
There is no response to checkmate, except to rage quit and violently flip the chessboard over in anger. If the ad had an R8 instead of an A4 though, it would be a different story.
By the way, this was Audi's response. Weak. oh and it was Audi NA that called out BMW as a brand, and the lone Santa Monica dealership came up with that... gold.
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Each manufacturer has its strengths...
BMW could not touch Audi's exterior or interior design IMO. Exterior looks, Audi clinches it too.
For the most part, given how popular the 3-series is, I think it has alot to do with its past more than anything else. It is a terrific car, no doubt. But, does that make BMW > Audi?
Well, only if you think the X3 is better than the Q5; the 5-series is better than the A6; the 7-series is better than the A8...and that's tough.
And honestly, with the RS5, I would take that over an M3. Screw the price.
BMW could not touch Audi's exterior or interior design IMO. Exterior looks, Audi clinches it too.
For the most part, given how popular the 3-series is, I think it has alot to do with its past more than anything else. It is a terrific car, no doubt. But, does that make BMW > Audi?
Well, only if you think the X3 is better than the Q5; the 5-series is better than the A6; the 7-series is better than the A8...and that's tough.
And honestly, with the RS5, I would take that over an M3. Screw the price.
Penske Audi. I've heard great and really horrible experiences about them. I've only had to visit them for three oil changes so far and each time has been ok, but I think I need to find another place to go. Where do you go?
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I wouldn't mind trying an Audi. I did the BMW already (535i)....it nickeled and dimed me to death. I like the exterior styling of Audi. Don't flame me for saying that the BMW's are all starting to look the same....
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Each manufacturer has its strengths...
BMW could not touch Audi's exterior or interior design IMO. Exterior looks, Audi clinches it too.
For the most part, given how popular the 3-series is, I think it has alot to do with its past more than anything else. It is a terrific car, no doubt. But, does that make BMW > Audi?
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BMW could not touch Audi's exterior or interior design IMO. Exterior looks, Audi clinches it too.
For the most part, given how popular the 3-series is, I think it has alot to do with its past more than anything else. It is a terrific car, no doubt. But, does that make BMW > Audi?
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I dont understand your other part. How can the current 3series be popular only becuase of its past. Current 3er has been out since 2005, thats a long time. Its the benchmark of the segment and always has.
Your 535 was from the 80s, rite?
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The A7 shows the new A6 interior and it looks fantastic.
That said, anything before about 2004 is definitely to BMW's advantage inside and out. Audi simply was not competitive before that IMO.
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I dunno, have you seen the new 5series interior? I was blown away by it when i sat in it. Easily far better than the A6 interior. 5er exterior is kinda bland though.
I dont understand your other part. How can the current 3series be popular only becuase of its past. Current 3er has been out since 2005, thats a long time. Its the benchmark of the segment and always has.
I dont understand your other part. How can the current 3series be popular only becuase of its past. Current 3er has been out since 2005, thats a long time. Its the benchmark of the segment and always has.
Don't get me wrong, I think both manufacturers are leaders in their field in many ways. Without the 3-Series, there would not be others trying to make their product better (i.e. the A4, G-Series, C-Class)...That being said, I think the lead that BMW had when the first came out with the 3-Series has now reduced to the point where I think it's a toss-up.
But, again, that's just me.
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...I'd get an RS5. 
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It cant be any worse than the manual in my dad's e39 M5 ^^,...annoys me quite a bit.
x3 on clutch pedal in the M3
On the topic of manuals,........I am worried when I go to get my next car I wont be able to find a manual I will like enough/would want to live with every day (or drive on a regular basis). That said, that thought of NOT having a manual is even worse.
Hopefully things turn out well when that time comes. It's a shame Honda doenst make anything I would want to buy anymore, since they make great manuals (in my experiences anyway).
x3 on clutch pedal in the M3
On the topic of manuals,........I am worried when I go to get my next car I wont be able to find a manual I will like enough/would want to live with every day (or drive on a regular basis). That said, that thought of NOT having a manual is even worse.
Hopefully things turn out well when that time comes. It's a shame Honda doenst make anything I would want to buy anymore, since they make great manuals (in my experiences anyway).
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Coming from a person that owns a BMW; I still say Audi is pretty much ahead of BMW. Why?
Audi's A8 seems to be far more advance in tech than of BMW's 7 series. Audi's interior design is more creative, and better than BMW's. BMW's interior design is boring, and the infamous cup-holder designs are a joke. Audi is more reliable than BMW for a German car company.
However, there are going to be areas where BMW is better than Audi, of course. BMW does make excellent cars in terms of performance. Especially in the M line up. The BMW M3 totally dominates the S5 and RS5 in every way.
In terms of technology for both companies. Audi is ahead.
Audi's A8 seems to be far more advance in tech than of BMW's 7 series. Audi's interior design is more creative, and better than BMW's. BMW's interior design is boring, and the infamous cup-holder designs are a joke. Audi is more reliable than BMW for a German car company.
However, there are going to be areas where BMW is better than Audi, of course. BMW does make excellent cars in terms of performance. Especially in the M line up. The BMW M3 totally dominates the S5 and RS5 in every way.
In terms of technology for both companies. Audi is ahead.
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Coming from a person that owns a BMW; I still say Audi is pretty much ahead of BMW. Why?
Audi's A8 seems to be far more advance in tech than of BMW's 7 series. Audi's interior design is more creative, and better than BMW's. BMW's interior design is boring, and the infamous cup-holder designs are a joke. Audi is more reliable than BMW for a German car company.
However, there are going to be areas where BMW is better than Audi, of course. BMW does make excellent cars in terms of performance. Especially in the M line up. The BMW M3 totally dominates the S5 and RS5 in every way.
In terms of technology for both companies. Audi is ahead.
Audi's A8 seems to be far more advance in tech than of BMW's 7 series. Audi's interior design is more creative, and better than BMW's. BMW's interior design is boring, and the infamous cup-holder designs are a joke. Audi is more reliable than BMW for a German car company.
However, there are going to be areas where BMW is better than Audi, of course. BMW does make excellent cars in terms of performance. Especially in the M line up. The BMW M3 totally dominates the S5 and RS5 in every way.
In terms of technology for both companies. Audi is ahead.
you must be joking or uneducated on the new 7 series if you think that. I haven't seen ANY other car in it's class as technologically advanced as the BMW 7 series. In that department it wins hands down IMHO. But there are other aspects that need to be considered. I also don't think the interior is boring, its a luxurious contemporary interior. I'd take a 7 over an A8 any day personally, although its a close comparison.
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you must be joking or uneducated on the new 7 series if you think that. I haven't seen ANY other car in it's class as technologically advanced as the BMW 7 series. In that department it wins hands down IMHO. But there are other aspects that need to be considered. I also don't think the interior is boring, its a luxurious contemporary interior. I'd take a 7 over an A8 any day personally, although its a close comparison.
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you must be joking or uneducated on the new 7 series if you think that. I haven't seen ANY other car in it's class as technologically advanced as the BMW 7 series. In that department it wins hands down IMHO. But there are other aspects that need to be considered. I also don't think the interior is boring, its a luxurious contemporary interior. I'd take a 7 over an A8 any day personally, although its a close comparison.I saw a youtube video on the Audi A8, and it seems like it comes with better tech than the 7 Series. In the video, the A8 was said to come with a new Navi with google map interface. A touch tablet thing where you write with your finger to spell stuff? And something about internet. I'm not really sure if I remember correctly... I saw the video awhile back.