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Old May 11, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Btw.. the Type-S above spanked the G35 and IS350 by a couple of seconds.

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AKA how to drive like a douchebag 101.

from all BMW drivers.
Settle down everyone.. first thing first.. did you bring your obnoxious bluetooth ear pieces, color mirrored sunglasses, and salmon color polos? Let's begin..

Where's JC's cock-meter when you need it.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flipster23
AKA how to drive like a douchebag 101.

from all BMW drivers.
You better hide.

My excuse is, if everyone drives the same speed as I do, then i don't have to cut them off.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
You better hide.

My excuse is, if everyone drives the same speed as I do, then i don't have to cut them off.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Btw.. the Type-S above spanked the G35 and IS350 by a couple of seconds.



Settle down everyone.. first thing first.. did you bring your obnoxious bluetooth ear pieces, color mirrored sunglasses, and salmon color polos? Let's begin..

Where's JC's cock-meter when you need it.
First things first. Your turn signals have been permantley disabled.

Next, the following distance between you and the car in front of you will be greatly reduced, even though there are ten cars in front of you going the exact same speed.

For you, joe: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2334/2...f303dd017e.jpg

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Old May 12, 2015 | 01:05 AM
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You must have taken 102..
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Old May 12, 2015 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flipster23
AKA how to drive like a douchebag 101.

from all BMW drivers.

Some BMW drivers - not all

I had my share of M3's in the past and never dove like that (but mainly because I drove honda's since I was 16 - mainly Preludes

I read lots of good reviews on the BMW training - let's see if it is that good.

I will also attend the M tour day where you get to experience all the M's at the track - so that should be fun as well
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Old May 12, 2015 | 08:04 AM
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^looks like you mastered the BMW attitude already
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Old May 12, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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Old May 12, 2015 | 12:48 PM
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Too much M.

I drive the same way with every car. If anything, i am probably more aggressive with my Accord cuz it is so damn slow.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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with the FRZ/BRZ you can drive at 8/10ths because its so fucking slow.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
with the FRZ/BRZ you can drive at 8/10ths because its so fucking slow.
speaking of those, I watched a couple of youtube videos recently where they directly compare the FRS/BRZ to the S2000 - that was interesting how they compared them.

The S2000 came out the winner in both comparisons
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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:22 PM
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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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To add more clarification to my original question, I was talking to a racing instructor and he advised me to take the TL-S to the track the first time and not the S2000 as he saw the S2000 biting many beginners at the track - and he also said I will learn more pushing the TL-S vs the S
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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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why u mad tho? bc crabs.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyasiantl
First things first. Your turn signals have been permantley disabled.

Next, the following distance between you and the car in front of you will be greatly reduced, even though there are ten cars in front of you going the exact same speed.

For you, joe:

missed this!

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Old May 12, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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If you want to play it safe, I'd recommend doing AutoX and then graduating to a full track day. Not sure what the BMW driving courses consist of, but I think a full day of AutoX in an S2000 would teach you the same if not more understanding of what car control is.

I did it in the reverse order and I wish I had done it the other way around
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Old May 12, 2015 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NSX7
To add more clarification to my original question, I was talking to a racing instructor and he advised me to take the TL-S to the track the first time and not the S2000 as he saw the S2000 biting many beginners at the track - and he also said I will learn more pushing the TL-S vs the S
no. take the S2000.

Can you take a picture of your TLS and S2000 with bacon and broccoli?
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Old May 12, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo

Can you take a picture of your TLS and S2000 with bacon and broccoli?
I concur.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
with the FRZ/BRZ you can drive at 8/10ths because its so fucking slow.


I am not debating how slow the twins are... but that's not the reason it's hard to kill yourself at 8/10ths. They are easy to drive and forgiving at the limit.

Hell, in general a car that understeers (vs. over) will be more forgiving.
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Old May 12, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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keep it under 45 mph and everything will be fine.
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Old May 13, 2015 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NSX7
To add more clarification to my original question, I was talking to a racing instructor and he advised me to take the TL-S to the track the first time and not the S2000 as he saw the S2000 biting many beginners at the track - and he also said I will learn more pushing the TL-S vs the S
have you vtaked into a corner yet with the s2k?
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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First time at track with s2k..
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:46 AM
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Ask Jin about my first experience at the track with my AP2

OP - do AutoX first, you run very little risk of hurting you or your car.
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Old May 13, 2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Ask Jin about my first experience at the track with my AP2

OP - do AutoX first, you run very little risk of hurting you or your car.
OK Thanks - I will look into that then
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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Old May 13, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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Dear Tyler, I have this rash...[pic]..
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Old May 13, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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This was Tyler on his first track day with his S2K.



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Old May 22, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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update

update - sold the TL-S (for more than I bought it for) - there are some crazy people out there willing to pay a premium for a TL-s 6 speed - and landed a really good deal on a 2005 RSX Type S

Now that car is toss-able

it has urethane bushings and other little upgrades to eliminate the understeer as well as little performance upgrades to give it more oomph - not sure now if there is a huge difference between that and the S2000

Wow - it is that close in power and handling to the S2000 - I am very surprised - will take it to the track this Monday to test the limits
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Not the route I would have taken, but to each his own

Are you going to use the RSX as a daily now?

Post pictures!
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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there are some crazy people out there willing to pay a premium for a TL-s 6 speed
With Acura ditching the MT all together, this is no surprise to me.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
With Acura ditching the MT all together, this is no surprise to me.
it's also the trim with the most power.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 10:43 AM
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for an RSX.. My buddy had an RSX back in the day.. totally not S2K comparable. What else does it have going for it?
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
This was Tyler on his first track day with his S2K.



Vid?
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My first track day was certainly not a disappointment, just had 1 spinout with a cloud of dust in my interior - I still have sand in my air vents & other parts of my dash.

I'll see if I can dig up the run, just need to find the SD card.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NSX7
update - sold the TL-S (for more than I bought it for) - there are some crazy people out there willing to pay a premium for a TL-s 6 speed - and landed a really good deal on a 2005 RSX Type S

Now that car is toss-able

it has urethane bushings and other little upgrades to eliminate the understeer as well as little performance upgrades to give it more oomph - not sure now if there is a huge difference between that and the S2000

Wow - it is that close in power and handling to the S2000 - I am very surprised - will take it to the track this Monday to test the limits
Congrats in getting a good deal!

The RSX-S is a nice little car, but no, it's not comparable to S2K at all. You need to spend substantial amount of $$ in mods to make it comparable to the S2K.

Just have fun with it. It's a FWD so shouldn't be too hard to drive fast. Give us some review after the track day!

Originally Posted by Majofo
for an RSX.. My buddy had an RSX back in the day.. totally not S2K comparable. What else does it have going for it?
This.

Originally Posted by Majofo
Vid?
This was like early last year at Chuckwalla Raceway. I don't think I had uploaded the video. lol I'll dig through the files later tonight. I think I have Tyler in my video but it was the session later in the day.

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My first track day was certainly not a disappointment, just had 1 spinout with a cloud of dust in my interior - I still have sand in my air vents & other parts of my dash.

I'll see if I can dig up the run, just need to find the SD card.
Man, it was FUN that day. Just too far. I don't think I would ever go back to Chuckwalla. That track was way too far for a single day trip. And this is coming from me who thinks Buttonwillow is not too far from LA at all for a single track day trip. haha
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Old May 22, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Old May 22, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
Not the route I would have taken, but to each his own

Are you going to use the RSX as a daily now?

Post pictures!

I will post pics when I get a chance - yes the RSX will be a daily - it just feels way lighter and way more nimble than the TL

I wanted to give the TL-S a chance by installing tighter suspension and removing some basic stuff to make it lighter - but was worried that after spending this money, it will still not be to my liking.
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Old May 22, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
for an RSX.. My buddy had an RSX back in the day.. totally not S2K comparable. What else does it have going for it?
Yes not comparable in the RWD/FWD as well as a convertible vs a coupe

but drive an RSX-S with an intake,3" exhaust, and tuned - and come back and tell me it's not comparable to a stock S2000 in power

Handling is very subjective but it does handle really really good - it totally surprised me when I drove it hard

Car was owned by an older guy for the last 8 years - and it was not molested

Yes it's not apples to apples - but I bought the car that way and I can dare say it is as fast as the S2000 - or at least close - I drive both regularly
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This got me thinking - what it would be like if the S2000 gets the same upgrades - intake, bigger exhaust and a tune?

I heard it will not make such a big difference - but not sure???
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Originally Posted by NSX7
This got me thinking - what it would be like if the S2000 gets the same upgrades - intake, bigger exhaust and a tune?

I heard it will not make such a big difference - but not sure???
Very little difference, Honda got about as much performance as possible out of the engine.
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