Used motorcycles
09-10-2003, 07:20 PM
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Used motorcycles
I want to buy something that's like 4-5k, preferably a GSX-R 750 (for my first bike), what should I look for? What's "too many" miles? To what extent can body damage matter in mechanical operating function? etc. etc. any other insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
09-10-2003, 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by amisconception
I like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=50029
What do you guys think?
I like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=50029
What do you guys think?
how much u wanna spend on a used bike?
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09-10-2003, 09:42 PM
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checkout www.argocycles.com. good deals there on decent bikes.
09-10-2003, 09:44 PM
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09-10-2003, 10:01 PM
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Mkae sure that you find the Book value on the bike before buying.
And never buy without kicking the tire and test riding. I saw one bike on Ebay once and it looked great in the pictures. Turned out to be a POS when I went to inspect it.
My brother-in-law bought a car from Ebay and also bought a lemon.
Be warned!!
And never buy without kicking the tire and test riding. I saw one bike on Ebay once and it looked great in the pictures. Turned out to be a POS when I went to inspect it.
My brother-in-law bought a car from Ebay and also bought a lemon.
Be warned!!
09-10-2003, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Simpleman
You don't think a GSXR 750 is too much bike for your first one?
You don't think a GSXR 750 is too much bike for your first one?
09-11-2003, 03:13 AM
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Mileage is not near as important when buying a sport bike as is the condition and how it was ridden and taken care of. I've seen bikes with barely 3k miles that were beaten pretty bad. Never given a good break in, and had already been through a couple tires. I would stay a mile away from a bike that some kid had beat up like that. So many squid and squid wannabees out there just beating the hell out of those bikes. You have to be real careful. Make sure you check it closely, understand the owner and how he rode it, or just buy new and know for sure it's past. If some 19 year old tells you oh yea, it's been ridden easily, I'd be real suspicious. I've been looking at some used ones for my son and if you know your bikes you can quickly tell that 90% of the used ones should be avoided.
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Originally posted by lrutt
Mileage is not near as important when buying a sport bike as is the condition and how it was ridden and taken care of. I've seen bikes with barely 3k miles that were beaten pretty bad. Never given a good break in, and had already been through a couple tires. I would stay a mile away from a bike that some kid had beat up like that. So many squid and squid wannabees out there just beating the hell out of those bikes. You have to be real careful. Make sure you check it closely, understand the owner and how he rode it, or just buy new and know for sure it's past. If some 19 year old tells you oh yea, it's been ridden easily, I'd be real suspicious. I've been looking at some used ones for my son and if you know your bikes you can quickly tell that 90% of the used ones should be avoided.
Mileage is not near as important when buying a sport bike as is the condition and how it was ridden and taken care of. I've seen bikes with barely 3k miles that were beaten pretty bad. Never given a good break in, and had already been through a couple tires. I would stay a mile away from a bike that some kid had beat up like that. So many squid and squid wannabees out there just beating the hell out of those bikes. You have to be real careful. Make sure you check it closely, understand the owner and how he rode it, or just buy new and know for sure it's past. If some 19 year old tells you oh yea, it's been ridden easily, I'd be real suspicious. I've been looking at some used ones for my son and if you know your bikes you can quickly tell that 90% of the used ones should be avoided.
Make sure you give it the once-over really well before you buy.
This time of year, there will be plenty of used bikes on the market(well, maybe not in seasonless L.A.).
09-11-2003, 06:38 AM
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Take the motorcycle safety course and get your motorcycle license first (if you don't already have it).
That way you can test drive a perspective candidate before you buy it. Most dealers and some private sellers will require you to have a license before they let you get on a bike.
I'd never buy a vehicle that I hadn't driven myself.
That way you can test drive a perspective candidate before you buy it. Most dealers and some private sellers will require you to have a license before they let you get on a bike.
I'd never buy a vehicle that I hadn't driven myself.
09-11-2003, 03:48 PM
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Thanks guys for all the input!
gdubb: thank you especially, I'll PM you when (per greenmonster's advice) I get my bike license...
But on the subject, what other specific mechanical things am I going to be looking for? I know the first oil-change is important to a bike's condition, what else though?
And what's a squidee? haha
gdubb: thank you especially, I'll PM you when (per greenmonster's advice) I get my bike license...
But on the subject, what other specific mechanical things am I going to be looking for? I know the first oil-change is important to a bike's condition, what else though?
And what's a squidee? haha
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Originally posted by amisconception
And what's a squidee? haha
And what's a squidee? haha
Oh, and he buys the most-expensive & loudest pipe he can find...regardless of performance loss...
Any/all of the above is considered a squidly squidward squidee.
09-12-2003, 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by chris3240929
Squid= Some ass-hat who buys a bike he doesn't know how to ride...that is too big for him...doesn't wear a helmet...does stunts on public roads...often installs parts that look nice but do nothing for performance...buys every factory sticker he finds on ebay & plasters his bike with them...then wrecks his bike before he gets 1 mile from the bike shop.
Oh, and he buys the most-expensive & loudest pipe he can find...regardless of performance loss...
Any/all of the above is considered a squidly squidward squidee.
Squid= Some ass-hat who buys a bike he doesn't know how to ride...that is too big for him...doesn't wear a helmet...does stunts on public roads...often installs parts that look nice but do nothing for performance...buys every factory sticker he finds on ebay & plasters his bike with them...then wrecks his bike before he gets 1 mile from the bike shop.
Oh, and he buys the most-expensive & loudest pipe he can find...regardless of performance loss...
Any/all of the above is considered a squidly squidward squidee.
09-12-2003, 06:25 PM
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10k on a motorcycle (crotch rocket) is like 50k on a car. Depending on who owned it.
I personally would buy new. Pickup a Buell Blast. Small not very fast, and perfect to learn on. It won't over power you.
And, you can trade it back at almost full value for a better buell at a later time.
XB12s or the lightning.
I personally would buy new. Pickup a Buell Blast. Small not very fast, and perfect to learn on. It won't over power you.
And, you can trade it back at almost full value for a better buell at a later time.
XB12s or the lightning.
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I have been working at Motorcycle shops and have been selling Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Aprilia, Triumph and BMW since fall of '99. I ain't saying I know everything or anything like that. I have just seen a lot and learned ever more from guys with 50+ years experience.
Anyway, getting a sportbike as your first bike is ok. But a GSX-R 750 is WAY too much bike man. I've been at 130mph on a couple seconds and been maybe half way into 3rd gear. You will end up crashing the bike. Please trust me man.
Most people who buy a sportbike (especially the supersports) will almost always lay it down at least 1 time. I did. Don't buy anything bigger tha a 600cc. Honest to god, I know a handful of people who can ride a newer gsx-r600 or r6 cbr600 etc, to its full potential, or even close. Thats the truth. Not many can. I can leave a guy begind on a gsx-r1000 riding a 600, even if the guys an ok rider. In a straight line, no. But on any road with any curves or hills etc., I'll leave them behindaround any corner. And I know sooo many people like this. All their friends tell them, OH you'll be bored on a 600 quick, but truth is, you can have a 600cc for 5 years and still wont be able to ride it to its full potential & speed. 600's are scary fast and handle better, can keep up with bigger bikes and there are so many things you can do to make it go faster. I see guys buy 600's and I'd say 70% maybe more lay them down within the first 6 months, no lie.
Guys that basically start on a 750 or liter bike will lay them down 99% of the time. I have personally seen 6 people lay down a brand new 750 or 1000 in the parking lot, turning from the lot to the road and 100ft. down the road, and seen some more than once too.
My best suggestion is to buy a 92+ CBR600 in good condition. They are extremely fast, very reliable if they were cared for, and if and when you lay it down it is only a $2000 to $4000 TOPS bike, instead of a $9000 plus new bike that after you cause $1000 damage and EASILY more, just from laying it down even at 15-30. Fairings will cost aveerage $500 a piece. Bend a fork and,or triple tree, even bend it, bend the frame or subframe and you are screwed. It'll cost 1/2 the bikes total cost, maybe moore, maybe a little less depending anyway. But, if any 1 of those parts are damaged, your looking at 2000, 3000 average. Just new fairings and mirrors, bars and ends, turn signals, maybe a windshield, maybe new brake/clutch pedal and handles etc etc etc, your looking well over $1000, plus the bike just lost most retail value.
So, make sure you make sure the bike has never been damaged like any of that stuff before you buy.
Just wanted to give my advise from my experience. Oh, when you first get the bike, spend your money on the best riding jacket, gloves, helmet, boots and some type of pants first. Dont be that guy who just have to put on all the performance stuff to "go faster".... before they have even ridden the damn bike. If you hit the ground without that stuff, your dead. It has saved my life 2 times for sure and sooo many people I know. ANd I know 3 people who have died riding without riding gear, and 1 with a $50 helmet.
A sprocket 3 teeth bigger in back will make your bike accelerate niticable faster and even give you a few mph top speed.
hope some of this helped,
-Mike
Anyway, getting a sportbike as your first bike is ok. But a GSX-R 750 is WAY too much bike man. I've been at 130mph on a couple seconds and been maybe half way into 3rd gear. You will end up crashing the bike. Please trust me man.
Most people who buy a sportbike (especially the supersports) will almost always lay it down at least 1 time. I did. Don't buy anything bigger tha a 600cc. Honest to god, I know a handful of people who can ride a newer gsx-r600 or r6 cbr600 etc, to its full potential, or even close. Thats the truth. Not many can. I can leave a guy begind on a gsx-r1000 riding a 600, even if the guys an ok rider. In a straight line, no. But on any road with any curves or hills etc., I'll leave them behindaround any corner. And I know sooo many people like this. All their friends tell them, OH you'll be bored on a 600 quick, but truth is, you can have a 600cc for 5 years and still wont be able to ride it to its full potential & speed. 600's are scary fast and handle better, can keep up with bigger bikes and there are so many things you can do to make it go faster. I see guys buy 600's and I'd say 70% maybe more lay them down within the first 6 months, no lie.
Guys that basically start on a 750 or liter bike will lay them down 99% of the time. I have personally seen 6 people lay down a brand new 750 or 1000 in the parking lot, turning from the lot to the road and 100ft. down the road, and seen some more than once too.
My best suggestion is to buy a 92+ CBR600 in good condition. They are extremely fast, very reliable if they were cared for, and if and when you lay it down it is only a $2000 to $4000 TOPS bike, instead of a $9000 plus new bike that after you cause $1000 damage and EASILY more, just from laying it down even at 15-30. Fairings will cost aveerage $500 a piece. Bend a fork and,or triple tree, even bend it, bend the frame or subframe and you are screwed. It'll cost 1/2 the bikes total cost, maybe moore, maybe a little less depending anyway. But, if any 1 of those parts are damaged, your looking at 2000, 3000 average. Just new fairings and mirrors, bars and ends, turn signals, maybe a windshield, maybe new brake/clutch pedal and handles etc etc etc, your looking well over $1000, plus the bike just lost most retail value.
So, make sure you make sure the bike has never been damaged like any of that stuff before you buy.
Just wanted to give my advise from my experience. Oh, when you first get the bike, spend your money on the best riding jacket, gloves, helmet, boots and some type of pants first. Dont be that guy who just have to put on all the performance stuff to "go faster".... before they have even ridden the damn bike. If you hit the ground without that stuff, your dead. It has saved my life 2 times for sure and sooo many people I know. ANd I know 3 people who have died riding without riding gear, and 1 with a $50 helmet.
A sprocket 3 teeth bigger in back will make your bike accelerate niticable faster and even give you a few mph top speed.
hope some of this helped,
-Mike
01-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Good thing your advice was prompt!!!
Good thing your advice was prompt!!!
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