Just wanted to give my .2 on the TSX and ask a question. First of all I was so disappointed in the TSX. I guess from a TL that is normal but my god the car is slow. The inside is so cheap and the care makes me feel like a am driving a Civic; with the exception of the handeling. The TSX feels like it handels more like a BMW than the TL does. I have a feeling it is because of my horrible Turanza tires v the nice tires onthe TSX. I realize the TSX is smaller, but the car seems to handle better. Maybe it is because the same turn i take a 20MPH inthe TSX I take at 35 in the TL? I am glad i spentthe extra...night and day!

 

that's what I been trying to tell people who are whacked enough to compare the two - they are not even on the same playing field. No one get me wrong - if you like the TSX great, but don't compare to TL. For the price, the TSX is a total rip.

 

That's why the TL was awarded "Best Buy" by Consumer Guide, while TSX got no recommendation!

 

There is no reason to bitch about other cars here. First of all, you don't have a TSX, so you don't have to worry about driving it all over the places. Second of all, different people get different cars for various reasons. People who spend $70,000 will wonder why some people get TL.

 

It's fine that you all like your TL, but to bash the TSX as a bad car?

Perhaps someone would like to explain why the TSX ranks 1st in Car and driver comparos and is part of the 10 best cars, neither of which the TL has accomplished.

The TL is a bigger and faster than the TSX but so is the price.

Wouldn't it be funny for a new RL owner to complain about "TL while RL in shop! Man the TL is slow, small, and the torque steer is massive! Plus the fake wood and aluminum is cheap! No SH-AWD = crap!!!"

 

that's pretty harsh, i test drive the TSX and it was a very nice car to drive. the handling was a little more nimble but was under powered for me. and no it didn't handle like a bmw, my last car was a 3 series and there is no way to compare the 2. the 3 series has a much more nuetral steering and the rwd characteristics give it a ride on rails type of feel.

 

Geez, at least you got a TSX to drive. Some folks get the Kia or Cavalier from Enterprise.

 

Tsx is not a pos, i think its more of a sporty car, the interior isn't "cheap" its somewhat similar to our TL.

 

that'd be me - fecking shitbox Dodge Neon for next 3 days
dealer

 

 

w00t w00t!

 

when i get a RL, i'll remember to post a piss-ass poor review of your POS TL loaner

damn n00bs :shakes_fists:

 

Of course the TL and the TSX isn't at the same level, just look at the price difference.
Do you think people who drive the TSX compares their cars to a Civic EX?

Also, the TSX is a total rip? Are you kidding?

:stfu:

 

This thread is

 

uh, I am guessing those 5 dudes above me are proud TSX owners

 

So this is how you guys try to get the A-TSX guys to come over to A-TL...



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Seriously though, both cars are different...and my dealership gave me a fawking Malibu for a rental

 

Whoa...its getting a little crowded in here with all the TL & TSX people...

My opinion:
1. I like the TSX interior (esp the three spoke steering wheel).
2. It's got great handling compared to the TL.
3. I hear the 2.4L in the TSX is a great platform to build upon.

I like the way the TL looks better, but that is subjective. Of course a person "might" be disappointed with the TSX when you are used to the TL. There is almost a $7K differential so its expected. Nothing new, and it definitely doesn't take away from the TSX's strong points.

 

FYI: the stock Michelins TSX tires are crap, when it comes to handling.

 

doh ! did you have to be so blunt ? just dented my pride

 

Hey TSX guys, welcome to the TL side....

I happen to like the TSX. It's a different car for a different mission within the same platform.

It handles better than a stock TL. TL has more toys.

And it's almost time to move this gig to "Cars and bikes" anyway....

 

Do you see the contradiction in your statements? I trust that you are not suggesting that a TL can out maneuver a BMW.

I am sorry that you bought a TL and now resent others being able to buy an Acura that drives, and handles, better than your car for $6,000 to $7,000.00 less. After all, one of the main reason you bought an Acura was to get better performance and handling. Now, the performance and handling has been surpassed by another Acura (of all things) that costs a lot less. As I told the Mercedes salesman, I bet some of the E-Class owners sure hate to see a C-Class pull up and park beside them.

There are several reports of C-Class owners being made to feel like second class citizens when they take their cars in for servicing; not by Mercedes employees, but by the E-Class owners that all also at the dealership at the time.

I have recently ordered a TSX. I told the salesman (he sells both Honda and Accura) that I had no idea what I wanted to buy, so he said that we would start at the bottom and work up. I started with a 4 cyl. Accord -- not enough horsepower and acceleration. I then drove a V-6 Accord. I liked it, but the front-end felt too heavy and the handling was not as crisp as I had expected (I could certainly outdrive the V-6 Accord on a curvy road with my Quad-4 Grand Am). I then drove the TSX, and then there was no need for me to drive the TL. And, as my wife said, "This is the first car that has said, 'Take me home'". Hopefully, we will be able to do that next week.

I don't expect to see the TSX win many converts from a TL -- and I would think that Acura would like to see the same. The two cars are very different, and they target different segments of the market. However, I do expect to see a lot of potential V-6 Accord buyers buying the TSX. Enjoy your TL. I will enjoy my TSX. As they used to say, "What is better, a Ford or a Chevy?"

 

Hey, another one... http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95009

Please put some input there, so I could move it to Cars & Bikes forum, too.

 

I drive a TSX and I think you're an complete retarded idiot. I've test drove the TL before I test drove the TSX before buying it, same quality leather and plastics used inside of the interior.

The TSX is quite more nimbler than the TL, while the TL has more power which soon can be fixed on the TSX. I also have a girlfriend who owns a E46 3 series, I've driven it numerous times before buying the TSX, and I must say that the TSX much more fun to drive.

BTW GL with aftermarket support with the American TL, I'll have fun with my choice of jackson/comptech superchargers, or cybernation turbo kits (which have taken the rsx over 450HP), and Hondata ECU.

 

Quoted for truth... The TSX is recommended by alot of Magazines.
The TL's handling is nothing to brag about either, its a great car with a great engine though.
But the TSX's purpose for existence was to handle corners, while having luxury amenties.
But anyways why bash on us TSX owners? We're all in the same Acura/Honda family, lets focus on bashing those overpriced BMW's and Mercedes' jk

 

Your point, while well taken, could have been made without namecalling--your credibility suffers as a result. The guy was just giving his opinion about the TSX.

 

Hes obviously spreading false negative criticism about our cars, I'm just calling him out.
This thread is .

 

Can't we all just get along??? After all, the cars live happily together on the same lot. No sibling rivalry.

 

You are insane....

TSX CHEAP!...hahaha

The interior is GREAT...everything about the car is great.....I dont see the TL getting a C&D 10 best do I?

go ahead and pay $6000 more for 270hp of Tourqe Steer (which I bet half the people dont even USED the full power range of the car) , DVD audio which is nothing right now, and....hmmm....NOTHING ELSE REALLY.


Don't get me wrong....i love the TL and if i had the extra $6000 I would have bought it myself.......but dont go bashing the TSX likes its a CIVIC when your car is just an overgrown TSX .......

 

I guess some (NOT ALL) TL owners are just childish.

I respect any HONDA or ACURA car, (from the Civic, Accord, Pilot, RSX, TSX, TL, NSX, MDX, RL) right down to the older models (Vigor, Legend, CL, Prelude)...

I guess the TL owners think they're too good for us.

You don't see the BMW owners bashing each other, One time this guy driving an M3 came up to my girlfriends 325i (which I was driving alone) and said "you have a nice car" (even though it wasn't mine).

You don't see the Impreza owners bickering each other...
You don't even see the I4 / V6 accords bashing each other...

 

Can't we all just be one big happy acura family? :ultraghey:

 

Oh ya.... .2 is actually twenty cents....not two cents

And it handles like a BMW.....have you ever even been in a BMW? you know thats the BIGGEST compliment you can give another car......

and 20mph and 35...your not making sense....everyone in the world knows the TSX is made to handle better than the TL.

TSX is a sports midsize
TL is a full Lux.

next we'll see you talking abotu how the RL kicks the RSX's ass hahahaha


:gheyfight:

 

But seriously, were all Acura owners, with that there comes a certain unique characteristic about us, we're the smart car owners that look for near perfect form, function, reliability, peace of mind, and practicality for a reasonable price.

 

Don't agree with you there. The TL costs more than the TSX, I would expect the materials to be better. And they are - the wood looks better, real aluminum is used, leather feels thicker, etc. But the one thing I notice is that the TSX is assembled more tightly.

 

Here is some interesting numbers and comments from Car and Driver about the TL and TSX's handling:

TSX:
"Handing responses are somewhat softer than in the others, primarily because the all-season Michelin Pilot HXs are chosen for ride smoothness and silence more than for athletic feats. On those passenger-comfort issues, the TSX excels. Skidpad grip measured 0.83 g with a reliable amount of understeer. On the road, you have the feeling of fleet-footed agility; the Acura is quick to change directions and has effortless control at any speed."

"The steering has a similar light-to-the-touch quickness, making the TSX feel alive and agile for urban maneuvers. At higher speeds, when straight down the road is the goal, the mood turns a little nervous; the path weaves in response to unseen forces.

"The TSX has a zesty eagerness about it, like the high-winding Acura Integra Type R of the later '90s. We can't stop grinning when we're in the cockpit. But there's much more here—this car tied with or topped all the others in 17 of the 22 rating categories. Call it accomplished, call it irresistible, call it the class of the less-than-30-large field."

Taken from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=5


TL:
"Hustled through the 300-foot skidpad, the TL managed to pull 0.81 g, which is less grip than that achieved by the G35 (0.87) and the 330i (0.83)."

"On our 10Best handling loop, where twisty roads abound, the TL couldn't attack curves with the same speed and vigor as the Infiniti and BMW, inspiring less confidence because of its heavier front-loaded nature."

"Moreover, the TL's power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering lacks the direct communication of the BMW's and Infiniti's, hampering a close relationship between the driver and the road. We found ourselves constantly adjusting the wheel through sweeping curves. The steering is weighted in a nice, light fashion, but its effort doesn't build progressively, and there's too much assist when what you want is direct feedback."

taken from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7597



Car and Driver said the TSX was reminiscent to the Integra Type-R which is definitely a prestigious compliment to any FWD car.
Also the TSX gets the same amount of 0.83g's on the skidpad as a 3 series BMW.

 

I like the TSX its a great car and look similar to the TL just alittle smaller and less power and i wouldn't say it's cheap.I'll bet owners of the TSX prob has less warr. issues.I have to take my TL in tomorrow cause the truck latch senser keeps setting my alarm off and getting tired of my phone ringing from Lo-Jack.The TSX was my second choice if i didnt get a good Interest rate on the TL.I give the TSX .

 

 

I believe the TSX will be reviewed by that emenent grey-haired establishment this fall. It was my understanding that it was to be reveiwed in September, but fell off their editorial calendar

 

 

well at least "west palm beach" didn't badmouth TSX's side-mirrors

 

I test drove both the TL and the TSX as I considered my three-year company car lease. I also considered the Volvo S60, VolvoS40 (the new one, not the visually crippled one that it replaces), the Infiniti G35, the Subaru lineup et al, the Audi A4 and A6, and the BMW 3-series. My firm rules out Mercedes as pretentious, though many of our lease deals would easily cover a baseline from that vendor. I didn't consider the Saab, having driven Saabs in a day when they were not a GM product, as I felt I couldn't handle the cultureshock. I eliminated the Subarus, stalwart little mules that they are because I find them visually offensive and the interiors ill-thought out and tasteless; having learned to drive on awd vehicles decades ago, I am not prey to the notion that awd=lotsa safety. The Volvos are tanks, and drive and feel like it - nice tanks, but tanks. After some hemming and hawing, I eliminated the BMW 3-series as being something of a cliche with a really ugly butt, then tossed out the A6 as anemic.

That got me to the TL and TSX; I was frankly prepared to lease the TL on the spot, but drove the TSX for a lark, and left with that instead. The difference in the monthly lease was $50, not a significant consideration for my firm. For me, the relative size in the city is an asset, not a liability, and the handling, as you note, is very tidy; I found the TL to handle like a "big car", not the feel I want. I found the interiors in the TSX to be more understated - NOT cheap - and the seats far, far more comfortable because of their narrowness and side bolstering. The four-cylinder lacks low-end torque, but if your test drive did not include freeway or mid-range travel, you missed the opportunity to understand this car in one of its best modes - midrange and highrange acceleration are very tidy, and that, combined with the handling, makes the car both very swift and very nimble on the road. I concluded that the TL would be a very comfortable car with substantial raw power tempered by handling suited to a sturdy sedan; the TSX, with its front-wheel drive carefully tempered to control understeer, is fun to drive.

A lot can be made out of the price differential between the two cars, although both are notable for providing a great deal of car for their respective price tags, a trick Acura achieves by simplifying their assembly line, which they do, in turn, by providing very few real options. This strategy is notably different from most other manufacturers, who make their money on the option packages, frequently increasing the cost of the car by 20% to, in some cases, 100% over the "base" model. However, both the TL and TSX are "deals" in their "zone"- the TL is clearly a more sedate car, the TSX a more sporty and nimble beast. The tradeoff of the four vs six has been debated in every review of the TSX out there, I believe, but I have found, in daily driving, that I miss my old v6 rarely -

I would suggest that part of Honda's success as a niche manufacturer is that NONE of their cars are "cheap" although they have designed cars that run the gamut of personality and cost.