TSX - TL - No comparison
09-20-2004, 08:14 AM
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TSX - TL - No comparison
I know I have seen several post in which folks wonder whether they should get the TSX or TL. I have a TSX loaner, 1 hour so far, and in that short time I can tell you there is NO comparison between the two cars. TL is hands-down superior - no doubt in my mind.
09-20-2004, 08:59 AM
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they're definitely in different classes.
Car & Driver's October test was in favor of the TSX, whereas the TL lost to the G35 earlier this year. We got our G35 for $29k, and I paid MSRP on my TL, so...
Car & Driver's October test was in favor of the TSX, whereas the TL lost to the G35 earlier this year. We got our G35 for $29k, and I paid MSRP on my TL, so...
09-20-2004, 09:15 AM
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And different missions, as I state in my TSX-TL comparo on A-TSX.com.
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13771
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13771
09-20-2004, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
Orange and Apple.
They are just different.
Different classes, different origins. different prices.
They are just different.
Different classes, different origins. different prices.
I agree with this.
Ppl should go A-TSX site and will see tons of ppl are not in favor of TL when they get a TL loaner.
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09-20-2004, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegeta1
Wouldn't that be like comparing a Civic to an Accord.
I don't think the base Honda lineup has a car that slots in in quite the same way that the TSX does in Acura's lineup.
09-20-2004, 02:54 PM
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Actually they are not very different at all since they both use the global midsize platform. The TSX is a european accord the TL is an american accord. It just shows how different chassis tuning can make significantly different cars. The TSX is lighter on its feet and a pleasure to drive. The TL feels heavier on its feet but it does have marked advantage in the power and engine noise department. Its handling is also very good but not as nimble as the TSX.
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Originally Posted by vtechbrain
Actually they are not very different at all since they both use the global midsize platform. The TSX is a european accord the TL is an american accord. It just shows how different chassis tuning can make significantly different cars. The TSX is lighter on its feet and a pleasure to drive. The TL feels heavier on its feet but it does have marked advantage in the power and engine noise department. Its handling is also very good but not as nimble as the TSX.
i think most of us have to admit that the TSX is very similar to the TL. don't get me worng i prefer the TL over the TSX anyday but from a car spec standpoint there are only a few things that differ. they are almost the same size surprisingly. but the main thing is the TSX is a 4-banger and i cannot see myself driving a car that size with just 4 cylinders. its rated at 200hp but its just doesn't have the torque.
09-20-2004, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vtechbrain
Actually they are not very different at all since they both use the global midsize platform. The TSX is a european accord the TL is an american accord. It just shows how different chassis tuning can make significantly different cars. The TSX is lighter on its feet and a pleasure to drive. The TL feels heavier on its feet but it does have marked advantage in the power and engine noise department. Its handling is also very good but not as nimble as the TSX.
Originally Posted by caball88
i think most of us have to admit that the TSX is very similar to the TL. don't get me worng i prefer the TL over the TSX anyday but from a car spec standpoint there are only a few things that differ. they are almost the same size surprisingly. but the main thing is the TSX is a 4-banger and i cannot see myself driving a car that size with just 4 cylinders. its rated at 200hp but its just doesn't have the torque.
I second this...I should move this thread to TSX forum... they will say something, too...
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What is different - for me - is origin & concept behind the 2 cars -
TSX -> Japan/Europe. TL -> USA.
Don't mean for this to offend anyone. But whe I see TSX is 100% Jpn thru and thru and TL is near 100% Ohio. Never mind the price difference. Thse decision was pretty easy - for me.
TSX -> Japan/Europe. TL -> USA.
Don't mean for this to offend anyone. But whe I see TSX is 100% Jpn thru and thru and TL is near 100% Ohio. Never mind the price difference. Thse decision was pretty easy - for me.
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
What is different - for me - is origin & concept behind the 2 cars -
TSX -> Japan/Europe. TL -> USA.
Don't mean for this to offend anyone. But whe I see TSX is 100% Jpn thru and thru and TL is near 100% Ohio. Never mind the price difference. Thse decision was pretty easy - for me.
TSX -> Japan/Europe. TL -> USA.
Don't mean for this to offend anyone. But whe I see TSX is 100% Jpn thru and thru and TL is near 100% Ohio. Never mind the price difference. Thse decision was pretty easy - for me.
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I too have been contemplating buying a TL and also looked at and drove a TSX.
I really liked the TSX but compared to the V6 power in the TL their is little comparison in my opinion.
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
I do realize that it would end up being a thousand or so more therefore being priced very close to a TL and stealing sales from the TL.
I really liked the TSX but compared to the V6 power in the TL their is little comparison in my opinion.
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
I do realize that it would end up being a thousand or so more therefore being priced very close to a TL and stealing sales from the TL.
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
I assume you are referring to build quality? Or perhaps handling? Just trying to understand your perspective.
Second: build quality, workmanship.
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
I assume you are referring to build quality? Or perhaps handling? Just trying to understand your perspective.
Second: build quality, workmanship.
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Originally Posted by Michael A
--snip--
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
--snip--
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
--snip--
09-20-2004, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
IMO - because that car is aimed at Euro/Japan market where peeps as not as obssessed about size & numbers of cylinders as the US.
But your opinions are not too harsh.Move to cars & bikes tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by blackjackman
First: styling/design (Not sure about this but I will not be surprised TL styling is done by US-based studio)
Second: build quality, workmanship.
Second: build quality, workmanship.
In my view, the TL looks like a lifter, and the TSX as a runner. Both athletic designs but with different concentrations.
Build quality is something that is more objective (at least more objective than styling). The TL is built fine to me, it does have a few more rattles than I expected, but from my readings on A-TSX it doesn't seem like the TSX is built like a vault either. Of course, your experience might vary.
Lastly, I believe the TSX will be more fun in the twisties, but the TL has that V6 thrust that puts a smile on your face...to each his/her own.
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
--snip--
Build quality is something that is more objective (at least more objective than styling). The TL is built fine to me, it does have a few more rattles than I expected, but from my readings on A-TSX it doesn't seem like the TSX is built like a vault either. Of course, your experience might vary
Build quality is something that is more objective (at least more objective than styling). The TL is built fine to me, it does have a few more rattles than I expected, but from my readings on A-TSX it doesn't seem like the TSX is built like a vault either. Of course, your experience might vary
some people dig German, some dig Jpn, some dig Swedish...etc
Build quality --- NOT about TL's vs TSX's , Ohio vs Sayama -- I look at verifiable facts
i.e Statistics/Ratings/Surveys which show in general Jpn-built cars have better reliability. That's all.
If fact my TSX is going in for a tranny replacement tomorrow. How's that for irony.
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Originally Posted by Michael A
I too have been contemplating buying a TL and also looked at and drove a TSX.
I really liked the TSX but compared to the V6 power in the TL their is little comparison in my opinion.
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
I do realize that it would end up being a thousand or so more therefore being priced very close to a TL and stealing sales from the TL.
I really liked the TSX but compared to the V6 power in the TL their is little comparison in my opinion.
What pisses me off is an Accord Sedan/Accord Coupe both have nice V6's why don't they put a 250HP V6 in the TSX ? I can't envision it not fitting.
I do realize that it would end up being a thousand or so more therefore being priced very close to a TL and stealing sales from the TL.
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Originally Posted by caball88
that would be a sales suicide for acura if they dropped a V6 into a TSX. it would canabalize the sales between the 2 cars. the people that would have to spend more money on the TL now spend less for the TSX. another problem is that it might also bump up the price of the TSX bringing it alot close to the TL. if the price difference was 3K between the 2 cars people might not want to buy the TSX anymore. the whole reason why acura offers the 2 cars is to provide a nice range of cars at different prices to get people shopping in different price brackets options.
It seems though that aside from the V6 power it appears that the TSX might actually be the prefered vehicle by most.
I would make an educated guess and say what might eventually happen in the next year or so is when SH AWD (from the new RL) is added to the TL the power will increases to a round 300hp (with variable cylinder displacement like the 2005 Accord) then a 250HP V6 TSX will make alot of sense.
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Originally Posted by caball88
that would be a sales suicide for acura if they dropped a V6 into a TSX. it would canabalize the sales between the 2 cars. the people that would have to spend more money on the TL now spend less for the TSX. another problem is that it might also bump up the price of the TSX bringing it alot close to the TL. if the price difference was 3K between the 2 cars people might not want to buy the TSX anymore. the whole reason why acura offers the 2 cars is to provide a nice range of cars at different prices to get people shopping in different price brackets options.
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Take the TSX around a sharp bend...
Then take the TL around the same sharp bend...
You will see a difference.
Here is some interesting numbers and comments from Car and Driver about the TL and TSX's handling:
TSX:
"Handing responses are somewhat softer than in the others, primarily because the all-season Michelin Pilot HXs are chosen for ride smoothness and silence more than for athletic feats. On those passenger-comfort issues, the TSX excels. Skidpad grip measured 0.83 g with a reliable amount of understeer. On the road, you have the feeling of fleet-footed agility; the Acura is quick to change directions and has effortless control at any speed."
"The steering has a similar light-to-the-touch quickness, making the TSX feel alive and agile for urban maneuvers. At higher speeds, when straight down the road is the goal, the mood turns a little nervous; the path weaves in response to unseen forces.
The TSX has a zesty eagerness about it, like the high-winding Acura Integra Type R of the later '90s. We can't stop grinning when we're in the cockpit. But there's much more here—this car tied with or topped all the others in 17 of the 22 rating categories. Call it accomplished, call it irresistible, call it the class of the less-than-30-large field."
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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=5
TL:
"Hustled through the 300-foot skidpad, the TL managed to pull 0.81 g, which is less grip than that achieved by the G35 (0.87) and the 330i (0.83)."
"On our 10Best handling loop, where twisty roads abound, the TL couldn't attack curves with the same speed and vigor as the Infiniti and BMW, inspiring less confidence because of its heavier front-loaded nature."
"Moreover, the TL's power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering lacks the direct communication of the BMW's and Infiniti's, hampering a close relationship between the driver and the road. We found ourselves constantly adjusting the wheel through sweeping curves. The steering is weighted in a nice, light fashion, but its effort doesn't build progressively, and there's too much assist when what you want is direct feedback."
taken from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7597
Car and Driver said the TSX handled like an Integra Type-R which is definitely a prestigious compliment to any FWD car.
Then take the TL around the same sharp bend...
You will see a difference.
Here is some interesting numbers and comments from Car and Driver about the TL and TSX's handling:
TSX:
"Handing responses are somewhat softer than in the others, primarily because the all-season Michelin Pilot HXs are chosen for ride smoothness and silence more than for athletic feats. On those passenger-comfort issues, the TSX excels. Skidpad grip measured 0.83 g with a reliable amount of understeer. On the road, you have the feeling of fleet-footed agility; the Acura is quick to change directions and has effortless control at any speed."
"The steering has a similar light-to-the-touch quickness, making the TSX feel alive and agile for urban maneuvers. At higher speeds, when straight down the road is the goal, the mood turns a little nervous; the path weaves in response to unseen forces.
The TSX has a zesty eagerness about it, like the high-winding Acura Integra Type R of the later '90s. We can't stop grinning when we're in the cockpit. But there's much more here—this car tied with or topped all the others in 17 of the 22 rating categories. Call it accomplished, call it irresistible, call it the class of the less-than-30-large field."
Taken from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=5
TL:
"Hustled through the 300-foot skidpad, the TL managed to pull 0.81 g, which is less grip than that achieved by the G35 (0.87) and the 330i (0.83)."
"On our 10Best handling loop, where twisty roads abound, the TL couldn't attack curves with the same speed and vigor as the Infiniti and BMW, inspiring less confidence because of its heavier front-loaded nature."
"Moreover, the TL's power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering lacks the direct communication of the BMW's and Infiniti's, hampering a close relationship between the driver and the road. We found ourselves constantly adjusting the wheel through sweeping curves. The steering is weighted in a nice, light fashion, but its effort doesn't build progressively, and there's too much assist when what you want is direct feedback."
taken from:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7597
Car and Driver said the TSX handled like an Integra Type-R which is definitely a prestigious compliment to any FWD car.
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Look at Nissan? No thanks.
The TL has won comparison tests too, since mag opinions mean so much to you.
The TL has won comparison tests too, since mag opinions mean so much to you.
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Consumer Reports will have the TSX in a near issue.
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Sure as hell won't find any high-dollar Toyotas there either.
Find them yourself, you obviously have plenty of time. Start with Motor Trend, then try Edmunds.
Find them yourself, you obviously have plenty of time. Start with Motor Trend, then try Edmunds.
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- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
- Motor Trend's Import Car of the Year
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
- One of AAA's Best Cars in the $35,000 - $40,000 Range (Tie)
- Playboy's Car of the Year
- Among the Top Ten in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
1991
- Motor Trend's Top Ten Import for Personal Luxury Cars
- Motor Trend's Auto Exotica Highest Ranking Car for Sports Coupes
SC 300
1997
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars (5th consecutive year)
1996
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1995
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1994
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1993
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
1992
- First in a Road & Track Coupe Comparison Test (Tie)
2004
- Highest Ranked Premium Luxury Car in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
SC 400/300
1996
- Best Premium Luxury Car in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
1994
- Among the Top Ten in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
1993
- Among the Top Ten in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
1992
- Among the Top Ten in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
SC 400
1993
- Winner of Car and Driver's Luxury Coupe Comparison Test
1992
- Motor Trend's Top Ten Import for Personal Luxury Cars
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
- Motor Trend's Import Car of the Year
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
- One of AAA's Best Cars in the $35,000 - $40,000 Range (Tie)
- Playboy's Car of the Year
- Among the Top Ten in Initial Quality (IQS) (J.D. Power and Associates)
1991
- Motor Trend's Top Ten Import for Personal Luxury Cars
- Motor Trend's Auto Exotica Highest Ranking Car for Sports Coupes
SC 300
1997
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars (5th consecutive year)
1996
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1995
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1994
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
1993
- One of Automobile Magazine's Top Ten All-Stars
- One of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars
1992
- First in a Road & Track Coupe Comparison Test (Tie)
I won't even bore you with the rest of the lineups wins unless you request it.
09-28-2004, 01:09 AM
#35
Drifting
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I won't even bore you with the rest of the lineups wins unless you request it.
While your points are valid, they are off the subject of the thread. Even though you were just responding.
09-28-2004, 01:14 AM
#36
Drifting
Originally Posted by 1995hoo
and the TSX is a big step up from the RSX, but the step from the TSX to the TL is not nearly as big, IMO.
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