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Old May 3, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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TSX strong debut

In its first full month of sales, the TSX sold 1,835 units Already ahead of target! Let's hope it's a strong seller. Only mean good things for an upcoming CLS.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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lets hope its not so honda stops trying to pass off average cars as sportsedans.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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lol, go test drive it. It's nothing like any honda.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by heyitsme
lets hope its not so honda stops trying to pass off average cars as sportsedans.


go test drive the stick, you'll be quite suprised
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Old May 3, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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looks sweet as hell in the blue. they had it when i got my X, not a chance i was gettin it though over the MDX.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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It should be able to steal some more sales from 325i, A4 1.8T, and even IS300.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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ok Ernie, where are you? let's hear it! :P
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Old May 3, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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lol, go test drive it. It's nothing like any honda.
When I went to my local Acura Dealer last week (Inskip), they didn't have any TSXs. None, nada, zip.

I don't know if they sold out of their initial allotment, or if they are trying to move some of the existing stock (03 CL and TL), before bringing in the TSX.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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Its a definite contender. I got to check it out one of these days.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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Re: TSX strong debut

Originally posted by Zapata
In its first full month of sales, the TSX sold 1,835 units Already ahead of target! Let's hope it's a strong seller. Only mean good things for an upcoming CLS.
What upcoming CLS?
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Old May 3, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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I still don't like tsx...but maybe I can go test drive
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Old May 3, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Re: Re: TSX strong debut

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What upcoming CLS?

oh hehe i don't know anything you do but the better acura/honda does the more money they can dump into the CL redesign
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Old May 3, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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go test drive the stick, you'll be quite suprised


why? is that magically going to propell me into 14's? i don't ask for much, only that a company's cars have a hierarchy when it come to performance. so the tsx being ~4k more than an rsx, i think i would like a tsx that can pass an rsx on the streets without a problem.
yes i know, saying that the tsx isn't a stellar car is a bad bad thing. its quite similiar to what they've done with the new si, capable handling, nice interior, looks fine, but a let down in accelertation.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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why? is that magically going to propell me into 14's? i don't ask for much, only that a company's cars have a hierarchy when it come to performance. so the tsx being ~4k more than an rsx, i think i would like a tsx that can pass an rsx on the streets without a problem.

yes i know, saying that the tsx isn't a stellar car is a bad bad thing. its quite similiar to what they've done with the new si, capable handling, nice interior, looks fine, but a let down in accelertation.
TSX isn't an RSX. The refinement in the TSX is unlike any other honda or Acura which is out on the market right now. I'm telling you I was absolutely FLOORED when sat inside, felt the materials, looked at the construction. It is a STEAL for the price they are asking.

You need to remember the majority of auto consumers aren't super concerned with paying more and getting more speed. Each car has a certain utility.

Look at BMW your average 3 series out accelerates your average 5 series. Does that mean the 5 series sucks.

RSX is a performance compact coupe. TSX is an luxury sports sedan. Don't try and compare the the two.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
TSX isn't an RSX. The refinement in the TSX is unlike any other honda or Acura which is out on the market right now. I'm telling you I was absolutely FLOORED when sat inside, felt the materials, looked at the construction. It is a STEAL for the price they are asking.

You need to remember the majority of auto consumers aren't super concerned with paying more and getting more speed. Each car has a certain utility.

Look at BMW your average 3 series out accelerates your average 5 series. Does that mean the 5 series sucks.

RSX is a performance compact coupe. TSX is an luxury sports sedan. Don't try and compare the the two.
Good point, Zap. If heyitsme holds to his "more expensive must be faster" heirarchy, then he would be disappointed with pretty much every car company on the planet.

You know, I just had a eureka moment...Ok, so everyone like heyitsme that's dissing the TSX as POS is into cars strickly for the speed (even though the TSX is as fast as its fastest competition)...nothing else matters...if it doesn't have a 14 sec quarter then it's garbage...wow...I'm so glad he doesn't represent the vast majority of consumers, that would suck.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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I'd like to go test drive a 6-speed but my manual tranny experience is very limited

btw, you can't knock a car's performance unless you've driven it yourself
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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I know that I am loving mine with every additional mile that I put on it. This 6MT is probably good for 6.6-6.8 by my seat of the pants gut feel But what really surprised me is the handling ... this thing handles on rails and pretty much will understeer if anything. Oh yeah ... one more thing ... MPG is already 26-28 for me on my first two tanks! But now that it is broken it that might change

By the way ... I love the look of the projector HID's, but I feel the lighted area is much less than my '01 CLS I have a feeling this is due to all the press on HID's so they have these pointing down (too far) to comply ... ugh. Oh well ... not something Acura can fix really. Where the projector HID's do hit is bright as daylight though
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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bottom line ... TSX has 2 doors too many ... end of story!
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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I honestly can't say this car is a STEAL.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Y2K3CL-S
bottom line ... TSX has 2 doors too many ... end of story!
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Y2K3CL-S
bottom line ... TSX has 2 doors too many ... end of story!
TWO too few Cylinders and TWO too many doors.

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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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the TSX us awesome


I drove one last week..the 6spd...

I can heel toe in it, perfectly, not many stock cars you can boast that about...

so smooth, great powerband all the way thru the rev range....
QUIET sunroof, unlike our cars...nicely done acura, i hope they sell a million of them...
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Old May 3, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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I took a test drive of the TSX earlier this week (friends with one of the salesman, he doesn't mind if I do test drives once in awhile for fun) ... Have to admit, the car is very nice inside. Definitely nicer than the CL/TL in terms of quality. The NAVI is really sweet even though it had trouble understanding some of the voice commands we threw at it (I was told it needs to learn your voice, maybe they do some sortof calibration when you buy the car) ...

The car has a ton of options, even a flip down LCD in the center roof area with a DVD player attached. (Was installed in the TSX we test drove) ... The engine sounds sweeter than an RSX too, when you hit redline the car growls kindof like how the CL/TL sounds while the RSX kindof sounds more like a 4 cyl, screaming as you approach redline and when you hit redline the entire dashboard shakes ... The TSX doesn't do that, thankfully.

The seats are very comfortable, a definite step up from RSX seats.. and seem to hold you pretty well, although we didn't get a chance to really push the car hard, so I don't know how well they hold you under those kindof conditions.

If you're all about performance bang for your buck with a little luxury, I think Infiniti is definitely the way to go (G35 Coupe!!), but I definitely like the direction Honda is taking with the TSX. I would have loved to see the 240hp 6 cyl in the TSX (if it would have fit), but it gives me high hopes that the 2004 TL will have as nice, if not a nicer interior ...

Price is pretty high on the TSX, and I don't know if I could justify spending $32K on it while I could get the Accord Coupe V6, or CL/TL for less.

In the end, I'm pretty impressed by the TSX, what it lacks in engine power it makes up for in refinement, handling, and interior quality ... The TSX would be sweet with some mods and maybe a turbo charger (I've seen a Turboed RSX that dyno'ed at 309 whp, 257 ft/lbs !!!)
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TSX isn't an RSX. The refinement in the TSX is unlike any other honda or Acura which is out on the market right now. I'm telling you I was absolutely FLOORED when sat inside, felt the materials, looked at the construction. It is a STEAL for the price they are asking.

You need to remember the majority of auto consumers aren't super concerned with paying more and getting more speed. Each car has a certain utility.

Look at BMW your average 3 series out accelerates your average 5 series. Does that mean the 5 series sucks.

RSX is a performance compact coupe. TSX is an luxury sports sedan. Don't try and compare the the two.
1st i never said it sucks, i like the interior of the car. a steal? no. a g35 compared to a 330i is 'closer' to the definition.

the i-6's in the 5-series are fuel economy versions for commuters, just like the rsx and tl have two versions. obviously if the tsx had two engines there would be nothing to talk about, but since acura hasn't noted otherwise i have to assume this is the performance engine.



Good point, Zap. If heyitsme holds to his "more expensive must be faster" heirarchy, then he would be disappointed with pretty much every car company on the planet.

You know, I just had a eureka moment...Ok, so everyone like heyitsme that's dissing the TSX as POS is into cars strickly for the speed (even though the TSX is as fast as its fastest competition)...nothing else matters...if it doesn't have a 14 sec quarter then it's garbage...wow...I'm so glad he doesn't represent the vast majority of consumers, that would suck.
leave it to a fan boy to get bent all outta shape over a car like i'm talking about his mother. i manage to read all the 'this cars the bestest evar' comments without busting a nut, i don't see how people would have trouble reading my comments. if everybody agreed on car forums it would be rediculous. is it that unresonable to ask for a new 27k 6-speed sportsedan to have more pull than an auto family sedan from the same company? i don't think so.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by heyitsme
1st i never said it sucks, i like the interior of the car. a steal? no. a g35 compared to a 330i is 'closer' to the definition.

the i-6's in the 5-series are fuel economy versions for commuters, just like the rsx and tl have two versions. obviously if the tsx had two engines there would be nothing to talk about, but since acura hasn't noted otherwise i have to assume this is the performance engine.
Well, there's always the possibility of a TSX Type-S ... Notice how the RSX gets the moniker, but the TSX hasn't yet? ... Perhaps, next year or the year after Honda will re-tune the TSX engine to put out more horsepower (or maybe drop in some sortof 6 cyl engine) to re-grab everyone's attention to the TSX ... Right now its a new model, no need for the Type-S just yet ... Of course this is all speculation right now!
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it already looks dated to me :shrugs:
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Old May 4, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by Astroboy
the TSX us awesome


I drove one last week..the 6spd...

I can heel toe in it, perfectly, not many stock cars you can boast that about...

this is the first thing i noticed!!!!! The gas pedal goes all the way down to the floor like the germans Me loves the setup. I hope they go this way on all new acuras.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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They need to stop passing off fwd cars as sporty cars. Make a real rwd car for once. They made the s2000!

I test drove it, and it pales in comparison to the is300 and any of the bmw 3 series, except for the slick shifter.

I agree, they need to sell less to give honda a message that it can't pass off mediocre cars.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by neoprufrok
They need to stop passing off fwd cars as sporty cars. Make a real rwd car for once. They made the s2000!

I test drove it, and it pales in comparison to the is300 and any of the bmw 3 series, except for the slick shifter.

I agree, they need to sell less to give honda a message that it can't pass off mediocre cars.

Well we'll have to disagree because for what you get in the car and the fit and finish the audi 1.8T, 32x series and is300 are in a distant 2nd.

1800 cars is pretty good. Don't hold your breath. NOt every car has to be the 3 series
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Old May 4, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by heyitsme
leave it to a fan boy to get bent all outta shape over a car like i'm talking about his mother. i manage to read all the 'this cars the bestest evar' comments without busting a nut, i don't see how people would have trouble reading my comments. if everybody agreed on car forums it would be rediculous. is it that unresonable to ask for a new 27k 6-speed sportsedan to have more pull than an auto family sedan from the same company? i don't think so.
To be a critic is fine. I'm all for that. But most of the comments made against the TSX are unfounded or just complaining about it not being something it wasn't meant to be in the first place. It's the hating that goes on because it doesn't have a 14sec quarter...NO car in that segment does. It would be different if it was the slowest car in the segment or horribly underpowered compared to it's competition...and that simply isn't the case. It's a fast car for the segment. What more do you want? And M3/S4 fighter? That's not what this car is about. This is a car designed to compete with the 325 and A4 1.8T. And I believe it does a decent job. It's like you have a prejudice against a car because you didn't like how many cylinders it has...no test drive needed, you've got the car's number. I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid. Spread your hate someplace else.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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I saw one coming up behind me on the LIE here in NYC last week and I thought "hey a new CL/TL !!!" but I was surprised when I got to see the sides and rear end ....I didnt like the styling....it is very average looking for an Acura....C'mon designers lets get busy !!!
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Old May 4, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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I'd say it's a hit with 1800 plus sales in the first month, they're only gonna do 15K a year. I saw it at the dealer and it's impressive. It must be the 4 door thing, otherwise you can get a new CL-S for about the same $$, maybe less.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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When I went to my local Acura Dealer last week (Inskip), they didn't have any TSXs. None, nada, zip.

I don't know if they sold out of their initial allotment, or if they are trying to move some of the existing stock (03 CL and TL), before bringing in the TSX.
Dude, I was at Inskip about a month ago, (actually April 1st) to pick up a wheel I was having repaired. I saw a car carrier with about 6 of those TSX's on it. All the Sales people were in the parking lot looking at these cars like they've never seen a new model before :wackit:. All six must have sold (or transferreed) if there are none on the lot at this point.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 03:21 AM
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well it looks like the first official numbers are out, at least the first i've seen, from autoweek.

2004 Acura TSX 6-speed
Engine 2.4-liter DOHC 4-cylinder
Horsepower 200
Torque 166 lb feet
0-60 mph 7.6 seconds
1/4 mile 15.9 seconds @ 90 mph
60-0 mph 126 feet
EPA Mileage 21 mpg city
29 mpg highway


wow, go acura.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 03:21 AM
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If you can't sell 15,000 units of a $25,000 car, you are an idiot. They'll sell it cause peple want a "luxury" badge but don't have the dough for a BMW, Lex or Benz.

Only few will be bought by people like us who know the car is an Accord overseas and will mod it accordingly. The new Accord ain't winning hearts over in Europe either.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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I saw a TSX at Mmphis Acura and the hood was way out of alignment. It had a large gap by the winsdield and slowly got smaller until you reached the headlight where it was very narrow. The rest of the car looked good and was much better looking than than the IS Lexus. Very modern looking and from the outside (locked) the interior looked elegant. If that sucker had a 6 cylinder in it would be awesome although I'm speculating; the 4 may be perfect since it's relatively small.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
If you can't sell 15,000 units of a $25,000 car, you are an idiot. They'll sell it cause peple want a "luxury" badge but don't have the dough for a BMW, Lex or Benz.

Only few will be bought by people like us who know the car is an Accord overseas and will mod it accordingly. The new Accord ain't winning hearts over in Europe either.

That's the exact market Acura will have by the balls. 15k a year will hold the car's value and keep Acura from having to heavily discount cars to get them off the lot.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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the TSX us awesome


I drove one last week..the 6spd...

I can heel toe in it, perfectly, not many stock cars you can boast that about...

so smooth, great powerband all the way thru the rev range....
QUIET sunroof, unlike our cars...nicely done acura, i hope they sell a million of them...

Exactly.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by heyitsme
well it looks like the first official numbers are out, at least the first i've seen, from autoweek.

2004 Acura TSX 6-speed
Engine 2.4-liter DOHC 4-cylinder
Horsepower 200
Torque 166 lb feet
0-60 mph 7.6 seconds
1/4 mile 15.9 seconds @ 90 mph
60-0 mph 126 feet
EPA Mileage 21 mpg city
29 mpg highway


wow, go acura.
Sounds like someone needs a tampon and a camaro.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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well my g/f is one of those 1835 units... Nice car indeed!

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