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Top Bikes @ Assen comparo chart

Interesting to see how well some of the 600's do, in comparison to the liter bikes... goes to show how important handling is. We are talking about bikes that run the 1/4 at high 120's vs. bikes that hit 140+ in the 1/4....

This is from the Sept 2004 Cycle World comparo, they are trying to find a bike that will beat the Kawasaki ZX10R... they couldn't...

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Ninja's always outdo the competition.
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sorry - it was Circuit de Catalunya in Spain, not Assen.....

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Originally Posted by Red-CL
Ninja's always outdo the competition.
not really... the R1's and GSXR's have been the class leaders until this new ZX10R...
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not really... the R1's and GSXR's have been the class leaders until this new ZX10R...

Obviously. There was no ninja in the 1000 class.

Wait until they decide to build a 1300 or another 750.
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
Obviously. There was no ninja in the 1000 class.

Wait until they decide to build a 1300 or another 750.
which bike dominated (or dominates) the 750 class? Ninja? I don't think so.

what about 600? Ninja? no.
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Originally Posted by srika
which bike dominated (or dominates) the 750 class? Ninja? I don't think so.

what about 600? Ninja? no.

Ninjas always dominated the 600 class overall. It took a hit when the r6 came out but a few revisions knocked the r6 right out of the box.

The 750 ninja hasn't been updated since the early to mid 90's. Like I said. If they do decide to build a new 750, it will stand alone.


Forgive me, I've always been a Ninja fanatic.
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
Ninjas always dominated the 600 class overall. It took a hit when the r6 came out but a few revisions knocked the r6 right out of the box.

The 750 ninja hasn't been updated since the early to mid 90's. Like I said. If they do decide to build a new 750, it will stand alone.

Forgive me, I've always been a Ninja fanatic.
hey I'm a Ninja fan too, but the facts remain - Ninjas have been outclassed by everything until the release of the ZX10R and ZX-636 - and it's great for Kawasaki, nice to see them in the limelight for once. I am talking about track numbers here, not sales numbers or even technical specifications...

Again I like Ninjas but they just haven't been at the top until recently... good for them.
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the ninja beat out the rest off the 600's because its 636cc compaired to rest at 599cc. what no busa or the cbr1100xx.
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Originally Posted by evilone
the ninja beat out the rest off the 600's because its 636cc compaired to rest at 599cc. what no busa or the cbr1100xx.
Busa and 1100xx are not racebikes... their numbers would have reflected that - but nonetheless it would have been interesting to see how they fared.

also, it was only 600, 750, and liter classes.
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yeah i know the 1100xx i just out of litter size but those shits are all wrong theres no zx7 either.
its 1/4mile time&speed 60-80mph(sec.) 80-100mph(sec.) and top speed
Aprilia
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
RSV Mille ('00) 10/00 10.58 @ 131.50 3.8 5.01 169.8
RSV Mille ('02) 10/02 10.71 @ 129.1 4.74 5.8 n/a
RSV Mille R ('02) 2/02 10.62 @ 132.49 3.37 3.67 166.9
RSV Mille ('03) 10/03 10.83 @ 128.8 4.28 5.55 n/a
RSV Mille R Factory ('04) 2/04 10.55 @ 133.3 3.8 4.26 n/a
RSV Tuono ('03) 8/03 10.91 @ 127.8 4 5.75 n/a
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BMW
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
R1100RS ('97) 2/98 n/a n/a n/a n/a
R1100S ('99) 2/00 11.94 @ 113.60 4.93 5.48 n/a
R1150R ('02) 10/02 12.31 @ 107.8 5.61 6.84 n/a
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motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
S3T Thunderbolt ('97) 2/98 12.22 @ 109.7 5.39 8.17 n/a
XB9R Firebolt ('02) 10/02 11.84 @ 112.5 4.94 5.6 n/a
XB12R Firebolt ('03) 12/03 11.43 @ 117.5 3.98 4.45 n/a
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Ducati
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
748 ('98) 8/98 11.46 @ 119.30 5.15 5.22 150.4
748R ('00) 8/00 10.95 @ 124.29 5.12 4.93 155
900SS ('98) 2/99 11.61 @ 114.45 5.24 5.73 143.3
SS1000 DS ('03) 12/03 11.40 @ 120.5 4.01 4.71 n/a
916 ('96) 12/96 10.87 @ 125.5 n/a n/a 159
916 ('97) 6/97, 12/97, 10/98, 12/98 10.77 @ 126.3 3.85 4.78 159
996 ('99) 4/99, 10/00 10.61 @ 130.15 5.35 5.1 162.3
998 ('02) 10/02 10.88 @ 127.9 3.96 4.65 n/a
999 ('03) 4/03, 10/03 10.29 @ 133.65 3.67 3.78 n/a
Monster S4 ('02) 10/02 11.17 @ 121.2 4.51 5.54 n/a
ST2 ('97) 2/98 12.39 @ 106.2 5.42 6.42 n/a
ST4 ('99) 2/00 11.03 @ 123.80 4.88 5.77 n/a
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Honda
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
599 ('04) 12/04 11.70 @ 114.6 5.32 6.64 n/a
CBR600F3 ('96) 12/96 11.28 @ 120.9 n/a n/a 154.1
CBR600F3 ('97) 4/97 11.30 @ 120.8 n/a n/a 152.3
CBR600F3 ('98) 8/98 11.32 @ 119.31 5.44 5.06 152.3
CBR600F4 ('99) 6/99, 12/99 10.88 @ 125.57 5.28 4.71 156.7
CBR600F4 ('00) 10/00 11.00 @ 124.65 5.95 5.75 156
CBR600F4i ('01) 6/01, 12/01 10.75 @ 127.09 5.24 4.07 157
CBR600RR )'03) 6/03 10.73 @ 129.7 4.23 4.28 162.2
CBR600RR ('04) 8/04 10.68 @ 128.5 4.26 4.66 n/a
CBR900RR ('96) 12/96 10.56 @ 130.0 n/a n/a 159.3
CBR900RR ('97) 10/97 10.59 @ 129.9 3.91 3.58 159
CBR900RR ('98) 6/98 10.54 @ 131.95 3.7 4.25 161.4
CBR929RR ('00) 6/00, 8/00, 12/01 10.31 @ 134.50 3.37 3.08 n/a
CBR954RR ('02) 6/02 10.26 @ 137.57 2.8 2.82 n/a
CBR954RR ('02) 8/02 10.23 @ 137.57 2.8 3.01 164
CBR1000RR ('04) 6/04 10.16 @ 142.1 3.09 2.96 175
CBR1100XX ('97) 2/97 10.43 @ 132.6 n/a n/a 178.5
CBR1100XX ('99) 8/99 10.40 @ 136.14 3.41 3.89 176.1
RC51 ('00) 10/00, 12/00 10.96 @ 129.38 4.94 5.34 163
RC51 ('02) 10/02 10.49 @ 132.7 4.23 4.71 n/a
RC51 ('03) 10/03, 12/03 10.49 @ 132.7 4.23 4.71 n/a
VFR750F ('97) 2/98 11.67 @ 115.07 5.31 4.97 n/a
VFR800FI ('98) 6/98, 2/00 11.14 @ 122.18 5.23 4.98 150.9
VFR800 ('02) 4/02 11.22 @ 119.80 5.26 5.82 n/a
CB900F ('02) 4/02 11.09 @ 121.77 3.68 4.02 n/a
VTR1000 ('97) 6/97, 12/97, 10/98 11.17 @ 124.9 2.78 4.6 151.2
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Kawasaki
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
ZX-6R ('97) 4/97 11.10 @ 123.5 n/a n/a 152.6
ZX-6R ('98) 8/98 10.97 @ 123.35 4.45 5.22 156
ZX-6R ('98) 12/98 10.97 @ 123.35 4.45 5.22 158.3
ZX-6R ('99) 6/99 10.70 @ 126.13 4.56 5.58 156.7
ZX-6R ('00) 10/00 11.07 @ 123.30 4.66 5.59 149
ZX-6R ('01) 6/02 10.93 @ 124.81 4.52 5.07 154
ZX-6R ('03) 6/03 10.67 @ 131.0 4.34 4.3 158.5
ZX-6R ('04) 8/04 10.50 @ 130.7 4.05 3.8 n/a
ZX-6RR ('03) 8/03 10.94 @ 127.3 4.76 4.56 n/a
ZX-6RR ('04) 8/04 10.78 @ 127.7 4.1 3.65 n/a
ZX-7R ('00) 6/00 10.92 @ 127.4 4.07 4.22 158.1
ZX-9R ('97) 10/97 10.38 @ 134.7 4.34 4.43 167
ZX-9R ('98) 6/98 9.99 @ 136.80 2.98 3.52 168.1
ZX-9R ('98) 12/98, 12/99 9.99 @ 136.80 2.98 3.52 170.9
ZX-9R ('00) 4/00, 8/00 10.06 @ 138.96 3.13 3.52 173.5
ZX-9R ('02) 8/02 10.19 @ 137.90 3.13 3.3 168
ZX-10R ('04) 6/04, 10/04 9.92 @ 147.4 2.72 2.67 186
Z1000 ('03) 8/03 10.73 @ 126.4 4.15 4.47 n/a
ZX-11 ('97) 2/97 10.25 @ 135.7 n/a n/a 175
ZX-12R ('01) 10/02 9.95 @ 144.40 n/a n/a 185.6
ZRX1100 ('99) 10/99 11.17 @ 119.69 4.18 4.62 n/a
ZRX1200 ('01) 8/02 n/a 3.83 5.16 n/a
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Laverda
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
750 Formula ('98) 2/99 11.45 @ 119.92 7.49 n/a 146.5
Ghost ('98) 4/98 12.89 @ 102.1 7.02 n/a 122.9
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Moto-Guzzi
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
V11 Sport ('02) 10/02 12.25 @ 112.1 5.36 5.4 n/a
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Suzuki
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
GSX-R600 ('97) 4/97, 12/97 11.09 @ 124.0 5.17 5.5 151.5
GSX-R600 ('98) 8/98 11.20 @ 123.17 4.44 4.77 150.7
GSX-R600 ('99) 6/99 11.15 @ 123.20 4.68 5.06 153.1
GSX-R600 ('00) 10/00 11.13 @ 122.79 5.27 5.77 148
GSX-R600 ('01) 2/01, 12/01 10.80 @ 125.40 5.33 5.84 157
GSX-R600 ('01) 6/02 10.74 @ 127.06 4.79 5.33 157
GSX-R600 ('03) 6/03 10.80 @ 127.8 5.36 6.51 158.8
GSX-R600 ('04) 6/04 10.58 @ 130.5 3.76 3.86 n/a
GSX-R600 ('04) 8/04, 10/04 10.65 @ 128.8 4.06 4.31 n/a
SV650S ('04) 12/04 12.02 @ 108.9 5.24 5.71 n/a
GSX-R750 ('96) 12/96, 12/97 10.54 @ 133.5 4.96 5.17 163.6
GSX-R750 ('98) 4/98 10.54 @ 131.0 n/a n/a 162.2
GSX-R750 ('98) 12/98 10.54 @ 131.0 4.46 4.57 160.9
GSX-R750 ('00) 8/00, 12/00 10.26 @ 135.6 4.11 4.34 172
GSX-R750 ('04) 8/04, 10/04 10.36 @ 135.4 3.67 3.86 n/a
RF900RV ('97) 2/98 11.05 @ 123.4 4.63 4.95 n/a
GSX-R1000 ('01) 6/01, 12/01 10.10 @ 141.70 2.73 2.79 179
GSX-R1000 ('02) 8/02 9.92 @ 144.96 2.83 3.01 177
GSX-R1000 ('03) 8/03, 12/03 10.09 @ 141.45 2.7 2.89 n/a
GSX-R1000 ('04) 6/04 9.96 @ 144.7 2.64 2.78 180
TL1000S ('97) 6/97 10.84 @ 128.4 2.99 4.67 n/a
TL1000R ('98) 10/98 10.76 @ 129.14 4.3 4.74 n/a
TL1000R ('98) 12/98, 6/00, 10/00 10.75 @ 130.21 4.3 4.74 163.8
SV1000S ('03) 8/03 10.82 @ 127.1 3.79 4.51 n/a
GSX-R1100 ('97) 10/97 10.45 @ 130.2 4.78 4.9 163
Bandit 1200S ('01) 8/02 n/a 4.08 6.3 n/a
GSX1300R Hayabusa ('99) 8/99, 12/99 9.97 @ 144.80 3.28 3.47 189.6
GSX1300R Hayabusa ('01) 10/02 10.237 @ 140.54 n/a n/a 183.9
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Triumph
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
TT600 ('00) 10/00 11.28 @ 125.00 5.47 5 151
TT600 ('01) 6/02 11.13 @ 121.43 4.59 5.31 146
Daytona 600 ('03) 12/03 11.22 @ 122.4 5.04 5.39 n/a
Daytona ('97) 8/97 10.80 @ 126.4 3.65 5.19 n/a
Daytona ('98) 6/98 10.70 @ 130.03 3.65 5.19 156.5
Daytona ('00) 6/00 10.70 @ 130.21 3.65 5.19 163.8
Daytona ('02) 2/02 10.61 @ 130.33 4.05 4.3 158.6
Speed Triple ('02) 10/02 11.04 @ 123.8 3.77 4.49 n/a
Speed Triple ('97) 8/97 11.71 @ 114.1 4.59 6.26 n/a
Sprint ST ('00) 2/00 11.16 @ 120.19 3.83 4.87 n/a
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Yamaha
motorcycle issue quarter mile
(sec. @ mph) 60-80mph
time (sec.) 80-100mph
time (sec.) top speed
(mph)
FZ6 ('04) 12/04 11.53 @ 117.4 5.42 5.99 n/a
YZF600R ('97) 2/97 11.48 @ 119.8 n/a n/a n/a
YZF600R ('97) 4/97 11.31 @ 118.9 n/a n/a 150.4
YZF600R ('98) 8/98 11.30 @ 119.70 4.94 5.13 151.4
YZF-R6 ('99) 6/99, 12/99 10.68 @ 128.17 4.61 4.78 157.3
YZF-R6 ('00) 10/00, 12/00 10.99 @ 125.24 5.06 5.49 153
YZF-R6 ('01) 6/01, 12/01 10.80 @ 128.04 4.36 4.45 157
YZF-R6 ('03) 6/03, 12/03 10.80 @ 127.8 4.46 5.22 158
YZF-R6 ('04) 8/04 10.68 @ 129.3 4.13 4.63 n/a
YZF1000R ('97) 10/97 10.60 @ 131.7 3.13 2.95 164
YZF1000R ('97) 12/97 10.56 @ 131.9 3.01 2.88 164.7
YZF-R1 ('98) 6/98, 12/98, 12/99 10.22 @ 140.15 3.13 3.19 165.8
YZF-R1 ('00) 8/00, 12/00, 12/01 10.26 @ 135.3 3.04 3.19 n/a
YZF-R1 ('02) 8/02 10.10 @ 141.75 2.79 2.97 169
YZF-R1 ('04) 6/04 9.93 @ 147.4 2.8 2.92 184
FZ1 ('01) 8/02 n/a 3.97 5.36 n/a
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Originally Posted by evilone
yeah i know the 1100xx i just out of litter size but those shits are all wrong theres no zx7 either.
the zx7r has (finally) been put out to pasture. the master bike competition generally doesn't include obsolete models.

not too much remains of the old 750 superbike class now - just the '04 gsx-r 750, I think.
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Originally Posted by srika
This is from the Sept 2004 Cycle World comparo, they are trying to find a bike that will beat the Kawasaki ZX10R... they couldn't...
I do think it is telling that the gsx-r 750 ran within a couple of tenths of the mighty zx-10r, though.

shows what a well tuned chassis and not-excessive power can do for lap times... (plus, the 750 has been around a while, so the test riders are probably more comfortable going fast on it versus a completely new bike like the 10.)
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Originally Posted by tankmonkey
I do think it is telling that the gsx-r 750 ran within a couple of tenths of the mighty zx-10r, though.

shows what a well tuned chassis and not-excessive power can do for lap times... (plus, the 750 has been around a while, so the test riders are probably more comfortable going fast on it versus a completely new bike like the 10.)
yep - that is pretty insane... that Gixxer 750 is pretty crazy...
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The GSXR 750 has been "The Bike"
I cant wait to get one.

Zx-10r is impressive. Best bike out, but its funny how a 750 is in a CLOSE 2nd.

GO GIXXER 750!
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Why didn't they test the Honda RC51?
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Why didn't they test the Honda RC51?
good question. maybe they only wanted one bike per brand, per class??

In any event, I would have liked to see how the RC51 would have done compared to the others...
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Originally Posted by tankmonkey
I do think it is telling that the gsx-r 750 ran within a couple of tenths of the mighty zx-10r, though.

shows what a well tuned chassis and not-excessive power can do for lap times... (plus, the 750 has been around a while, so the test riders are probably more comfortable going fast on it versus a completely new bike like the 10.)
i dont think that is the case these guy that test ride these bikes are good enough to compete at the pro level or once did some may even still. i dont think the factory bike makers are just gunna hand over the latest models for an average joe to rag on it threw a track. they are all acomplished riders,in saying that i dont think they took it easy on any bike. then ran them threw the paces. now in the litter bike class there has never been a year when they are so evenly matched as the 04s are. i read a lot of street bike mags my fav is road racer x. there is always great write ups on the bike as well as tech info on what the tech is for bikes. and the cover motogp like no towmorrow. if you havent read one and are a street bike enthuiest(sp?) i suggest picking one up.
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I should have also scanned the page where all the riders in the test (factory riders, pros, ex-pros, etc) talked about which bikes they liked. I think almost every one of them said the ZX10R is really fast but very tricky to ride at the limit... they said the 750 was very easy to ride at the limit, and get great times out of. Many of them preferred the 750 over the 10 based on this fact, even though the 10 was the "best" one...

Check out Sept '04 Cycle World for the full test, it's a great read...
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yea i used to buy cycle world but there is to much non sport bike stuff in there. i mean i can apreciate any motorcycle but there seem to only be a very limited supply of just sport bike mags. the only one i found that all bikes and no racing(dont mind the racing) is one from england. persnoaly i could care less about buell( i hate harleys and there stlying) but if your on two wheels i will ride with you. but sportbikes are just my pref. i just wish i could make my bike wera legal and still ride it on the street.
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Originally Posted by evilone
yea i used to buy cycle world but there is to much non sport bike stuff in there. i mean i can apreciate any motorcycle but there seem to only be a very limited supply of just sport bike mags. the only one i found that all bikes and no racing(dont mind the racing) is one from england. persnoaly i could care less about buell( i hate harleys and there stlying) but if your on two wheels i will ride with you. but sportbikes are just my pref. i just wish i could make my bike wera legal and still ride it on the street.


you need to pick up sport rider. its a bi-monthy publication. great read as well
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thanx dub ill have to check it out
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no , check cycle world. its better

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i have a few cycle world if there is a good write up on a certin bike or they do a run down on the new bikes ill pick it up. but other than that it gets about 30 sec. of attention befor i buy my road racerx.
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car & driver is good too, lol
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