just something thats been bothering me...just wanted to know wich would win....anyone?

 

it would be really close. gs400 0-60 is about 6.0 and a tls is about 6.2. if the driver of the gs is shit your gonna get him cuase those things weigh alot. ive raced the 430 and was able to beat it with my current set up.

 

Why does it bother you?

Driver aside & stock vs. stock the gs400 should win in any scenario.

 

i let my ex drive my TLs and i was on stock rims the Gs400 was on 20's. . She beat him 3 of the 4 races. . . she lost off the line it was the first time driving my car. . .not saying i could beat him, but i think if i was driving it would have been CLOSE!!! anyway just my experience

 

Anyone who even tries to compare a stock TLS vs stock GS400 is out of their mind. The GS400 is EXTREMELY fast. You'll NEVER be able to catch up with it. The 6.0 vs 6.2 times are just ain't right. My brother has a GS400 and i have a TLP (not comparing it to that) and I know someone who as a TLS. They raced once and my brother off the line to 70 - 80 was about 3 to 4 car lengths easy. I love driving the GS400. It's unbelievably fast.

I also forgot to mention $50,000 vs $31,000.

 

Im guessing you have never been in anything faster... Sure the GS is a quick car.. but never would i say its EXTREMELY fast......

 

I have raced a GS400 in my TL-S. My buddy drives his dad's GS, and I was able to hang with him to about 130 km/h. We raced from a dead stop, the TL inched up on him to 130 km/h, but I think their cars pulls harder than the TL's from 130-180 km/h cause he was up on me about 0.5-1 car length...

still the TL-S is just as fast, stock for stock that is.

 

The TL-S has a chance against a GS400 to the end of third gear at around 110 mph. I was browsing around at Clublexus.com and I saw that most GS400's have run high 14s and low 15s at the track. Seems to be the same with the TL-S around here.

Hope this helps.

 

GS400 is a quick car but certainly not extremely fast. Plus who cares the TLS is better looking anyway.

 

if im not mistaken the GS400 was the fastest 4 door car back when..maybe the XJR..

 

Im sorry... the TL is a good looking car but the GS is sexy.....

 

i have beaten a GS400 with my TL-S b4... but it was raining that day....

 

I raced a 99 GS400, and it was a close one..but the GS did win though when we reached up to 110mph...not by much. You are comparing V-8 300hp and 310lbs of torque..against a V-6 260hp and 232lbs of torque. I mean Yea its heavy..but it's only 200lbs heavier than our cars.

 

Na, there were faster 4dr cars in '98-'99. Like 540i, E55, C43, M3 sedan, XJR and there's probably more then I'm forgetting.

 

GS400 please. I mop up those cars all day. I'd love to prove it to anybody any day. Just let me know.

 

yeah no way the gs400 is the fastest. not even close. dont forget there are such cars as the ones DownUnder listed.

I think back then the E55 was one of the fastest sedans. That and the M5/M3 (older model was sedan).

 

hahaha! INTERESTING....i RACED a Gs400 here in houston....it had rims, exhaust and dont know what else but also...about 4 asian guys in the car but o well....any who we are on 59s im minding my own....see this CLEAN WHITE GS400....noticed them looking at my car...they took off....i was like ooo a gs400 wants to play...the v8 sound in that car is CRAZY! so we exit bellaire.....going about 45...i throw it into SS and into 2nd....we roll around that pace...and he takes off... i instantly hit it......and til about 90ish i had him by atleast a car if not more.....we go at this for a while....and outcomes are still the same...until some ass in a OLD ASS CAMRY or something tried to race us toobut slammed into a bus because he couldnt stop....idiot...we werent even racing him...o welll....the GS400's run like 14.5's.......fast for a big ass car....but they handle like shiet..... so my opinion....its a Drivers Race....i ran 14.6's in my TL................

 

It will be a good, close race but the GS will win. Edmunds has the lowest time I've seen 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, Motor Trend 5.7 seconds, I've seen 6 seconds before. The TL-S is a low-mid 6 second car so it will be a close race up to about 80mph and then the GS will really start pulling away (better gearing, bigger engine).

The GS 400 was the fastest auotmatic sedan you could buy until the Supercharged Jag XJR and then the E55.

I think a member named Ruf stated he beat a GS before.

 

Especially with that Lexus pearlized white.

As far as performance goes, I did see a stock GS400 run a 14.5 @ 97mph about 3 years ago and AFAIK they're governed at 155mph.

I ran one on the highway with my 02 Max (pre Cattman Y-pipe); I came up from behind him and passed by--he didnt want to be upstaged and rolled up to my rear 1/4 pan while I was rolling @ 85mph. I had a slight pull on him by 125mph but I figure he would have taken me if we had clearer road. That said, a TL-S should do as well as I did.

In a 1/4 mile drag race, my money would be on the GS4XX but it'd be a good race nonetheless.

 

Oldskool e55 all the way...

 

The GS400 was the fastest sedan on the road in 98. There's no way a stock TLS could keep up with a GS up to any speed. It's very fast relativel speaking to a big car that size.

 

No

 

You guys are comparing a V8 car to a V6. Stop doing that ! Compare it to a GS300. It would be more fair.

 

...but bkzjimmy wasnt wondering about the GS300!?!? Besides, a TLS would tear the GS300 a new one.

 

I had a 2000 GS400 before i got my 04 TL. Believe me, the GS will beat the 04TL and TL-S in most if not all scenarios. I raced many tl-s and never lost in my gs! On the freeway, you can't touch the GS w/ tl-s. The V8 pulls hard. Where the 04TL and TL-S will destroy the gs is in a track type race, where cornering is a concern. The suspension on the GS is extremely soft and comfortable but the car leans and rolls BAAAAAAD on the stock setup. However, it can be fixed easily w/ some new springs and shocks. My biggest complaint is the FWD in our beloved acura's. I miss the RWD and V8 in the GS but I love my new TL!! Plus i like the extra thickness to my wallet!! :blaze:

 

Unless there was an aftermarket turbo for the TL. I wouldn't waste my time going after that LEXUS beast.

 

If only our cars were RWD what numbers would we be getting...............

 

Thats what makes the TL-S wonderful...the V6 made by Honda...is more of a comparison to a V-8. But it aint faster than most of them..but its up there.

 

yea other cars need a V-8 to be fast.... im sure if there was a v-8 TLS forget about gs 400 430s

 

...and Lexus could have put the 2JZGTE motor (Supra Turbo motor) into the IS but they didnt.

 

they could of ....

 

whoever can launch their car best will win a short race. Beware, if you race past 60, he will reel you in.

 

[QUOTE=edgalang]Why does it bother you?

because the gs was one of my other options b4 i got my tl

 

My mom has a gs400 with 20" rims and i have a 04tl on 19" rims, they stay right next to each other in all aspects except for the front wheel drive spin right off the line. The gs400 was the fastest sedan in '98 when they first came out.

 

Maybe the fastest Lexus sedan, but not the fastest sedan in '98.

 

Off the top of my head, the older E55 (341hp/391lb-ft) would lay a hurtin' on the GS400.

 

And the 370HP '98 Jaguar XJR they were one of the fastest sedan back then.

 

Actually GS400 was fastest sedan in 98. Then the Jag i believe the following year beat it.

 

No, the XJR came out in '98 with a S/C 370HP V8, and then the E55 came later in '99.

 

A '98 Jaguar XJR ran a 5.0/13.5 in the 0-60/ 1/4 mile, respectively. Also, a '98 BMW 540i Sport ran 5.5/14.0 in the 0-60/ 1/4 mile. These times are both referenced from C&D.